Coach Film Breakdown: Third and Pass

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In looking at this week’s tape, I wasn’t really interested in looking at drives, since there weren’t many on either side of the ball. What I was interested in looking at is how the Cards were able to contain the Tom Brady and the New England Patriots’ pass offense in clear passing situations. I was also interested in what New England was doing to put the clamps on a productive-if-not-prodigious passing offense that seemed to have favorable talent matchups for the Cardinals.

So I’m going to look at a handful of high pressure passing-down plays to see what happened and what went right (or wrong).

CARDS ON OFFENSE

1Q: 3-7-NE 39 (10:40) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb pass short middle to 85-E.Doucet to NE 27 for 12 yards (28-S.Gregory, 24-K.Arrington).
11 personnel, Bunch formation right, Fitz split left. Sherman’s in the backfield
Pats showing 2 safeties deep with man underneath, left safety shading well over to Fitz’s side. Three down linemen.
Inside slot WR motions wide right, corner follows.
Corners playing press technique.
New England rushes four.
NO ONE gets off the press. Nobody. Fitz is getting pushed around, and none of the receivers have any separation whatsoever. Fitz and Roberts are running verticals, Heap runs a skinny post.
Both safeties drop well deep, with the left safety shading over to Fitz’s side.
Doucet’s outlet route on a short cross, and Kolb delivers the ball.
Really good protection by the OL; Kolb delivers to Doucet in a TIGHT window.

2Q: 3-6-ARI 45 (6:11) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb left guard to ARI 48 for 3 yards (95-C.Jones). FUMBLES (95-C.Jones), RECOVERED by NE-27-T.Wilson at NE 48. 27-T.Wilson to NE 48 for no gain (63-L.Sendlein).
11 personnel with Fitz right and 2 WRs left. Sherman is on Kolb’s right, Heap lined up as an H-back on the left side.
New England has 2 down linemen, 1 safety deep. Roberts’ man is playing press technique, inside-outside coverage on Fitz with the outside man playing off-man coverage.
New England rushes four with one safety deep, press on the right receivers, zone from the two linebackers.
Fitz is legitimately double-covered on his eight-yard out. Neither of the WRs can get off the press.
Daryn Colledge allows immediate pressure up the middle, but Kolb niftily moves pass the rusher. Unfortunately, it’s just as Adam Snyder gives up on his man, sack, fumble.
There was no chance that this play was going for a first down, but you probably can’t drop the ball in that situation. Kolb was moving forward in the pocket.

2Q: 3-13-ARI 26 (3:46) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb pass short middle to 86-T.Heap to ARI 38 for 12 yards (54-D.Hightower).
11 formation with Fitz split right, Sherman on Kolb’s right, Heap on a narrow split, and Roberts and Doucet wide left.
Pats have four down linemen and two safeties deep. Corners playing trail technique (not quite off-man, not really press).
Three man rush.
Fitz gets triple coverage from safety, LB, and CB on the snap, running a “flag” route (show post at 10 yards, then break out and up).
Doucet and Roberts get pressed off the line of scrimmage. Heap gets a free release to the linebacker. Roberts, Doucet, and Heap all run comebacks at the sticks.
Heap does a good job coming back the ball, but can’t catch it and run.
Good protection, but they were only rushing three.

3Q: 3-5-NE 44 (10:59) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short right to 36-L.Stephens-Howling.
20 personnel with Roberts and LSH in the backfield. Fitz split wide left, Doucet and Roberts on the right.
New England has three down linemen and one safety deep. Eight men in the box. Fitz’s man is playing press technique, Roberts’ man is playing off man with inside leverage. There’s NO ONE deep on Fitz’s side of the field, but there’s a safety in the box on his side.
Interesting little Pistol formation, with Kolb a yard and a half in front of the backs.
Four man rush, and the box safety bails to play inside-out double coverage on Fitz.
Screen play. Roberts cracks back on Doucet’s man, but the OLB gets a free release into the backfield, and yet another Cardinal slip screen dies.

4Q: 3-6-ARI 26 (8:43) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb pass short middle to 85-E.Doucet to ARI 26 for no gain (96-J.Cunningham; 75-V.Wilfork). NE-75-V.Wilfork was injured during the play. shovel pass
11 personnel with Fitz split right, Doucet and Roberts left, Sherman(?) in the right backfield. Heap’s on a narrow split.
New England shows a stacked box with one safety deep on Fitz’s side, Fitz’s corner in press technique, nine men in the box.
Four man rush, but it’s an inside WR screen. It’s a stacked box, so it has no chance whatsoever. New England has six defenders lined up on the left side of the formation, so I guess you can see it has a chance, but the right side defenders are pointing at the line pre-snap.
Daryn Colledge makes the brave decision not to block anybody, but Adam Snyder gets a late lick in on Vince Wilfork.

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My take: I hate the design of this passing offense, especially in terms of what I saw from New England. Fitz doesn't have anyone right now who could've taken advantage of some pretty below-average New England corners, and that's a long-term problem.

I have no idea why teams aren't pressuring Kolb all the time.
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CARDS ON DEFENSE

2Q: 3-9-NE 49 (14:53) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short right to 85-B.Lloyd.
New England lines up in 11 personnel with Woodhead(?) in the backfield on Brady’s right, Gronk on the left.
Cards have 1 down lineman (Dockett), 2 safeties deep. All three corners are playing press technique, with Gay on Welker in the slot.
Four man rush with man behind. Cover-2. Great coverage across the board. Brady delivers the ball to Lloyd (covered by Peterson) just as Gronk comes open in the middle of the field.
Campbell starts the play in a two-point stance. He’s such a monster.
Awesome coverage by Peterson. Brady wasn’t under great pressure here.

2Q: 3-10-NE 10 (2:00) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass deep left to 83-W.Welker ran ob at NE 35 for 25 yards. NE 83-Welker 558th career reception, franchise record (Troy Brown).

New England runs 11 personnel with Gronk backfield left, Woodhead right, and Welker flexing into the slot left.
Cards have two down linemen, two deep safeties. Peterson and Gay are playing very, very off-man. Looks like a cover-4 before the snap, then Wilson drops down and Rhodes drops back.
Four man rush with zone underneath and one safety deep.
Great play design on the left side with the outside receiver going vertical drawing the safety over the top, and the slot receiver running a deep flag route under the outside corner.
Brady’s OL buys him enough time for the play to develop, and Welker gets a record.

3Q: 3-10-ARI 33 (13:03) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to 83-W.Welker.
Pats have 11 personnel with Gronk left with Welker in the slot, Edelman split wide left, and Lloyd on the right.
Cards have 2 down linemen, 2 deep safeties. Peterson’s playing press on Llyod, Flemming is off-man, and Gay is playing trail technique with inside leverage.
Cards show blitz with 6 men on the line at the snap. Then Peterson shows blitz from the outside and Wilson rotates over to Lloyd’s side. I have no idea what’s going on.
Cards have a 4 man rush with 3 coming from the right side of the center, 3-deep coverage behind.
Washington plays great trail technique on Gronkowski. William Gay continues to make Wes Welker sad.

4Q: 3-12-ARI 18 (2:49) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 11-J.Edelman to ARI 5 for 13 yards (23-J.Fleming)
New Engalnd in 11 personnel with Welker on the left, Edeleman in the backfield, and Lloyd and Gronk on the right. Weird personnel arrangement that I’m not sure I got right.
Cards have three down linemen, two deep safeties. Both corners are playing off-man, Gay in the slot playing trail technique on Welker(?).
Four-man rush with Dockett on an inside stunt. Cards play Cover-4 with man underneath.
This is the same route concept that New England ran late in the 2nd quarter above, and it’s executed just as well here. This time Edelman comes out of the backfield into the flag route behind Welker’s vertical route.

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My Take: I like the way that Josh McDaniels draws up plays. Our defense just matched up great with these guys. It'd be interesting to know what would happen if the Pats actually had Hernandez for the whole game, because New England is a matchup nightmare when he's on the field. But our guys hung tough.
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As always, if you have specific plays or moments that you want to have looked at, please let me know. It's easiest if you can give a play time for me to locate it on the film. No, I still don't know which plays Michael Floyd was in the game.
 

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Heap catch, I think was 1:28 end of 3rd Q
the one he got the personal foul on
what was lined there? since Kolb had to get to his right before he passed to Heap
 
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Heap catch, I think was 1:28 end of 3rd Q
the one he got the personal foul on
what was lined there? since Kolb had to get to his right before he passed to Heap

I think this is the play you're talking about:

3Q 2nd and 18 NE28 (1:31) - (Shotgun) Kolb pass short right to T. Heap pushed OB at NE44 for 28 yard (S. Gregory) [B. Spikes]. Penalty on NE-B.Spikes, Roughing the Passer, declined. PENALTY on NE-S. Gregory, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at NE 44
  • Cards in 11 personnel with Fitz in the slot with Roberts on the outside right, Doucet(?) split wide left, Heap H-back right, and Ryan Williams on Kolb's left.
  • New England has two safeties deep, four down linemen. Corners playing trail technique.
  • Four man Rush, three wideouts get free release. Cover-1 with bracket coverage on FItz in the slot.
  • Heap stays in to block off the snap, then releases the rusher to Massie and floats into the right flat, where he's all alone.
  • Roberts runs a 10-yard out, Fitz runs a 15-yard in, Doucet runs an out at the same depth.
  • Very nice catch-and-run by Heap from the space vacated by Doucet and Fitz.
  • Daryn College gets beat by the DT that isn't Wilfork. Embarrassing, but Kolb slides rig and steps up in the pocket. Sendlien holds off Wilfork, but he doesn't seem that interested in rushing the passer.
  • Adam Snyder does a nasty cut-block from behind on Wilfork at the end of the play. He might not be good in pass pro, but he's a real ****** to play against.
 

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thanks K9, I love reading this stuff
 
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I continue to be a little mystified that teams aren't putting more pressure on Kolb in these passing situations, especially when Fitz isn't being productive.

I think the feeling is that the offensive line is bad enough that opposing defensive coordinators believe that they can get pressure by only rushing four. That's kind of been the case, but for the last game-plus, Kolb's looked largely comfortable back there.

I wonder if that's going to change against Philly. If the Eagles think that Nmandi or DRC can contain Fitz without dedicated extra help (which clearly the Pats did not believe), maybe they'll send more people after Kolb.
 

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Maybe it's due to the lack of really strong pressure as you say, but Kolb definitely looks much more comfortable back there. I venture to say few people thought he would step forward in the pocket with any regularity, myself included
 
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Maybe it's due to the lack of really strong pressure as you say, but Kolb definitely looks much more comfortable back there. I venture to say few people thought he would step forward in the pocket with any regularity, myself included

It's really weird. Also, the Seattle DL obliterated a semi-talented Dallas unit this weekend. I know that it was at CenuryLink, but this offensive line has held up beyond the wildest dreams of pretty much everyone.

Run blocking has been bad. Maybe tomorrow I'll take a look at some run plays and see what went wrong for both Beanie and Ryan Williams. If anyone has some favorites, let me know.

The best way to locate plays for me is to use the official drive chart from NFL.com. This is the link to Sunday's game: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20120...#menu=gamepass&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
 

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What percentage of plays was Larry completely bracketed? Doubled, tripled, etc.
 

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oh yeah, I forgot.... would you please break down the RW fumble play?


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3Q incomplete to LSH

I am guessing that was the screen pass Kolb short armed

from the replay, that play looked like it was a first down easy, 20+ probably and maybe a TD

What does the upstairs film look like?
 
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What percentage of plays was Larry completely bracketed? Doubled, tripled, etc.

I'm glad you asked. My honest answer: I have no idea. And I'm not going to find out, because that would require me to watch every one of Kolb's pass attempts, attempts voided by penalty, and sacks, then count the number of times that Larry looks like he's covered, then divide those two numbers together.

I'm not going to do that. What I will say is that pretty much every play that I looked at in this game chart had Fitz with multiple players responsible for keeping him locked up. Based on that, I'll say 100%.

I'm more concerned about Roberts and Doucet not being able to get off press coverage against fairly pedestrian secondary.
 
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3Q incomplete to LSH

I am guessing that was the screen pass Kolb short armed

from the replay, that play looked like it was a first down easy, 20+ probably and maybe a TD

What does the upstairs film look like?

Yeah, the ball ends up at Hyphen's feet.

The Cards were facing the end zone camera on that series, so I can't really tell what's going on in front of the offensive linemen. The New England Patriots defense are so quick laterally and disciplined that I don't really see it working.
 

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The Cardinals have to start moving Fitzgerald around more and designing plays to get him the ball.
 

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The Cardinals have to start moving Fitzgerald around more and designing plays to get him the ball.

Bull. If we win it 100% irrelevant how much Fitz touches the ball!
 

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A thought on why the Pats were bringing such little pressure on Kolb.

Yes, blitzing on Kolb has yielded big time results in negative plays and potential turnovers, but by playing safeties deep and using their interior players to stuff the run rather than blitz it forces the Cards to sustain long drives, something Kolb has historically been horrible at. Last year Kolb relied pretty heavily on big plays for his TDs, especially in terms of YAC, of his 9 TD passes in 2011 6 of them were for 45 yards or more.

And really, defensively it went pretty well for them. A blocked punt and an INT gave the Cards 10 of their 20 points. We averaged 5.3 yards through the air and 3.2 on the ground. If you knew before the game that those would be the Cardinals offensive stats then it would be a safe bet that we lost by 20. Our special teams and defense foiled a very good defensive effort on their part.
 
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In the Eagle game, I'm guessing that on our first passing down we'll be throwing to Larry, and I'm guessing that the Eagles will be expecting that. Just hope we don't force it. Naturally, I know we have to get LF involved, but hope we're smart about it.
 
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The Cardinals have to start moving Fitzgerald around more and designing plays to get him the ball.

I don't usually agree with Shane, but I agree with him here. Why should this be the case of necessity? Clearly there isn't a strong correlation between Fitz's performance and the rest of the offense's. I'm sure that Fitz would prefer to have more catches, and so would his fantasy owners, but if Fitz can't beat double-coverage, maybe he's not as good as some of the people here are saying. :shrug:

I'm only saying that last thing half-seriously. Fitz was by far the #1 target on INTs last year. You can't throw Fitz open, and he's just not getting the separation right now.
 

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Bull. If we win it 100% irrelevant how much Fitz touches the ball!

If that is truely the thought process of this team, then you trade him. I hate this sort of mentality where as long as the outcome is favorable, why care what happend throughout the process. How anyone can be ok with the performace of our offense so far and coincidently it's inability to get the ball ot it's best (and most expensive) weapon is absolutely beyond me.

"But we are 2-0."

That is the "bull". This league is about constant improvement, and to say that we should be content with our offensive play because we have lucked into a 2-0 start is essentially sticking your head in the sand. There is no possibility of any long term success for this team with how they are currently using Larry Fitzgerald. If you don't need him to win, fine, trade him and use that money on someone else who can better this team.

"But he is the only weapon and teams are doubling him."

More bull. Smart teams find ways to get the ball into the hands of their best players. Larry Fitzgerald has 5 catches for 67 yards over two games. That is rediculous. AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Percy Harvin, and Vincent Jackson are all in similar circumstance as far as being the primary receiving threat on their respective teams and their offenses manage to get them the ball. Now, I am not saying we need to force the ball when Fitz is being doubled (and nor do these teams w/ the exception of Detroit), but what these teams are able to do and what we fail to do is come up with ways to get their receivers in one on one matchups. We have at times tried to do this, but never with very much consistency. You motion him out of the backfield (which we do), put him inside in the slot in two and three WR packages to one side, and design rub routes where he can navigate through traffic to gain seperation. I understand we have done this, but again, it needs to be a more consistent effort to do so or we will just have the most expensive decoy in the entire NFL.
 
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I don't usually agree with Shane, but I agree with him here. Why should this be the case of necessity? Clearly there isn't a strong correlation between Fitz's performance and the rest of the offense's. I'm sure that Fitz would prefer to have more catches, and so would his fantasy owners, but if Fitz can't beat double-coverage, maybe he's not as good as some of the people here are saying. :shrug:

I'm only saying that last thing half-seriously. Fitz was by far the #1 target on INTs last year. You can't throw Fitz open, and he's just not getting the separation right now.

Really? I am pretty sure there is a substantial correlation between the two. The Arizona Cardinals are the 30th ranked total offense in the NFL as well as the 30th ranked pass offense in the NFL with Larry Fitzgerald being ranked 96th in the NFL in yards and tied for 103rd in catches. Seems like a correlation to me, if we don't get Larry Fitzgerald the ball, our offense is one of the worst in the NFL.
 
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Really? I am pretty sure there is a substantial correlation between the two. The Arizona Cardinals are the 30th ranked total offense in the NFL as well as the 30th ranked pass offense in the NFL with Larry Fitzgerald being ranked 96th in the NFL in yards and tied for 103rd in catches. Seems like a correlation to me, if we don't get Larry Fitzgerald the ball, our offense is one of the worst in the NFL.

And yet the Cards are tied for 1st in the win/loss column. Yes, if we were getting outscored by opposing offenses, I'd agree with you. Fitz was in the slot on one of the plays that I charted here, and he still was triple-covered. There's just nothing you can do to break him free in those situations.

Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Andre Johnson are all guys who are able to use elite speed to put a gap between a corner in press coverage and a safety who's already in his backpedal. Fitz doesn't have that ability. Bowe and Harvin are their teams primary receiving targets, but aren't elite players that get attention every down. Harvin in particular has elite short-area quickness and change of direction ability that allows Minnesota to deliver him the ball on a quick slant.

Watching the offense against Seattle, Fitz wasn't able to break free of press coverage, and so the Seahawks didn't need to dedicate a second defender to him. Against New England, Belichick decided that Fitz wasn't going to get off, and that our secondary targets would have to be able to beat man coverage.

In this week's game, Heap found himself in a favorable matchup with Donta Hightower frequently enough to help move the football when it counted. Now he's injured.

Our offense being the worst in the NFL is a concern, but it's not a concern because Fitz isn't getting catches. It's a concern because Doucet and Roberts weren't able to get free of opposing defenders in single coverage. It's a concern because Ryan Williams and (to a lesser extent) Beanie Wells weren't able to take advantage of New England having only seven men in the box. Once we're able to win in those situations, Fitz is going to find himself having a little more room.

As long as we're not winning those situations, Fitz has to make more room for himself, and that's not happening right now.
 

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And yet the Cards are tied for 1st in the win/loss column. Yes, if we were getting outscored by opposing offenses, I'd agree with you. Fitz was in the slot on one of the plays that I charted here, and he still was triple-covered. There's just nothing you can do to break him free in those situations.

Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Andre Johnson are all guys who are able to use elite speed to put a gap between a corner in press coverage and a safety who's already in his backpedal. Fitz doesn't have that ability. Bowe and Harvin are their teams primary receiving targets, but aren't elite players that get attention every down. Harvin in particular has elite short-area quickness and change of direction ability that allows Minnesota to deliver him the ball on a quick slant.

Watching the offense against Seattle, Fitz wasn't able to break free of press coverage, and so the Seahawks didn't need to dedicate a second defender to him. Against New England, Belichick decided that Fitz wasn't going to get off, and that our secondary targets would have to be able to beat man coverage.

In this week's game, Heap found himself in a favorable matchup with Donta Hightower frequently enough to help move the football when it counted. Now he's injured.

Our offense being the worst in the NFL is a concern, but it's not a concern because Fitz isn't getting catches. It's a concern because Doucet and Roberts weren't able to get free of opposing defenders in single coverage. It's a concern because Ryan Williams and (to a lesser extent) Beanie Wells weren't able to take advantage of New England having only seven men in the box. Once we're able to win in those situations, Fitz is going to find himself having a little more room.

As long as we're not winning those situations, Fitz has to make more room for himself, and that's not happening right now.

And that is where we disagree. I believe smart and innovative coordinators scheme ways to get players free or design plays where those coverages are exploited. To say this falls on Roberts and Doucet is true to a point, but where the team has then failed is in acquiring a WR who CAN win one on one matchups. Once again this team reaps the consequences of comprising a roster similarly skilled WRs. I have pointed out several times the need for a deep threat WR on this team due to Fitzgeralds lack of deep speed yet most have chosen to declare Fitzgerald as that deep threat and so here we are. God help us if Floyd's issue is an inability to get seperation down the field because then we have just wasted another draft pick because we will still have the same problems on offense.
 
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And that is where we disagree. I believe smart and innovative coordinators scheme ways to get players free or design plays where those coverages are exploited. To say this falls on Roberts and Doucet is true to a point, but where the team has then failed is in acquiring a WR who CAN win one on one matchups. Once again this team reaps the consequences of comprising a roster similarly skilled WRs. I have pointed out several times the need for a deep threat WR on this team due to Fitzgeralds lack of deep speed yet most have chosen to declare Fitzgerald as that deep threat and so here we are. God help us if Floyd's issue is an inability to get seperation down the field because then we have just wasted another draft pick because we will still have the same problems on offense.

You won't get any argument from me that our offensive scheme is innovative. But you don't need a speed receiver to prevent teams from keying on Fitz. You can do it with, say, a tight end with speed. That's what happened with Heap on Sunday. One of the reasons that I needle Russ about his boyfriend Rob "Tinky Winky Twinkle Toes Taffy Hamstring Tall and Handsome Tickle Fingers" Housler* is because he should be the guy now offering that opportunity. But he not because he's not very good.

If the Cards get down by more than two scores or up by more than two scores, I think you'll see the offense willing to take some chances to get Fitz the ball when he appears more covered. As I said, Fitz was the #1 target on INTs in the entire NFL last year. While the offense is happy to take three to five yards at a time in the passing game, there's no reason to take those chances.

* This is not intended to start a flame war. If Russ doesn't like this, I'll take it out. I have great respect for Russ Smith as a poster, and I hope that he has some respect for me.
 

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One of the reasons that I needle Russ about his boyfriend Rob "Tinky Winky Twinkle Toes Taffy Hamstring Tall and Handsome Tickle Fingers" Housler* is because he should be the guy now offering that opportunity. But he not because he's not very good.

If the Cards get down by more than two scores or up by more than two scores, I think you'll see the offense willing to take some chances to get Fitz the ball when he appears more covered. As I said, Fitz was the #1 target on INTs in the entire NFL last year. While the offense is happy to take three to five yards at a time in the passing game, there's no reason to take those chances.

* This is not intended to start a flame war. If Russ doesn't like this, I'll take it out. I have great respect for Russ Smith as a poster, and I hope that he has some respect for me.

lol... you just throw out a Russ' boyfriend blast and then say "i hope he has some respect for me"? that's high comedy there. why not just NOT say it at all and show Russ the respect you hope he has for you?

to quote John Stewart from last night... "this is like joking to your buddy: You're mom's a *****... just kidding, just kidding... but she really does sleep with dude's for money."
 

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