Currently Drafting 4th *UPDATED*

[TheCardinal]

Against OAK, we played each other and six other common opponents who would cancel each other out for one of the meetings (KC, LAC, DEN, LAR, SEA, SF). The remaining nine (including the second meetings with divisional opponents) would be the difference for strength of schedule.

For ARI: LAR, SEA, SF, CHI, MIN, GBP, DET, WSH, ATL = 51 wins
For OAK: KC, LAC, DEN, PIT, BAL, CIN, CLE, MIA, IND = 56 wins

Each tie is a half-win. Root for their opponents, root against ours.

 

[kerouac9]

I LOVE the draft talk....look at it this way....when do we ever have time to talk about the draft after the Super Bowl....Jan, Feb, March, April till the 25th....only 4 months to yap about it.
Gotta love a season where the draft talk started in November :#
Maybe, just maybe it's time to find a new team that doesn't live in the gutter...it is an option

Were you on vacation? Draft talk started here in October.

 

[Southpaw]

DWI = Drafting while intoxicated

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Coaches do that. BA is the same guy that took Bucannon and asked him to gain 20lbs and play LB when Washington got suspended and Dansby left out of need.

That's not a GM thing

This is a false narrative in regards to reddick. Keims intent was always to install reddick as a mlb.

 

[Finito]

This is a false narrative in regards to reddick. Keims intent was always to install reddick as a mlb.

Dude that's the coach saying I want this guy and I want him to do this instead of that. Coach and GM have to work together and be on the same page.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Dude that's the coach saying I want this guy and I want him to do this instead of that. Coach and GM have to work together and be on the same page.

Does your back hurt bending and twisting so much to avoid holding Keim accountable? My goodness. Yeah GM has to work with coach, but also has to be the counter when necessary. Otherwise you just give coach dual role. If keims just a yes man he’s worthless.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Where does the scouting department fall in all this 1st round suckage?

 

[kerouac9]

Dude that's the coach saying I want this guy and I want him to do this instead of that. Coach and GM have to work together and be on the same page.

Many people were saying before the draft that Reddick was an NFL off-ball linebacker. He had the classic Keim profile.

 

[AZ Native]

Keim is sweating bullets.

12 drinks will do that to you.

 

[Finito]

Does your back hurt bending and twisting so much to avoid holding Keim accountable? My goodness. Yeah GM has to work with coach, but also has to be the counter when necessary. Otherwise you just give coach dual role. If keims just a yes man he’s worthless.

Some of this stuff is just insane.

Well uh he like Abdulah...but he drafted David Johnson...but I mean uh he would of drafted him if he could of...but he drafted David Johnson...but

He drafted Redick to play out of position. No that's the coach the coach tells players what position they play not the GM. That's crazy talk.

When Whiz started losing control he got let go, BA came in we built a veteran team to win now and we won, now BA is gone and we are rebuilding.

They hired McCoy and fired him. That's a sign of a good front office. We made a mistake let's fix it. Bad front offices keep on keeping on with what's not working.

Now let's be realistic here. Guys here want the coach and GM fired has anyone ever done that in the middle of a season?

We were picked to finish last in our division by damn near everyone did you think this was going to be a good season?

The good organizations don't have high turn over in the front office they don't panic when things don't work out.

SK just pulled off a hell of a move getting Rosen moving up in the draft and still keeping this years 1. Got a damn good looking young receiver in that draft to, but oh well who wants a young QB, young RB and young WR on the roster. Now we need to fill out around them but this team is not in that bad shape moving forward.

Drafted Cooper but turned him into Chandler Jones that's crazy

He's done some really really good things, but fans can't deal with a losing season so it's fire everybody

 

[DevonCardsFan]

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/4/12/15274148/most-nfl-draft-picks-are-busts

Yeah facts suck. What you think the NFL draft is and what the NFL draft really is are two diffrent things.

It's a total crap shoot

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-draft-teams-picks-draft-records-ranked-2012-present-030117

Wilks 5 year period ranked 6th worst, GM Championship. Your broad brush of all draft picks bust is just a very simple way of looking at it. Passing on QBs to to land project LBers, taking a Guard extremely high and not hitting, constantly having teams teams out work you to jump up and take a qb or pass rusher, right before you. There is so much that goes into it. Keim gets cute and drafts projects, Reddick, Brandon Williams you must not study the draft often Steve.

 

[Finito]

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-draft-teams-picks-draft-records-ranked-2012-present-030117

Wilks 5 year period ranked 6th worst, GM Championship. Your broad brush of all draft picks bust is just a very simple way of looking at it. Passing on QBs to to land project LBers, taking a Guard extremely high and not hitting, constantly having teams teams out work you to jump up and take a qb or pass rusher, right before you. There is so much that goes into it. Keim gets cute and drafts projects, Reddick, Brandon Williams you must not study the draft often Steve.

Hindsight is 20/20 look at that Cooper draft it was very weak at the top. Cooper was considered a safe pick a can't miss future all pro a plug and play guy.

Eric Fischer
Luke Joekl
Dion Jordan
Ziggy Ansah
Barkivious Mingo
Cooper
Tavon Austin
Dee Milliner
Chance Warmack

That's as bad a top ten as you will ever see. The 3 guys picked right in back were not good players.

Holy crap talk about turning lemons into lemonade. He flipped Cooper and a 2nd rounder for maybe the best pass rusher in the NFL, but let's not focus on how a bad situation was made great. Hell without Cooper we don't get Jones. Greatest trade in the history of the franchise hands down.

But let's keep talking about drafting Cooper

Yeah sometimes you take projects and hope they pan out, back to the whole NFL draft is a crap shoot. I remember the cards taking a 6'8 ver raw project who really wasn't all the great at first from the U but guess what he panned out didn't he. That's the draft dude

 

[Ronin]

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[GatorAZ]

At least the Jets also won.

 

[MrYeahBut]

At least the Jets also won.

Titans came back and won that game.

 

[Finito]

4th hmmmm

That puts us out of the Q Williams/Nick Bosa race

 

[oaken1]

4th hmmmm

That puts us out of the Q Williams/Nick Bosa race

Not necessarily. Giants will likely trade up to get a qb and someone will draft an OT

 

[GatorAZ]

Not necessarily. Giants will likely trade up to get a qb and someone will draft an OT

Would be beneficial to the Birds if Haskins comes out. He’s nowhere near ready but it would push another guy down.

 

[Chopper0080]

Many people were saying before the draft that Reddick was an NFL off-ball linebacker. He had the classic Keim profile.

Especially since that is the only position in a 3-4 defense that his profile can play.

 

[Chopper0080]

Some of this stuff is just insane.

Well uh he like Abdulah...but he drafted David Johnson...but I mean uh he would of drafted him if he could of...but he drafted David Johnson...but

He drafted Redick to play out of position. No that's the coach the coach tells players what position they play not the GM. That's crazy talk.

When Whiz started losing control he got let go, BA came in we built a veteran team to win now and we won, now BA is gone and we are rebuilding.

They hired McCoy and fired him. That's a sign of a good front office. We made a mistake let's fix it. Bad front offices keep on keeping on with what's not working.

Now let's be realistic here. Guys here want the coach and GM fired has anyone ever done that in the middle of a season?

We were picked to finish last in our division by damn near everyone did you think this was going to be a good season?

The good organizations don't have high turn over in the front office they don't panic when things don't work out.

SK just pulled off a hell of a move getting Rosen moving up in the draft and still keeping this years 1. Got a damn good looking young receiver in that draft to, but oh well who wants a young QB, young RB and young WR on the roster. Now we need to fill out around them but this team is not in that bad shape moving forward.

Drafted Cooper but turned him into Chandler Jones that's crazy

He's done some really really good things, but fans can't deal with a losing season so it's fire everybody

Can we clarify that we traded a top 10 draft pick and a 2nd round pick for Chandler Jones. If you want to offset Keim's miss on Cooper because he was able to trade him for Chandler Jones, then you have to count Cooper as the pick Keim spent on him.

 

[Chopper0080]

I feel like we are going to end up drafting 10th with Wilks and Keim in charge for another season.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I feel like we are going to end up drafting 10th with Wilks and Keim in charge for another season.

I hope we win two more games, pick 10th and draft N’Keal Harry. But Wilks must be fired

 

[Stout]

I feel like we are going to end up drafting 10th with Wilks and Keim in charge for another season.

 

[AZCrazy]

We were definitely helped today by the Giants, Bucs, and Jags all winning also. But this nonsense has to stop. Give it the old college try but don't beat anyone else.

 

[Finito]

Can we clarify that we traded a top 10 draft pick and a 2nd round pick for Chandler Jones. If you want to offset Keim's miss on Cooper because he was able to trade him for Chandler Jones, then you have to count Cooper as the pick Keim spent on him.

And you also have to count that Cooper was considered a very safe pick. A pick that was supposed to be plug and play all pro.

Look at the 3 picks right after Cooper to round out the top ten. Horrible all of them. Oh but he's a guard.. Well you want a CB? Dee Millinar? HORRIBLE would you have rather had a WR? Tavon Austin? HORRIBLE oh another guard went in the top ten Chance Warmack? HORRIBLE.

Really bad draft and you have to consider that looking back. You have to consider everything if you want to do this