Clarett to Cards' Practice Squad? - opinion by poster

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The guy's hurt, but his contract is nothing, and the Cards have a pretty nice waiver place (I think--I'm not 100% sure how this works).

If no one picks up Clarett (I think J-ville has an arguement for doing so), what's the arguement for not snagging Mo (who is a player that I don't even like that much), throwing him on the PS, and maybe moving him up if Anderson (a player I do like) blows or someone gets hurt?

I think that you could get Shipp production from Clarett for 10% of the price, and there's no arguing that the guy doesn't have a nose for the end zone--something that seemingly cannot be taught.
 

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kerouac9 said:
The guy's hurt, but his contract is nothing, and the Cards have a pretty nice waiver place (I think--I'm not 100% sure how this works).

If no one picks up Clarett (I think J-ville has an arguement for doing so), what's the arguement for not snagging Mo (who is a player that I don't even like that much), throwing him on the PS, and maybe moving him up if Anderson (a player I do like) blows or someone gets hurt?

I think that you could get Shipp production from Clarett for 10% of the price, and there's no arguing that the guy doesn't have a nose for the end zone--something that seemingly cannot be taught.

You assuming you can get Shipp production out of Maurice Clarrett is laughable at best. Your talking about a guy that hasent played a down of football in over 2 years and only played one year of Division 1 college football.

To say he has a nose for anything (much less an endzone) is downright dumb.

I pray we dont touch this idiot.
 

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How much more proof do you need that the dude just plain sucks and is never going to make anything of himself in football?

K9, this is insanity. He's been out of football for two years, he scored low in almost every category at the combine, he has huge red flags when it comes to intelligence and judgement, he was drafted by a good team that can usually use ANY running back in their system and make it work, yet he failed miserably and is now out of football.

Why would you want him on your team when you have good running backs like Arrington and Shipp to be happy about?
 

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kerouac9 said:
The guy's hurt, but his contract is nothing, and the Cards have a pretty nice waiver place (I think--I'm not 100% sure how this works).

If no one picks up Clarett (I think J-ville has an arguement for doing so), what's the arguement for not snagging Mo (who is a player that I don't even like that much), throwing him on the PS, and maybe moving him up if Anderson (a player I do like) blows or someone gets hurt?

I think that you could get Shipp production from Clarett for 10% of the price, and there's no arguing that the guy doesn't have a nose for the end zone--something that seemingly cannot be taught.

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kerouac9 said:
The guy's hurt, but his contract is nothing, and the Cards have a pretty nice waiver place (I think--I'm not 100% sure how this works).

If no one picks up Clarett (I think J-ville has an arguement for doing so), what's the arguement for not snagging Mo (who is a player that I don't even like that much), throwing him on the PS, and maybe moving him up if Anderson (a player I do like) blows or someone gets hurt?

I think that you could get Shipp production from Clarett for 10% of the price, and there's no arguing that the guy doesn't have a nose for the end zone--something that seemingly cannot be taught.

What's the argument for not picking up Clarett.......well, how about all his former teammates in Denver calling him an absolute dumb***proving that he is a handful in the locker room or would you prefer.....how about his overall attitude and the abrasiveness that he would bring to a team.......or how about, he really isn't anything to write home about skill wise.....or how about, nah.......it appears that you are looking for posts that you can stir up dirt with......I'll pass.
 
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What's the argument for not picking up Clarett.......well, how about all his former teammates in Denver calling him an absolute dumb***proving that he is a handful in the locker room or would you prefer.....how about his overall attitude and the abrasiveness that he would bring to a team.......or how about, he really isn't anything to write home about skill wise.....or how about, nah.......it appears that you are looking for posts that you can stir up dirt with......I'll pass.

Can you post some evidence of this? I haven't seen anything that points to him having been a bad guy with his teammates. A lot of people mentioned him being immature, or not knowing what it takes to be a professional, but "proving that he's a handful in the locker room"? I haven't heard it.

What I have heard is that he didn't want to play special teams. On the practice squad, he wouldn't have to. I'm surprised that there's such outcry over taking a one-year flier on a guy. Is Adam Bergen such a better prospect?
 

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To put him on the PS we would have to get him via waivers or sign him as a FA if no one picks him up, then cut him again hope no one puts in a waiver claim then sign him back to be on the PS.
 

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kerouac9 said:
Can you post some evidence of this? I haven't seen anything that points to him having been a bad guy with his teammates. A lot of people mentioned him being immature, or not knowing what it takes to be a professional, but "proving that he's a handful in the locker room"? I haven't heard it.
I have. I can't "post evidence," but it's been all over the radio airwaves here in Denver.
 
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Pariah said:
I have. I can't "post evidence," but it's been all over the radio airwaves here in Denver.

What have they been saying, specifically? I have a hard time believing that an injured rookie can be such a problem among a veteran lockerroom...

joe--I know the process, but if we can get him via waivers once, then we can get him through again. The important thing is making sure that his original contract is still in place, because I don't think he'd sign another no-bonus deal again...
 

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What have they been saying, specifically? I have a hard time believing that an injured rookie can be such a problem among a veteran lockerroom...
They've been saying that he's been bitching that he's not starting (that's right--he thinks he should be starting). They've been implying that he's not really hurt and just dogging it because he's pissed about his place on the team. And, you're right--they're saying he doesn't know what it takes to be a pro--and that that's a problem.
 

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Anyway, can you claim a guy off of waivers just to add him to your practice squad? Or, does any claim off waivers have to go to the active squad, and then clear waivers once again to make it to you PS?
 

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If find it curious that K9 is so down on Shipp, yet thinks Clarrett can make a contribution possibly. Shipp is better than Mau C will ever be, ever.
 

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Pariah said:
They've been saying that he's been bitching that he's not starting (that's right--he thinks he should be starting). They've been implying that he's not really hurt and just dogging it because he's pissed about his place on the team. And, you're right--they're saying he doesn't know what it takes to be a pro--and that that's a problem.

Rod Smith in particular has been the guy being quoted on Maurice and he hasn't said he's a bad guy, just that "you can't make the club from the tub". He said he'd made a point of explaining to Clarett that playing hurt is different here than in college, in college you're the star you get hurt you rest until you're healed, then you play. Here you're not the star, you get hurt, you rehab until you either get better, or prove you're too hurt compete.

Smith is a fairly quiet guy it was his public statements that made me decide Clarett probably really was dogging it.

ALso consider Shanahan used a pretty high pick on this kid, while there's no financial impact because he has no bonus. But when you consider guys drafted after Clarett including Orton, Marion Barber, Brandon Jacobs, Elton Brown, Ciatrick Fason, Stefan Lafors etc it's a pretty big admission by Shanahan to go ahead and cut Clarett. He's admitting I blew that pick.
 
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Pariah said:
They've been saying that he's been bitching that he's not starting (that's right--he thinks he should be starting). They've been implying that he's not really hurt and just dogging it because he's pissed about his place on the team. And, you're right--they're saying he doesn't know what it takes to be a pro--and that that's a problem.

That's the same stuff that I'd heard, but it's hardly the indictment that Spanky was posting. "Handful in the lockerroom"? I have no problem with him saying he should be starting. Is that any different than what Shipp's been telling the paper since the KC game? I criticize McCown for not saying the same thing. I want players who think they should be starting.

You'd have to claim him off waivers, cut him at the end of the preseason, and then claim him on the PS, yeah.

The opinion on the board seemed to be that it'd be all right if Green took a 7th round flier on Clarett in the draft. How is this any different, only you get him without a bonus?
 

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kerouac9 said:
That's the same stuff that I'd heard, but it's hardly the indictment that Spanky was posting. "Handful in the lockerroom"? I have no problem with him saying he should be starting. Is that any different than what Shipp's been telling the paper since the KC game? I criticize McCown for not saying the same thing. I want players who think they should be starting.
You'd have to claim him off waivers, cut him at the end of the preseason, and then claim him on the PS, yeah.

The opinion on the board seemed to be that it'd be all right if Green took a 7th round flier on Clarett in the draft. How is this any different, only you get him without a bonus?

Could you elaborate?
 

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kerouac9 said:
What have they been saying, specifically? I have a hard time believing that an injured rookie can be such a problem among a veteran lockerroom...

joe--I know the process, but if we can get him via waivers once, then we can get him through again. The important thing is making sure that his original contract is still in place, because I don't think he'd sign another no-bonus deal again...

Once you are cut......you have NO CONTRACT.......this is self evident isn't it?
 

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kerouac9 said:
You'd have to claim him off waivers, cut him at the end of the preseason, and then claim him on the PS, yeah.

No. You dont claim players to your PS.

You sign FA's who have cleared waivers to one year contracts to be on your PS.
 
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spanky1 said:
Go and read them yourself.

I don't have time to go find out if you're wrong on another of your claims. You asserted it; if you can't back it up, then I'll assume that you're making it up.

I'm sure citing Pro Football Talk isn't going out on a limb or anything.
 
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joeshmo said:
No. You dont claim players to your PS.

You sign FA's who have cleared waivers to one year contracts to be on your PS.

So, would Mo be a UFA or an RFA at the end of that year on the PS? I'm sorry if I'm a little confused on this.

Spanky--if you're a rookie and you're cut, and a team makes a waiver claim on you, you're still under your original contract--right, joe?
 
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