Courtney Upshaw

[Chopper0080]

I see your reasoning. But that's a BIG HOPEFULLY concerning Burfict. To me he'll be a head case, if not right away, then down the road. He'll be a distraction. He's not a team guy at all. He's a me guy.

I'd definately like to get out hands on some of that 2nd round talent. The other Fla. St. OT is very good too and was rated higher coming into the season before he got injured. Any of them would be good there.

See, I think the majority of it is immaturity and I believe that we have a great mix of defensive personnel to bring a player like Burfict into. It is amazing how the defensive attitude and culture changes when you have players bought into a legitimate defensive system like we have now w/ Horton.

It won't happen, but how sweet would a linebacking corp of Haggens, Acho, Burfict and Schofield on the outside and Washington, Lenon, Hightower and Bradley on the inside be?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

See, I think the majority of it is immaturity and I believe that we have a great mix of defensive personnel to bring a player like Burfict into. It is amazing how the defensive attitude and culture changes when you have players bought into a legitimate defensive system like we have now w/ Horton.

It won't happen, but how sweet would a linebacking corp of Haggens, Acho, Burfict and Schofield on the outside and Washington, Lenon, Hightower and Bradley on the inside be?

Almost as sweet as one with Upshaw instead of Burfict...

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

If Upshaw played in the Pac 12 his sack #'s would be near the top in the country. SEC is not a passing league, they keep the ball on the ground mostly which gives Upshaw more opportunties in the run game. He led the SEC in TFL, a multidimensional OLB. I'm backing off him a little bit just because DeCastro would be a perfect pick at #13.

If Upshaw was in the Pac-12 he wouldn't even play on the outside, and his value would drop significantly. Besides, the only Pac school that even plays in a 34 is Stanford, and their OLB Chase Thomas has a much better burst than Upshaw. Most pass rushers in the Pac are fast and small, pretty much the exact opposite of Upshaw.

 

[Dr. Jones]

If Upshaw was in the Pac-12 he wouldn't even play on the outside, and his value would drop significantly. Besides, the only Pac school that even plays in a 34 is Stanford, and their OLB Chase Thomas has a much better burst than Upshaw. Most pass rushers in the Pac are fast and small, pretty much the exact opposite of Upshaw.

Upshaw will be a beast in the NFL.

And to be fair.... Upshaw would have started on any team in the Pac-12 last year. And probably made 1st team all Pac-12 in a landslide at whatever position best suited him on that specific defense.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

Upshaw will be a beast in the NFL.

And to be fair.... Upshaw would have started on any team in the Pac-12 last year. And probably made 1st team all Pac-12 in a landslide at whatever position best suited him on that specific defense.

I agree. Sacks are great, but tackles for loss are just as impressive and Upshaw gets a ton of those tackles.

 

[Duckjake]

Agreed. The shuttle drill is probably the most important for a LB. I remember when Spielman was at the combine and he ran a slow 40 time but had one of, if not the fastest shuttle times.

I think its the 3 cone drill. Some LB that had the fastest time in the 3 cone at the combine had 7 sacks for us last year and his starting at OLB marked the turn around of the Defense.

Can't remember his name though.

 

[MadCardDisease]

After seeing this kid blowing up people during the Senior Bowl practices, he's now top of my list at 13. Unless something strange happens and one of the top 2 OT's fall to us somehow, i want this guy.

This kid is a monster!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

After seeing this kid blowing up people during the Senior Bowl practices, he's now top of my list at 13. Unless something strange happens and one of the top 2 OT's fall to us somehow, i want this guy.

This kid is a monster!

He's been very impressive. If he works out great at the combine, he'll probably be a top 10 pick.

 

[JeffGollin]

I'm with Cardiac -

Depending on who's available at #13, all things being equal, I'd be more interested in an offensive tackle. It appears that there are more top O linemen available than originally projected - for example Adams from Ohio State isn't even mentioned in Mayock's Top 5 tackles.

Also - DeCastro seems quite reminiscent of Hutchison (whom I had rated #! or #2 on my BPA board when he was drafted). Despite the current CW, should we be taking a real close look at him for #13?

But if it was a pass rusher who was rated highest at #13, I'd rate Ingram over Upshaw as of right now.

PS Keep an eye on the "the hardest working OT in show biz" (James Brown from Troy). He's a beast.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm with Cardiac -

Depending on who's available at #13, all things being equal, I'd be more interested in an offensive tackle. It appears that there are more top O linemen available than originally projected - for example Adams from Ohio State isn't even mentioned in Mayock's Top 5 tackles.

Also - DeCastro seems quite reminiscent of Hutchison (whom I had rated #! or #2 on my BPA board when he was drafted). Despite the current CW, should we be taking a real close look at him for #13?

But if it was a pass rusher who was rated highest at #13, I'd rate Ingram over Upshaw as of right now.

PS Keep an eye on the "the hardest working OT in show biz" (James Brown from Troy). He's a beast.

I thought Adams was listed as the 4th rated OT by Mayock.

 

[football karma]

After seeing this kid blowing up people during the Senior Bowl practices, he's now top of my list at 13. Unless something strange happens and one of the top 2 OT's fall to us somehow, i want this guy.

This kid is a monster!

apparently both Upshaw and Melvin Ingram have looked very good

 

[WarnerHOF]

Ingram and Upshaw are nice but I don't they'll be the 10+ sacks a year guy like Mercilus who is what this defenses need to put it over the top imo.

 

[Dr. Jones]

We dont need 10+ sack artists.... We need run stuffing.....Edge setting.....beasts that need to be double teamed.

The scheme will create the sacks and everyone will be involved.

 

[Duckjake]

We dont need 10+ sack artists.... We need run stuffing.....Edge setting.....beasts that need to be double teamed.

The scheme will create the sacks and everyone will be involved.

That's the combination of Sam Acho and Calais Campbell.

I told everyone last year that all the Cards needed to do was get bigger on D. That's what happened with Acho and Williams and Carter and Eason and Holliday. Heck even DWash was bigger last season. And look what happened. Over the last 9 games of the season we saw the best D the Cards have played since 1994. In spite of having zero offense.

 

[Dr. Jones]

That's the combination of Sam Acho and Calais Campbell.

I told everyone last year that all the Cards needed to do was get bigger on D. That's what happened with Acho and Williams and Carter and Eason and Holliday. Heck even DWash was bigger last season. And look what happened. Over the last 9 games of the season we saw the best D the Cards have played since 1994. In spite of having zero offense.

So one side is covered....... And to be fair, I am not convinced Sam sets the edge or takes on blocks anywhere near as well as he rushes the passer.

 

[Duckjake]

So one side is covered....... And to be fair, I am not convinced Sam sets the edge or takes on blocks anywhere near as well as he rushes the passer.

The results disagree with you. In fact he sets the edge and takes on blocks better than he rushes the passer. That's why I think eventually he moves to Haggans spot on the strong side and we bring in a pass rusher for the blind side.

 

[WildBB]

apparently both Upshaw and Melvin Ingram have looked very good

I think them two Perry and possibly Couples could all be very good.

My favorite would have to be Upshaw though. But like cbus said, it's looking more likely he'll be gone by 13.

 

[WildBB]

We dont need 10+ sack artists.... We need run stuffing.....Edge setting.....beasts that need to be double teamed.

The scheme will create the sacks and everyone will be involved.

This is exactly right. Upshaw would be that guy.

 

[Chopper0080]

We dont need 10+ sack artists.... We need run stuffing.....Edge setting.....beasts that need to be double teamed.

The scheme will create the sacks and everyone will be involved.

I think pass rushers are exactly what we need as it seems to be the biggest reason the Packers and Saints were beaten in the playoffs. A beaten QB makes mistakes and turns the ball over, a beaten running back does not.

 

[Buckybird]

I think pass rushers are exactly what we need as it seems to be the biggest reason the Packers and Saints were beaten in the playoffs. A beaten QB makes mistakes and turns the ball over, a beaten running back does not.

Eli didn't

I get what your saying though...is Schohawk good enough to start & be more than a situational player? That's the question & if Wiz & Co add that guy at #13 that tells me alot!!!

 

[Dr. Jones]

I think pass rushers are exactly what we need as it seems to be the biggest reason the Packers and Saints were beaten in the playoffs. A beaten QB makes mistakes and turns the ball over, a beaten running back does not.

I agree... The ultimate goal is sacks, pressures, and hurries. I just think our scheme is predicated on unpredictable pressure. Not the elite talent of one players abilities to defeat a single or double team.

However..... I think we would all want a Woodley, Ware, Watt or Matthews on this defense. And I would be very happy to buy that person's jersey.