Clippers to announce decision tomorrow at 3 pm

[fordronken]

A last minute deal is possible, but I'm guessing they made their decision for Q when they called the press conference.

Do we have any confirmation from anywhere else that it's actually a press conference? Maybe we're hanging too much on some word a radio jockey decided to throw out. Maybe he just heard that they would decide by then and that they would "announce" their plans to the parties involved.

 

[George O'Brien]

Do we have any confirmation from anywhere else that it's actually a press conference? Maybe we're hanging too much on some word a radio jockey decided to throw out. Maybe he just heard that they would decide by then and that they would "announce" their plans to the parties involved.

And they could just change their minds and leave us twisting in the wind.

 

[Evil Ash]

Well its 3 PM and the Clippers have decided...












They want more time

 

[NJYAJ09]

wow... it might be a last minute decision by the clippers.

 

[fordronken]

wow... it might be a last minute decision by the clippers.

Knowing the Clippers, they probably just forgot.

 

[George O'Brien]

They're probably checking with the NBA office to find out if the really have to carry 12 guys.

 

[Biclops]

maybe there were going to announce the Kerry Kittle trade but had to delay it due to some complications

or maybe

they just got locked in the bathroom and cant get out

anything is possible with the Clippers

 

[elindholm]

LOL, they can't even tell time correctly.

Well, I guess we'll find out eventually.

 

[George O'Brien]

Probably just returned from Hawaii and forgot to change his watch.

 

[arthurracoon]

Since this came from Gambo, I'd say it's a safe bet we're getting Dampier.

Exactly. Gambo is just a Card-bashing idiot

 

[PhxGametime]

Okay there were 2 members here that posted about it, 1 said Wed. and other mentioned Thurs. - I just signed on and not sure if they matched yet but maybe conference is on Thurs.?

 

[devilalum]

Clippers to announce decision tomorrow at 3 pm

I guess if you leave this up long enough eventually it will be true.

 

[F-Dog]

I guess I'll dump my thoughts on the Clippers in this thread.


I don't see the point in holding the Suns hostage any longer--Divac and Ostertag are both gone, so I don't see how the Suns are hurt by waiting another day. Besides, the Clippers shouldn't be angry at other teams signing their RFAs anyway--the last thing they want is to chase those teams away and see their rookie-contract players sign the one-year qualifying offer.

The way I see it, there's a legitimate shot the Clips won't match, and the reason has to be Kerry Kittles--or rather, the draft picks the Nets might include with Kittles. Suns fans have already discovered how expensive it can be to offload an expiring contract, but if there's a luxury tax again this year, the Clips would save at least double Kittles' salary--$20m. Since the Nets have already sold a draft pick for $3m, I imagine they might be willing to sell the three picks they got from the Nets for over $10m; one of those picks is the Clippers' own, of course, which is unprotected in 2006.

I don't think the Clippers are thrilled with the idea of matching Q's offer, either. The contract itself is market value, but a lot of Q's value lies in his potential, and the Clips seem to prefer to put most of their money into sure things. Also, a big signing bonus makes the prospect of trading Q away much less appetizing, since the Clippers (or the Suns) have already paid a significant chunk of his future salary.


That said, my guess is that the Clips will match Q's offer at the deadline (unless they manage to really screw the Nets over).

 

[Evil Ash]

That said, my guess is that the Clips will match Q's offer at the deadline (unless they manage to really screw the Nets over).

Good guess

I still can't believe that the Clippers got Kittles for a 2nd rounder and cash or for that matter Sterling actually spent cash.

 

[devilalum]

Good guess

I still can't believe that the Clippers got Kittles for a 2nd rounder and cash or for that matter Sterling actually spent cash.

This deal saved Donald big bucks over signing Q. My guess is that's why it happened.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

I still can't believe that the Clippers got Kittles for a 2nd rounder and cash or for that matter Sterling actually spent cash.

Well, before you change your mind about Sterling, don't forget that getting Kittles instead of matching Q will save Sterling $32M+ over the next six years...

 

[Evil Ash]

This deal saved Donald big bucks over signing Q. My guess is that's why it happened.

True for the long run, but for the short run he spent $3 million just to make the trade plus whatever Kittles salary is this year.

 

[George O'Brien]

This deal saved Donald big bucks over signing Q. My guess is that's why it happened.

Apparently the deal includes cash, so he gets Kittles for the same price as Q without any long term committements.

Clearly the Nets are in "fire sale mode". This deal drops them to $46.3 million.

BTW, Kidd has nothing to complain about. It was at his insistence that they signed Mourning a year ago which is part of the reason they got into financial trouble. Next year the Nets will be under the cap and starting over. This season was a lost cause for them once K-Mart got that ridiculous contract.

 

[Joe Mama]

True for the long run, but for the short run he spent $3 million just to make the trade plus whatever Kittles salary is this year.

wasn't it to the New Jersey Nets who sent $3 million cash to the Clippers?

Joe Mama

 

[devilalum]

True for the long run, but for the short run he spent $3 million just to make the trade plus whatever Kittles salary is this year.

But rumor has it that Q's contract was front loaded and a huge chunk will have to be paid upon signing. If this is true it saves Donny big right now.

 

[devilalum]

BTW, Kidd has nothing to complain about. It was at his insistence that they signed Mourning a year ago which is part of the reason they got into financial trouble. Next year the Nets will be under the cap and starting over. This season was a lost cause for them once K-Mart got that ridiculous contract.

This is what happens when players play GM. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Hope Jomana is hiding the french fries.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

wasn't it to the New Jersey Nets who sent $3 million cash to the Clippers?

No - the deal was Kittles in exchange for a 2nd rounder and cash considerations (the $3M is pure speculation by everyone, BTW, but is probably accurate).

 

[George O'Brien]

It is not self evident that the Nets might not try to make another try at SAR now. In theory, they could offer a relatively low priced player like Williams and use their trade exemption. It gets them close enough to be a match.

Williams is strictly a backup type player, but he would be satisfied on the bench. SAR wouldn't be. At the same, time, this deal would reduce the Blazer's salary structure by $11.5 million - which is worth $23 million due to the Luxury tax. Since SAR would come off contract next summer, it would not hurt the Nets rebuilding plan but make them more competative this season.

 

[Griffin]

It is not self evident that the Nets might not try to make another try at SAR now. In theory, they could offer a relatively low priced player like Williams and use their trade exemption. It gets them close enough to be a match.

Williams is strictly a backup type player, but he would be satisfied on the bench. SAR wouldn't be. At the same, time, this deal would reduce the Blazer's salary structure by $11.5 million - which is worth $23 million due to the Luxury tax. Since SAR would come off contract next summer, it would not hurt the Nets rebuilding plan but make them more competative this season.

I'm guessing this is not allowed, although I won't say that for certain. Trade exceptions apparently cannot be used this way. I think the Nets can only use the exception to acquire a player who's salary is less or equal to the exception.

teams cannot combine this exception with the 115% plus $100,000 margin from the assigned player exception in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, while a $2 million player can be traded for a $2.4 million player using the assigned player exception, a team with a $1 million trade exception cannot combine the two together and trade their $2 million player for a $3.4 million player

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#68

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm guessing this is not allowed, although I won't say that for certain. Trade exceptions apparently cannot be used this way. I think the Nets can only use the exception to acquire a player who's salary is less or equal to the exception.

teams cannot combine this exception with the 115% plus $100,000 margin from the assigned player exception in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, while a $2 million player can be traded for a $2.4 million player using the assigned player exception, a team with a $1 million trade exception cannot combine the two together and trade their $2 million player for a $3.4 million player

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#68

I guess I'm wrong. However, I think it is still possible to do something in a multiplayer deal, although I'm not entirely sure how these work.