Pistons @ Suns Saturday game thread 12-21-2024

[Mainstreet]

The Warriors lose by over 50 points one night and beat the Timberwolves in Minnesota tonight. That's grit.

 

[95pro]

Grayson Allen is being monitored for a concussion.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

We did better without him. I don’t want to discredit what he does but he’s a lesser version of O’Neal. A lesser version of Jones. And just not athletic enough. Just bad fit with Dunn on the roster now.

 

[95pro]

I don't think Bol Bol being out caused the problem. Now, if he were waived, that might be another matter.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Even Vogel found minutes for Bol. This year he’s been a non factor.

 

[95pro]

KD is set in his ways. We've tried taking him off the ball and it hasn't worked. He does what he wants. The only tike that's lead to real success is when he had Steph, Klay, Iggy, and Draymond surrounding him. It's failed everywhere else. Saw it multiple times tonight. He'd get the ball and start driving when anyone else would have passed it. When he does pass it, it's rarely on center. Lackadaisical is the best way to describe his passing. Even basic A to B passes within 6 feet of each other in front of the logo he'll toss it into a dribble for the other player so they can't catch it still.

He would have some opportunities if we had someone inside to pass it to and finish. There were several times where if we had a threat that player would have finished at or close to the rim.

 

[95pro]

If I am Detroit I don't do that trade.

Right! Guy is a problem. He is what Harris was supposed to be.

 

[Hoop Head]

We did better without him. I don’t want to discredit what he does but he’s a lesser version of O’Neal. A lesser version of Jones. And just not a enough. Just bad fit with Dunn on the roster now.

I'd say feature and move him. Maybe give him the start in place of Royce for a game or two after opening serious discussion with another team.

Royce is cheaper and plays defense.

 

[Mainstreet]

We did better without him. I don’t want to discredit what he does but he’s a lesser version of O’Neal. A lesser version of Jones. And just not a enough. Just bad fit with Dunn on the roster now.

Grayson Allen used to be a respectable shooting guard. This season, he isn't filling any role or need.

 

[Hoop Head]

He would have some opportunities if we had someone inside to pass it to and finish. There were several times where if we had a threat that player would have finished at or close to the rim.

Except that isn't who he is. Ayton regressed even more next to KD and Nurkic is less effective in the PnR than he was with Dame. It sounds like a good idea but KD is far too set in his ways.

I still believe he'd be a better SF next to a bigger forward but I think that would help more defensively than offensively. Of course we won't be able to acquire an Aaron Gordon or Pascal Siakam but even someone like Rui Hachimura would improve our frontcourt.

 

[95pro]

Side note wtf were the refs thinking on the Dunn block and Plum out of bounds.

 

[95pro]

Except that isn't who he is. Ayton regressed even more next to KD and Nurkic is less effective in the PnR than he was with Dame. It sounds like a good idea but KD is far too set in his ways.

I still believe he'd be a better PF next to a bigger forward but I think that would help more defensively than offensively. Of course we won't be able to acquire an Aaron Gordon or Pascal Siakam but even someone like Rui Hachimura would improve our frontcourt.

You’re talking forward. I’m talking center.

I don’t disagree with you about a forward. Rui would have been perfect for that.

 

[Mainstreet]

Except that isn't who he is. Ayton regressed even more next to KD and Nurkic is less effective in the PnR than he was with Dame. It sounds like a good idea but KD is far too set in his ways.

I still believe he'd be a better PF next to a bigger forward but I think that would help more defensively than offensively. Of course we won't be able to acquire an Aaron Gordon or Pascal Siakam but even someone like Rui Hachimura would improve our frontcourt.

I feel much the same.

I think KD would be better served playing small forward next to a power forward, except his handles are terrible.

 

[95pro]

It's obvious we need to play hard like we do when we are down late in games trying to dig it out. We have to play hard from the opening tip, until the last buzzer. We came out lethargic. We were behind the whole game.

The effort is pathetic. Everyone looks at the other guy to do the small things and dirty work. We fail at making simple boxouts or hedges on defense.

Just seems we get mixed up since we don’t switch anything it seems. And when in transition no one finds their guy until it’s too late.

 

[Mainstreet]

Talk without changes is just talk.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[Mainstreet]

Please, do not extend Kevin Durant.