D-backs Trade Deadline Rumors

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][FONT=arial,sans-serif]the Arizona Diamondbacks are shopping lefty-hitting outfielders Luis Gonzalez and Shawn Green, without much interest so far."
http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/gr...umns-0/1153026930241710.xml&coll=1&thispage=4


[/FONT][/FONT]"While the Diamondbacks are in fourth place in the National League West, Byrnes, 35, a native of Washington, D.C., calls his current trade position between now and the deadline `neutral.'"
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2006/07/16/byrnes_is_thrown_into_fire/


"t's possible they could trade a veteran or two, thereby saving money and acquiring young talent, and at the same time bring up major league-ready prospects without losing much production. That might be easier said than done, although one option the club is said to be exploring is a trade of right fielder Shawn Green.

Such a deal would get the team out from under Green's contract - he's still owed about $16 million through 2007 - and open a position for an outfield prospect such as Carlos Quentin or Scott Hairston.

Green's performance the past two seasons has been solid, and the Diamondbacks may be able to find a team willing to assume all of his remaining salary. But Green has no trade protection to all but a handful of West Coast teams."
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0713dbacks0713.html

 

[boondockdrunk]

I think the player with the most trade value on the team is Estrada. He is a catcher who can hit in the 5th or 6th spot in the line-up and provide decent defense while calling a good game. However, the teams in contention right now really are set at the catching position. The only team that might be interested would be the Reds. There is only one problem with that, they have no real good pitching prospects that I would want on the team (besides Homer Bailey who is not going to be traded as he is their only impact minor leaguer). A three way deal might work in this situation, still it is a long shot.

Any trade of Shawn Green would be a salary dump, in my opinion. No team is going to be willing to give up any kind of decent prospect for him and pay his salary. What I could see happening is us picking up the remaining portion of his contract for this year and getting a pitching prospect in the lower minors who has good potential but also a good chance of failing.

In addition, I think Gonzo has even less trade value.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

I think the player with the most trade value on the team is Estrada. He is a catcher who can hit in the 5th or 6th spot in the line-up and provide decent defense while calling a good game. However, the teams in contention right now really are set at the catching position. The only team that might be interested would be the Reds. There is only one problem with that, they have no real good pitching prospects that I would want on the team (besides Homer Bailey who is not going to be traded as he is their only impact minor leaguer). A three way deal might work in this situation, still it is a long shot.

All valid points, but why would the Dbacks look to trade Estrada in the first place?

 

[boondockdrunk]

All valid points, but why would the Dbacks look to trade Estrada in the first place?

Because he is a free agent after the season and, like with the outfield, we have a good prospect (Montero) as well as a MLB ready player with Snyder. He is better defensively than Estrada and I think he is starting to figure it out at the plate. While I do not want Estrada traded, I think he is expendable for those reasons as well as having the most value of the three.

 

[Card Trader]

Snyder sucks, I hope we focus on keeping Estrada. Snyder's defense is NOT better than Estrada's....HAH! as I was writing this, I watch Snyder just snooze as Prince Fielder goes from first to third on a passed ball.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Because he is a free agent after the season and, like with the outfield, we have a good prospect (Montero) as well as a MLB ready player with Snyder. He is better defensively than Estrada and I think he is starting to figure it out at the plate. While I do not want Estrada traded, I think he is expendable for those reasons as well as having the most value of the three.

I think Estrada is still arbitration eligible for next season.

 

[overseascardfan]

Montero isn't ready and Estrada is better than Snyder so getting rid of him now would be a huge mistake.

 

[boondockdrunk]

Snyder sucks, I hope we focus on keeping Estrada. Snyder's defense is NOT better than Estrada's....HAH! as I was writing this, I watch Snyder just snooze as Prince Fielder goes from first to third on a passed ball.

Sorry but you are incorrect. Snyder is a better fielder than Estrada and here are the numbers to prove it:
In 418 career games Estrada has committed 17 errors, thrown out 27% of base stealers, and has a 'zone rating' (The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc.) of .986. This is compared to Snyder who, in 170 games, has committed 2 errors, thrown out 30.4% of base stealers, and has a zone rating of 1.000.

In fact, the only defensive category that Estrada beats out Snyder in is passed balls (Estrada [15 total] allows 1 passed ball every 27.86 games while Snyder [14 total] allows 1 passed ball every 12.14 games).

In addition, I do not know why so many people are down on Snyder. Sure he had a horrible season last year, but he was a 24 year old catcher, who skipped triple-A and was thrust right into the starting role every day. To those who think that Snyder is just anemic at the plate realize that Snyder has a better OBP (.356) than Estrada (.343).

I am not discrediting how important Estrada has been to the team, but merely pointing out that Snyder is not the same awful player that he was last year. And overseascardfan is correct, Montero is not ready for the MLB. However, we do have options at catcher in case someone comes along and offers us a good deal for Estrada.

 

[boondockdrunk]

OF Luis Gonzalez
Contract status: Signed through 2006
The D-Backs hold a $10 million option on Gonzalez for 2007, but it's unlikely they would pick it up as they try to make room for young corner outfielders like Carlos Quentin and Scott Hairston. Gonzalez has a no-trade clause and it's unclear whether he would approve a deal.

RHP Miguel Batista
Contract status: Signed through 2006
The D-Backs may find Batista too expensive for their liking in 2007 so if they could get a prospect for the right-hander they may be tempted to part with him.

SS Craig Counsell
Contract status: Signed through 2006
Counsell could be dealt if the D-Backs want to make room for top prospect shortstop Stephen Drew. Counsell has played short this season, but also can play third and second and has performed well in the postseason before.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/...d=1544616&vkey=news_mlb_nd&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

 

[devilfan02]

Chris Snyder sucks in every which way. No way we trade Estrada or let him walk because Snyder is a "MLB ready player" and we have Montero coming up. Montero isn't close to being ready and if you want to have Snyder back there everyday then we're not watching the same Chris Snyder.

 

[devilalum]

Chris Snyder sucks in every which way. No way we trade Estrada or let him walk because Snyder is a "MLB ready player" and we have Montero coming up. Montero isn't close to being ready and if you want to have Snyder back there everyday then we're not watching the same Chris Snyder.

I think Mark Grace clearly expounded on Snyder's abilities last year for all to hear and I haven't noticed a huge improvement this year.

 

[Stallion]

"[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][FONT=arial,sans-serif]the Arizona Diamondbacks are shopping lefty-hitting outfielders Luis Gonzalez and Shawn Green..."

Yay!

...without much interest so far."

Oh yeah. That's right.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

The Yankees have expressed some interest in Arizona right fielder Shawn Green, who can veto a trade to anywhere other than San Diego and the Los Angeles teams. But the Diamondbacks may not want much for the 33-year-old Green -- who is signed for $9.5 million next year, with a 2008 option -- as they are trying to open spots for prospects.

http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/115311362650910.xml&coll=1

 

[devilfan02]

The Green to NYY trade rumor is now on ESPN.com rumor mill. I'd post it but I guess we're not allowed to anymore. All it said was that the Yanks have inquired about Green and that the Dbacks would ask for very little in return assuming the Yanks would pick up his remaining contract (9.5 next year with a 10 mill option the following, 2 mill buyout). It also said we're not asking for much because we want to fill spots with prospects

 

[Ryanwb]

The Green to NYY trade rumor is now on ESPN.com rumor mill. I'd post it but I guess we're not allowed to anymore. All it said was that the Yanks have inquired about Green and that the Dbacks would ask for very little in return assuming the Yanks would pick up his remaining contract (9.5 next year with a 10 mill option the following, 2 mill buyout). It also said we're not asking for much because we want to fill spots with prospects

This would help the team out big time, I totally hope it goes through

 

[AzJc]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060707&content_id=1544616&vkey=news_mlb_nd&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Counsell can't be traded, a team can't trade an injured player, and the trading deadline is 2 weeks away, and Counsell wont be back before that

 

[Evil Ash]

Counsell can't be traded, a team can't trade an injured player, and the trading deadline is 2 weeks away, and Counsell wont be back before that

He was injured on the 14th and went on the DL that day. They can activate him and then trade him the 29th-31st

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"However, Rodrigo Lopez is very available. His 52/3 shutout innings Sunday against Texas only help his marketability. The Yanks and, especially, the Mets have been intrigued. There are NL clubs that think Lopez could be like Bronson Arroyo, and thrive in the lighter-hitting NL if he is removed from the AL East. The Cardinals, Reds, Padres, Rockies and Diamondbacks are intrigued enough that they are talking to Baltimore about Lopez."
http://www.nypost.com/sports/right_guys_sports_joel_sherman.htm

"Arizona, which reportedly has an interest in Westbrook, has a scout following the Indians for the next six days.
The Indians would not trade Westbrook easily. He's been their most durable starter the past two years. It's a slam dunk that they'll pick up his $5.6 million club option for 2007 unless something unforeseen happens."
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plai.../sports/115321187351350.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"The club [Boston] continues to scour the trade market, but there's little of interest being made available. Among the names circulating are Minnesota's Kyle Lohse, Arizona's Miguel Batista and perhaps Cleveland's Jake Westbrook.
The Sox might be willing to move Wily Mo Pena -- recalled from Pawtucket yesterday -- for a pitcher. The Chicago Cubs and Washington Nationals have inquired about Pena, but neither has starting pitching to deal."
http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/projo_20060719_19rsoxjo.16d6138.html

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

"NOTHING TO IT

There is nothing to a rumor out of New York that the D-Backs have an interest in Baltimore right-hander Rodrigo Lopez, according to a source close to the situation.

Lopez is struggling this season (6-10, 6.44 ERA) but has won at least 14 games in three of the past four seasons, and is among those being mentioned as players the Orioles would like to move by the July 31 non-waiver trading deadline. San Diego and Colorado are said to be among several teams that have asked about Lopez."
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=69909

 

[AzJc]

He was injured on the 14th and went on the DL that day. They can activate him and then trade him the 29th-31st

the word on Counsell is he will be out 3-6 weeks

 

[Evil Ash]

the word on Counsell is he will be out 3-6 weeks

True but what they can do is activate him, trade him, and the team that gets him would put him on the DL. I'm not saying anyone is going to do it but it can be done

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

True but what they can do is activate him, trade him, and the team that gets him would put him on the DL. I'm not saying anyone is going to do it but it can be done

Isnt there some rule prohibiting that?

 

[Evil Ash]

Isnt there some rule prohibiting that?

Not that I know of. I know you can't trade someone on the DL but an activated player going to another team and then going back on the DL isn't against the rules as far as I know ... Just as long as teams are willing to look the other way on a physical

 

[HooverDam]

I know that in pretty much every sports video game you cant trade an injured player, so there you go