D-Backs Determined To Leave Orlando With Choo Or Trumbo

[PDXChris]

9:31am: One executive that spoke with the Diamondbacks came away with the impression that Arizona is getting Choo, tweets Andy Martino of the New York Daily News.

9:25am: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports (via Twitter) that one potential Trumbo package that has been discussed would send both Cahill and Skaggs to the Angels, which would seem to be a tremendous haul for the right-handed slugger.

9:22am: The Diamondbacks are "determined" to leave the Winter Meetings with Shin-Soo Choo or Mark Trumbo, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (on Twitter). According to Sherman, Choo's asking price is said to be in the range of Carl Crawford's seven-year, $142MM contract, and the Rangers remain in the mix. One thing working in Arizona's favor in regards to Choo is that the outfielder currently resides in Buckeye, Ariz., tweets MLB.com's Steve Gilbert.

The Diamondbacks emerged as players for Choo yesterday and are said to be involved in trade talks for Trumbo as well. Reportedly, names like Tyler Skaggs and Trevor Cahill have been discussed with the Angels in talks for Trumbo, who hit 34 homers last season but is seen as a below-average defender in the outfield and comes with OBP issues.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/d-backs-determined-to-leave-orlando-with-choo-or-trumbo.html

I do not like either of these at all.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Choo would be a coup. I would give up Cahill and Delgado for Trumbo but no Skaggs.

 

[PDXChris]

The Diamondbacks are reportedly "determined" to leave the Winter Meetings with either Shin-Soo Choo or Mark Trumbo. That same report indicated that Choo is seeking something similar to Carl Crawford's seven-year, $142MM contract. Choo is arguably the top remaining free agent on the market, and talks with him were said to be reaching a "critical stage" last night. Here are Tuesday's Choo rumors (Choo-mors? ...Sorry):

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I am a well documented OBP junkie and Choo is one of the best in baseball in that statistical category. I also like how they will be giving up zero prospects or players for him. The money is a bit high and the 7 years isn't too favorable but I also know he was one of the better free agents on the market and think he is the perfect compliment to Goldschmidt.

 

[PDXChris]

I am a well documented OBP junkie and Choo is one of the best in baseball in that statistical category. I also like how they will be giving up zero prospects or players for him. The money is a bit high and the 7 years isn't too favorable but I also know he was one of the better free agents on the market and think he is the perfect compliment to Goldschmidt.

I like Choo for $12-$14 million a year max. He is not a $20 million a year players and he had 3 or 4 years left in his prime.

 

[Brian]

I am a well documented OBP junkie and Choo is one of the best in baseball in that statistical category. I also like how they will be giving up zero prospects or players for him. The money is a bit high and the 7 years isn't too favorable but I also know he was one of the better free agents on the market and think he is the perfect compliment to Goldschmidt.

I think there are a couple of problems: The money is ALOT high. That's too much for a platoon hitter. He can't hit lefties. I agree that his OBP is terrific.

He's also 32 going into next season. IF he were 27-28, I'd like the deal alot more.

Trumbo and Choo have some big warts. Not sure why KT is hyper-focusing on those two, but it looks like one or the other is going to be a D-Back soon.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

I think there are a couple of problems: The money is ALOT high. That's too much for a platoon hitter. He can't hit lefties. I agree that his OBP is terrific.

He's also 32 going into next season. IF he were 27-28, I'd like the deal alot more.

Trumbo and Choo have some big warts. Not sure why KT is hyper-focusing on those two, but it looks like one or the other is going to be a D-Back soon.

His splits are horrid. That is another level of high concern for me. Benefit of Trumbo is he is younger and on a cheaper, more team control contract. His OBP is atrocious though and he seems the consummate hit or miss player. Not to say his OBP can't improve with coaching, but I am not too confident he even turns into a .320 OBP guy. I think the "go get Mark Reynolds back, he gives the same thing" argument is a valid one.

 

[PDXChris]

ESPN's Keith Law reports (via Twitter) that the Mark Trumbo talks between the Diamondbacks and Angels have expanded to include the White Sox, with a potential framework sending Adam Eaton to Chicago and Hector Santiago and Tyler Skaggs to the Angels.

Parting with Skaggs and Eaton would be a steep price to pay in order to play Trumbo out of position at a corner outfield spot, but reports have indicated that the D-Backs are "determined" to leave Orlando with either Trumbo or Shin-Soo Choo in tow, and the financial commitment required to add Choo would be significant. Adding Skaggs and Santiago would be a tremendous win for Angels GM Jerry Dipoto, who has been in the market for controllable young starters for months.

Interesting

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Interesting

Would it just be Trumbo coming to Arizona? Wonder what Chicago would toss in.

 

[Azlen]

Would it just be Trumbo coming to Arizona? Wonder what Chicago would toss in.

The D'backs would get Trumbo while giving up Eaton and Skaggs. The Sox would get Eaton and send Santiago to LA. LA would send Trumbo to the D'backs getting Skaggs and Santiago.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

The D'backs would get Trumbo while giving up Eaton and Skaggs. The Sox would get Eaton and send Santiago to LA. LA would send Trumbo to the D'backs getting Skaggs and Santiago.

Gotcha. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[sundevil04]

Skaggs AND Eaton for a .234 hitter with a sub .300 OBP?!?!? Trading two young talented players that cost is a total of around one million?!?!?!?!?

I defended Towers last offseason but I'm beginning to really dislike the guy.

That's not to mention were still left with Cahills nearly 10 mil a year contract.

 

[PDXChris]

11:38am: MLB.com's Steve Gilbert tweets that Arizona would receive a pair of good prospects in addition to Trumbo.

11:27am: Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago (via Twitter) hears that the talks are definitely ongoing but are still in the preliminary phases. The three sides are making some progress but a deal isn't close at this time, Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register agrees (on Twitter).

This is with the Angels, so maybe we can get a Skaggs type of player....errrr.....never mind.

But in all seriousness, we get get Corbin from them as a throw in.

 

[sfrancis13]

I am a well documented OBP junkie and Choo is one of the best in baseball in that statistical category. I also like how they will be giving up zero prospects or players for him. The money is a bit high and the 7 years isn't too favorable but I also know he was one of the better free agents on the market and think he is the perfect compliment to Goldschmidt.

But you are giving up a prospect for Choo. He was given a qualifying offer which means the Diamondbacks have to give up their 1st round pick to sign him.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Getting prospects makes this deal worlds better.

 

[unseenaz]

Skaggs AND Eaton for a .234 hitter with a sub .300 OBP?!?!? Trading two young talented players that cost is a total of around one million?!?!?!?!?

I defended Towers last offseason but I'm beginning to really dislike the guy.

That's not to mention were still left with Cahills nearly 10 mil a year contract.

Your acting like the trade already happen. Nothing is nothing.
But it seems like we always get ****ed in these 3 team deals. Trumbo reminds me of Jason bay.. Where's he now? Oh ya japan.
No way in hell Choo is worth 20 mil a year.

 

[PDXChris]

12:33pm: The White Sox have asked the Halos about Hank Conger this winter, but he's not believed to be in play on this trade, tweets Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times.

12:22pm: The deal is "getting pretty close," a source tells MLB.com's Alden Gonzalez (Twitter link). Though he was discussed in a separate trade with the White Sox and Angels, Kendrick is not part of this deal, Gonzalez adds.

12:10pm: USA Today's Bob Nightengale reports that the three teams are optimistic about their chances of finalizing the trade (Twitter link). Meanwhile, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic agrees with Gilbert's report from below, noting that Arizona would receive one prospect from the Angels and one from the Sox (also on Twitter).

Looks like it is getting close. I wonder who the prospects are.

 

[sfrancis13]

Getting prospects makes this deal worlds better.

The Angels and White Sox have two of the worst farm systems in baseball. I'd be wary of the type of guy we are really going to get. This trade looks awful at best and a disaster at worst depending on the type of contract Towers gives Trumbo.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Its a done deal. Arizona will be getting Trumbo and a PTBNL.

 

[unseenaz]

I don't like the trade. Why'd we trade upton if we planned on getting a power outfield 1 year later. Adam eaton was hailed as CFOTF like 8 months ago

 

[unseenaz]

at least we kept AJ

 

[Phrazbit]

Oh good lord. We're "determined" to get a platoon outfielder who will be useless against half the divisions pitchers or a slightly upgraded version of Mark Reynolds. And only the dbacks have such awful secrecy in trade talks.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yep, you might as well count this as added cost to the Upton trade. Now dumping Skaggs and Eaton to fill the void, and acquiring a significantly inferior player, both in the field and at the plate.

Towers is a ****ing disaster. He is ruining this franchise.

 

[PDXChris]

Yep, you might as well count this as added cost to the Upton trade. Now dumping Skaggs and Eaton to fill the void, and acquiring a significantly inferior player, both in the field and at the plate.

Towers is a ****ing disaster. He is ruining this franchise.

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[crisper57]

Oh good lord. We're "determined" to get a platoon outfielder who will be useless against half the divisions pitchers or a slightly upgraded version of Mark Reynolds. And only the dbacks have such awful secrecy in trade talks.

KT is watching too many Brad Pitt movies. Getting multiple teams to bid on a prospect in order to drive down the price only works in the movies. In real life, the patsy team says "sold" before you have a chance to recant the offer.