Coach Wis-- No decision on QB yet

[CarterAZ]

“I learned from Bill Cowher that you don’t make an emotional decision based on one half of football"

That is a great quote, and if nothing else Whis is really good at not backing himself into a corner.

But IMHO, if you look at that one half of football and roll it into the previous attempts this year so far, you should be able to make a “logical decision”… and that’s Kurt right now.

But that's my logic, so take it for what it's worth...

 

[bg7brd]

I am sure Mort called the person he knows at the Cardinals--

I am sure that person stated speculation as fact "Whis will name Warner the starter"--

just like what 99% of us have also concluded

Good journalists don't report speculation as fact.

 

[jefftheshark]

In regards to jumping the gun on his reports, Mortenson is the Leonard Davis of reporters.

JTS

 

[dogpoo32]

In regards to jumping the gun on his reports, Mortenson is the Leonard Davis of reporters.

JTS

Nice

 

[cardsloco]

In regards to jumping the gun on his reports, Mortenson is the Leonard Davis of reporters.

JTS

Funny stuff, and true!

 

[DKCards]

I am not sure if he has not made a decision yet or not but I really think he has from his comments. He stressed that “they have not watched the film with the team yet”. He is not going to come out at 7:30 in the morning and say to the world that KW is the starter without first going to Matt and telling him and explaining to him why or the other way around.

I got the feeling that he is going to name KW the starter but is smart enough not to announce it publicly before privately.

 

[Shane]

The headline on ths story at Yahoo is hilarious.

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blo...d0M6yeGrg609k2RMEi04xNC5kB?urn=fantasy,103055

 

[Isaac]

Is there a link to this?

If I was whiz I would tell Matt and Kurt first alone after that go to the team closed doors tell the team. And not tell any one after that if it's Matt or Kurt let the 89ers plan for both Matt and Kurt. Yes?

 

[Carddan]

Even Morts inside sources SUCK....

Kid, that's funny. I guess everyone's "inside sources" suck, huh? At least I don't blame the messenger. I got no beef with you posting what you hear.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Is there a link to this?

If I was whiz I would tell Matt and Kurt first alone after that go to the team closed doors tell the team. And not tell any one after that if it's Matt or Kurt let the 89ers plan for both Matt and Kurt. Yes?

 

[Totally_Red]

I hope he keeps to the original plan, keep the Whiners guessing and having to prepare for both.

 

[moklerman]

"I learned from Bill Cowher that you dont make an emotional decision based on one half of football"

How many bad halfs of football did Kordell have before a decision was made to bench him? Making an informed, unemotional decision is one thing, failing to pull the trigger in an obvious situation is another. Letting a good team suffer through the growing pains of a popular young QB who's had moments of potential is the Kordell Stewart legacy. Tommy Maddox was a breath of fresh air for that team if that's any kind of indication.

 

[Gee!]

What's really sad is that last night on tv the local sports guys were saying Kurt was named the starter obviously going with the Mortenson report. Craig Foughy was the only one who said it couldn't be confirmed. He said he was in contact with the club and they had no comment. I guess its perfectly okay to report rumours as news. With that said, Kurt probably should and probably will be named the starter but lets wait and hear it from the coach.

Even La Cava was going with it.. Even had Jurecki on.. This is like two weeks in a row La Cava has had that grease hair Jurecki on.. Once I heard that last nite, I knew Whiz hadnt said either way.. Then just today Cowherd had the "NFC blooger" on.. Whoever that is, and he "assumed" Kurt would be starter.. He said assumed so fast as to cover it up.. I know for sure now that Whiz hasnt publically said one way or the other now.. Oh.. And the commercials of Whiz saying he hadnt made his decision on the radio from this mornings show helped too..

 

[Russ Smith]

How many bad halfs of football did Kordell have before a decision was made to bench him? Making an informed, unemotional decision is one thing, failing to pull the trigger in an obvious situation is another. Letting a good team suffer through the growing pains of a popular young QB who's had moments of potential is the Kordell Stewart legacy. Tommy Maddox was a breath of fresh air for that team if that's any kind of indication.

The year Kordell finally got benched for good was his 7th NFL season. He'd played in over 100 NFL games at that point and thrown over 2000 passes as an NFL Qb.

Matt is in year 3, 17 career games just under 500 career attempts. The situations aren't even remotely comparable, hell Stewart broke in as a Wr not a QB.

Matt played horribly, if they go with Kurt I have no objection, but comparing it to Kordell is way off the deep end IMHO.

 

[Gee!]

Here's An Article

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2008/08/25/20080825cardsqbs-CR.html

Whisenhunt says no decision yet
Coach refutes ESPN report
by Bob McManaman - Aug. 25, 2008 11:02 AM
The Arizona Republic

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt refuted an ESPN.com report that he has decided to use Kurt Warner over Matt Leinart as the team’s starting quarterback for the season opener at San Francisco.

Speaking on KTAR radio Monday morning, Whisenhunt said nothing has changed since Saturday night’s preseason win at Oakland and that he hadn’t even looked at tape from the game to make any decision.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, however, citing a team source, said Warner would be named the starter ahead of Leinart, who threw three interceptions against the Raiders.
“I haven’t read the paper today or seen the Internet,” Whisenhunt said. “Do we have a quarterback? … It seems like Chris Mortensen is making the decision on our quarterback for our football team. … But nothing has changed.”

Later, Whisenhunt said Leinart’s poor performance against the Raiders wouldn’t be the ultimate factor in any decision that is made.

“One thing I learned from (former Steelers coach) Bill Cowher is, you don’t want to make an emotional decision based on a half of football,” Whisenhunt said. “Look, we’ve put in a lot of work … and it’s based on a body of work. We don’t have to make that decision right now.

“We’re going to work on the things from the tape and correct it and when we do make a change of that magnitude, I’m sure you guys will know about it.”

Whisenhunt is scheduled to address the media at 1:30 p.m. after today’s practice and Leinart also was scheduled to be available.

 

[Carddan]

I can pretty much guess the Coach Whis answers to the questions; he will use language to keep all options open without offending anyone. I am interested to see if Matt faces the music to take questions. I bet he does, anyone else?

 

[moklerman]

but comparing it to Kordell is way off the deep end IMHO.

I'm not comparing Kordell and Leinart at their respective stages of development, I'm just not adhering to the gospel of Bill Cowher. He was a good coach but I don't know that I'd say he was the gold standard of when to make a decision on a QB sitting or playing. In a way, I give him credit for being loyal(stubborn?) to Kordell and giving him every opportunity to succeed but it became very obvious that he wasn't a "QB".

 

[Matt L]

I would say that Bill Cowher has been a better coach in the NFL than any of the previous 5 and if our head coach would like to emulate Bill Cowher he will get no objection from me. In fact, I wish that our owners and front office would emulate the Pittsburgh Steeler organization.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm not comparing Kordell and Leinart at their respective stages of development, I'm just not adhering to the gospel of Bill Cowher. He was a good coach but I don't know that I'd say he was the gold standard of when to make a decision on a QB sitting or playing. In a way, I give him credit for being loyal(stubborn?) to Kordell and giving him every opportunity to succeed but it became very obvious that he wasn't a "QB".

I guess my point was if Cowher had a Kurt Warner on his bench at the time he probably wouldn't have played Kordell?

 

[moklerman]

I guess my point was if Cowher had a Kurt Warner on his bench at the time he probably wouldn't have played Kordell?

I certainly remember the Steelers continually struggling to find Bradshaw's replacement. Malone, O'Donnell, Tomczak...I remember Jim Miller briefly looked good enough to spark a little hope. Kordell was the best of a bad lot and certainly a fan favorite coming off his role as "Slash". However, I will always feel that they stuck with him far, far too long and IMO, tried to force his development/success at the expense of the team. I've got absolutely no problem with Cowher overall but I think he was very much in error with how he handled the Kordell situation.

 

[RedLine]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2008/08/25/20080825cardsqbs-CR.html

Whisenhunt says no decision yet
Coach refutes ESPN report
by Bob McManaman - Aug. 25, 2008 11:02 AM
The Arizona Republic

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt refuted an ESPN.com report that he has decided to use Kurt Warner over Matt Leinart as the team’s starting quarterback for the season opener at San Francisco.

Speaking on KTAR radio Monday morning, Whisenhunt said nothing has changed since Saturday night’s preseason win at Oakland and that he hadn’t even looked at tape from the game to make any decision.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, however, citing a team source, said Warner would be named the starter ahead of Leinart, who threw three interceptions against the Raiders.
“I haven’t read the paper today or seen the Internet,” Whisenhunt said. “Do we have a quarterback? … It seems like Chris Mortensen is making the decision on our quarterback for our football team. … But nothing has changed.”

Here's what I think happened. Mortensen's staff heard the Cards radio broadcast and post-game shows, in which both Wolfley and Hank Kuhlman stated they believed (just their opinions) that Whiz would have to name Warner the starter now, to miantain credibility with the team that the best players would play.

Mortensen ran with that, and in a way he is technically correct that he got it from a team source, in that both Wolf and Kuhlman are employed by the team as broadcasters, but not coaching staff or front office.

This my friends, is what passes for modern journalism. He's probably correct, just a matter of when. Can't get beat getting the storyout!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

“Contrary to everything (reported), nothing has changed,” Whisenhunt said. “We have not made a decision. We have not named Kurt the starting quarterback.

“It’s unfortunate it was out there. It’s unfortunate Matt has to see those things. But I understand the quarterback is the focus and people are quick to make judgments. It’s a process. You don’t (make a decision) based on one play or one half. … But it’d be incorrect of me to ignore the fact Matt didn’t play well.”

Very well said by Coach Whiz.