Commissioner Colangelo?
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I hope not.
I realize he does place baseball ahead of basketball as far as importance in sports (in radio interviews), but his baseball ideas are whack.
He once proposed a rotating World Series along the lines of the Super Bowl. And he's for even more inter-league play (I preferred it when the teams could only meet if they made the Series).
I say no.
I realize he does place baseball ahead of basketball as far as importance in sports (in radio interviews), but his baseball ideas are whack.
He once proposed a rotating World Series along the lines of the Super Bowl. And he's for even more inter-league play (I preferred it when the teams could only meet if they made the Series).
I say no.
BC867
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Colangelo is only four years younger than Selig.
What is this? The Supreme Court?!? :roll:
What is this? The Supreme Court?!? :roll:
moviegeekjn
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Inter-league play is for the birds... but that's not the main reason that JC shouldn't become the new commish. On the plus side, he DOES do his best to think of the fans, coming from his business background... but he's not primarily a "baseball man" no matter how much he is now interested by the game.
Whitey Herzog would be a great commishioner, but he's far too outspoken and honest for the owners to consider him. Plus, he's getting old and enjoying fishing too much. He DOES have some great ideas about pushing for fairness--looking towards equalizing the league rules about the DH, and abolishing Inter-league play, etc. He also has some radical ideas about the World Series that won't sit well with many fans--like establishing a neutral site and playing for seven straight days, for fairness sake.
Herzog has also stated that Bob Costas would make a fine commishioner, and if you read Costas' book Fair Play, it's apparent that Costas has insights and has the best interests of the game at heart.... but since he wouldn't be a total owner's lackey... not real likely he will be seriously considered either. The same goes for Whitey!
I love the fact that JC almost always puts the fans first but just the thought of MORE interleague should automatically disqualify JC. I think Costas would be a solid pick also. He would create revenue sharing and get rid of wild card. Both would be welcomed improvements IMO.
DWKB
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Costas?!?
Bob Costas?!?
I would be running scared if Costas became our commish. He has some incredibly warped view of MLB economics and (like most casual fans) is pro-owner without realizing it.
His "nastalgia" for the Mick and days long ago makes him unable to see the games evolvment in real terms. He's a great fan and a great ambassidor to the game as long as he doesn't have any power.
Bob Costas?!?
I would be running scared if Costas became our commish. He has some incredibly warped view of MLB economics and (like most casual fans) is pro-owner without realizing it.
His "nastalgia" for the Mick and days long ago makes him unable to see the games evolvment in real terms. He's a great fan and a great ambassidor to the game as long as he doesn't have any power.
moviegeekjn
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Assuming that you've read Fair Play ?
What evidence is there that Costas is "pro-owner"?
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Costas is for revenue sharing of Gate receipts and some local TV, but has no thought-out plan for proving the amount of revenue that a team earns though their local TV contracts and doesn't address the fact that Gate receipts don't come close to the amounts of "Other Local Revenue" such as concessions, parking, advertising, and luxary boxes. Without addressing this (out of ignorance or not) allows the owners to pretend fairness while still reaping the benifits of sweetheart deals.
Costas proposes a salary cap and floor on top of the revenue sharing. If you have revenue sharing, why do we need a cap? And if we have a team cap, why would we need an indivisual cap? This, at its core, is anti-player. "All players care about today is the money!!" Is so misguided its sad. A salary cap only goes to putting more money into the pockets of the owners as there is no true correlation between ticket prices and player's salaries. This is one of the biggest fallacies the owners have been able to pull over the public's eyes and Costas falls for it hook, line, and sinker.
A salary floor doesn't accomplish anything either. When you've got teams that are 27th and 28th making the playoffs and teams that are 3rd and 6th in payroll finishing last in their division I don't see how forcing those winning teams to spend more money will help competitive balance.
He wants to take away the DH, which would eliminate 14 MLB jobs. The union would never go for that. He wants to add "restricted FA" years to keep players from leaving teams.
The fact is, that Costas "suggestions" take all the leverage away from the players and give it to the owners. He might have the games best interest at heart, but either by ignorance or laziness, doesn't come even close to addressing the issues in a real world fashion.
Yes, I have read the book.
moviegeekjn
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Taking away the DH doesn't eliminate jobs--only re-distributes them, and actually allows more players playing time.
Just because someone suggests certain reforms, doesn't mean that those items would come to pass--Costas says as much in his book. The way I read Costas' ideas is that he's looking to restore competitive balance to baseball and his emphasis is on seeking ways to bring that about. No idea about his administrative abilities... or his ability to work with as disunified a body as baseball owners--the job itself sounds like an impossible task. The owners are NEVER going to hire someone that they don't perceive as pro-owner anyway so wouldn't be quick to write Costas off on that basis.....
AZZenny
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Costas was asked last year about interest in someday being commish. He responded "Are you nuts? I'm a fan, and I LOVE baseball - I would never want to be commissioner!"
DWKB
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That is the same logic that is given when they suggest contracting a couple of teams but adding an extra roster spot for the remaining teams.
You get rid of an Ellis Burks or Edgar Martinez and add on an extra Graeme Lloyd or Mike Myers? Who's getting the more playing time there?
moviegeekjn
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You have a 25 man roster without the DH, and a 25 man roster with the DH...Therefore, where is the loss of roster spots?
Watching what happens with the bench players when the D'backs visit AL parks makes it apparent that all the DH does is allow one dimensional players a few more years and take away from the playing time from several players who are more versatile. It does make a manager's on field job much easier too--many AL managers could practically sleep through their games.
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One dimensional? You mean like a pitcher? Yeah some of them bat, but who cares about it? There is nothing worse that seeing a runner on 2B and the hitter up with 2-outs. Why is it that when the pitcher is up to bat they show his ERA? How many ABs did Swindell get last year, Fetters, Myers, Mantei?
Mangers in the AL might sleep but managers in the NL managers are like robots. The double switch, the SAC by the pitcher, the IBB of the #8 batter (usually the catcher). All of these are predictable and boring. A bunt in the AL is used to get a hit, or in an extreme strategic situation. NL managers bunt because what else are you gonna do? NL Managers jobs are harder because they have to move, not because they have to think. IMO A ML pitcher trying to hit like a ML batter is like watching Mark Grace pitch. He can sorta do it, probably a lot better than Joe Average, but compared to his peers, it's kinda sad or funny to watch.
Depending on how you define strategy, the DH might actually create more of it instead of taking it away.
unc84steve
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George Will.
He knows the game "Men at Work"
Most of his ideas are pro free-market & thus pro-players.
He knows the game "Men at Work"
Most of his ideas are pro free-market & thus pro-players.
moviegeekjn
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On the plus side....Will would attempt to judge on the basis of what is best for the game, and he does understand lifelong frustration as a lifelong Cubs fan.
On the minus.... he's honest and an intellectual ... and baseball's history with those kind of people in the Commish office didn't fare well...
Likely impractical since it's a given that no one perceived as pro-players will ever be approved by the owners!
