Counterpoint: Kliff Kingsbury is the third-best HC in the NFL

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These guys bought football outsiders a couple years ago and this ranking is pretty incomprehensible to me.
 

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What the hell?
 

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These guys bought football outsiders a couple years ago and this ranking is pretty incomprehensible to me.
This seems to have changed if you follow the link now. "Kingsbury/Joseph" is now #2.
 

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"special emphasis on 4th down decision making"

Aren't cardinals first in 4th down conversion rate?

I think that's your answer.
 

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"special emphasis on 4th down decision making"

Aren't cardinals first in 4th down conversion rate?

I think that's your answer.
They were at the beginning of the year. They aren't anymore.
 

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They were at the beginning of the year. They aren't anymore.

That is true. I think we are 13th now.

We are top 10 in red zone offense (TD's) even though we struggled the last few weeks in that area. Reminds me that this was a MAJOR criticism of KK. I think we were 28th in 2019, 10th in 2020, and maybe 8th this year. I see improvement in an area of weakness. Still lots of room for improvement but that is a good sign.

Legit question - is there an area where KK has regressed?
 

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So Belichick is not a top 10 coach?
The ranking appears to be looking at in game coaching decisions, and having heavy weighting on going for it on 4th down and being successful.

I'm not sure how the list could still have Kliff/Joseph rated that high after the past 3 weeks.
 

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Are “Instagram models” really “models?”
Kinda. I think the definition of model has changed. 'Models' with millions of followers often get clothing from designers, to post about them on social media. Since that is where the youth and old like now get their information... for good and bad.
 

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Legit question - is there an area where KK has regressed?
You could argue his clock management hasn't gotten any better or has possibly even regressed.
 

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the real question is does his coaching meet the eye test. Would you take Kingsbury over Belichick or Payton or even Mike Vrabel who has taken the Titans to a winning record every year as coach, the playoffs twice and now looking like it will be a third playoff appearance with a guy like Ryan Tannehill as his QB.

They have Nagy higher than Belichick and Arians. They have Meyer/Bevell ranked #22.
 

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When it's a person's full-time job and she makes millions of dollars per year at it, I'd say so. This is the world in which we live now.

Hey, aren't there some kids you need to chase off your lawn?

...dave
“Millions of dollars per year?”
 

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“Millions of dollars per year?”
Google it... the top Instagram "influencers" (who are often musicians or entertainers above and beyond just modeling) make over $1,000,000 PER POST! Top models with millions of followers can make $50-$100K per post. Here's a list from a little over a year ago.

Based on her 3.2 million followers, Veronica Bielik probably makes around $5K per post. Looks as though she posts about 200 times per year, so you do the math! Of course, that's gross, not net. Continually traveling the world to picturesque locations surely takes a bite....

...dbs
 

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