Colt McCoy stays with the Cards

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Exactly. You can't just bench QBs. They are treated unlike any other player in professional sports.
And even if you could somehow, the entire team was playing so poorly that day, that Colt would have had ZERO chance to affect the outcome. SO leave em in, let emtake their medicine, and hope they grow from it. Sure doesnt seem like they/he did, but its still the right call in the moment.
 

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Exactly. You can't just bench QBs. They are treated unlike any other player in professional sports.
You can, and at times should. Not often, and with the greatest of consideration, but you certainly can. I would've put McCoy in at a certain point in the second half of the playoff game, for instance. KM clearly gave us no shot in that game and it's the freaking playoffs, so you do anything you can to win.
 

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And even if you could somehow, the entire team was playing so poorly that day, that Colt would have had ZERO chance to affect the outcome. SO leave em in, let emtake their medicine, and hope they grow from it. Sure doesnt seem like they/he did, but its still the right call in the moment.
Zero chance might be better than what Kyler was giving? Nobody was saying Colt had any chance in beating the Bears and SF but he put up a couple of nice performances. Not saying those teams rank anywhere near as the Rams but you still have to try. I dont get quitting in anything. But that's just me.
 

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Zero chance might be better than what Kyler was giving? Nobody was saying Colt had any chance in beating the Bears and SF but he put up a couple of nice performances. Not saying those teams rank anywhere near as the Rams but you still have to try. I dont get quitting in anything. But that's just me.
Naw. No one said anything about quitting. In fact, I would advocate benching a QB during the regular season, but I just cant see doing it when the lights are so bright. The risk is too high for damaging the guy.
 

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Naw. No one said anything about quitting. In fact, I would advocate benching a QB during the regular season, but I just cant see doing it when the lights are so bright. The risk is too high for damaging the guy.
Yeah I dont care about hurting his wittle feelings. Its all about performance on the field. Cant perform when the lights are bright? You shouldnt be a starting QB demanding top tier money.
 

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Over the course of three games. Surely no one thinks he could do that over the course of a 17 game season? Wheres the evidence of that?
Has he been given that opportunity by the Cardinals organization?
 

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Yeah I dont care about hurting his wittle feelings. Its all about performance on the field. Cant perform when the lights are bright? You shouldnt be a starting QB demanding top tier money.
wittle feelings??? ELway crapped the bed for years. So did Peyton. Palmer, ad nauseum. It was his first freaking time in the playoffs. Jeebus. It's a long game, big picture scenario. Youre a pound of flesh kinda guy, I imagine.
 

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wittle feelings??? ELway crapped the bed for years. So did Peyton. Palmer, ad nauseum. It was his first freaking time in the playoffs. Jeebus. It's a long game, big picture scenario. Youre a pound of flesh kinda guy, I imagine.
Elway crapped the bed for years? He consistently dragged a weak-ass Bronco team to the Super Bowl… 3 times in his early days. Not sure how that’s crapping the bed for years. He also consistently got the Broncos to the playoffs. Something Kyler hasn’t accomplished yet. So, that doesn’t seem like a basis for comparison.

You won’t get any argument from me on Peyton overall. He def crapped the bed for the majority of his playoff career. But he also played at an MVP level in his second and third seasons and consistently got the Colts to the playoffs… where he would meltdown. But at least he was aces for the entirety of seasons 2 and 3, as opposed to the back to back late season swoons by Kyler.

As for Palmer… he does not exist in this dojo of all-time QBs next to Peyton and Elway so I’m not sure why he’s even in this convo. He had one great full season (with us in 2015) after he tore his ACL in his third season, was consistently mediocre in regular seasons and pretty much trash in all his playoff games… well, what little games he actually got under his belt.

All that said, I wouldn’t have benched Kyler either. You need to show faith in a young QB in that situation even when he craps the bed. And we did. But that really made his decision not to finish the game with his teammates all the more pathetic. The team stood behind him in tough times. But he sat on the them when times were at their toughest.
 

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wittle feelings??? ELway crapped the bed for years. So did Peyton. Palmer, ad nauseum. It was his first freaking time in the playoffs. Jeebus. It's a long game, big picture scenario. Youre a pound of flesh kinda guy, I imagine.
Uh, no, KM was historically bad in that game. That wasn't a great-QB-can't-advance-in-his-first-playoff collapse; that was total humiliation and capitulation.
 

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