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I think DA....

has been a gem not utilized. It amazed me last year how this kid could have the 2 longest run in pre-season ...and then not be utilized AT ALL. Bill Parcells, Bilichek and a Dennis Green would have at least designed 5 or 6 plays specifically for his talents. To sit on the bench an entire year while we were going 4-12 is plain stupid.
I thought it was imperative that we drafted a Tatum Bell or Mewelde Moore based on the assumption Damien Anderson would never be the same. I guess that is yet to be seen, but apparently the "G-Men" will be back and 100%

If we make a run at the playoffs ,I predict, Damien Anderson will have played a very significant role in several victories.
 
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has been a gem not utilized. It amazed me last year how this kid could have the 2 longest run in pre-season ...and then not be utilized AT ALL. Bill Parcells, Bilichek and a Dennis Green would have at least designed 5 or 6 plays specifically for his talents. To sit on the bench an entire year while we were going 4-12 is plain stupid.
I thought it was imperative that we drafted a Tatum Bell or Mewelde Moore based on the assumption Damien Anderson would never be the same. I guess that is yet to be seen, but apparently the "G-Men" will be back and 100%

If we make a run at the playoffs ,I predict, Damien Anderson will have played a very significant role in several victories.

He compliments Shipp's style. They'd make a great 1-2 punch.
 

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If everyone is healthy, Emmitt and Scobey are numbers 2 & 3 on the depth chart and DA will be #4. Anderson's role this year will be less than last year.
 

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If everyone is healthy, Emmitt and Scobey are numbers 2 & 3 on the depth chart and DA will be #4. Anderson's role this year will be less than last year.

Agreed Scobey is a better reciever out of the back field, and rumors are that Green likes Scobey's abilities. Plus Anderson still has legal issues looming over his head. Scobey will be the man behind Smith this year with Anderson being the odd man out.
 

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I honestly feel that this guy could be our feature back this year or next year. It sounds like he's finally got his crap together. That accident might be the best thing that has happened to him. Life is short. Play hard. He might become this year's hidden star:
http://www.azcardinals.com/press/pressdetails.php?sid=1918

The question is can he survive training camp with Shipp,Smith and Scobey in front of him.
 

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Agreed Scobey is a better reciever out of the back field, and rumors are that Green likes Scobey's abilities. Plus Anderson still has legal issues looming over his head. Scobey will be the man behind Smith this year with Anderson being the odd man out.


I too think Green has plans for Scobey. More than anyone on our team he reminds me of Robert Smith.
 

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slanidrac16 said:
has been a gem not utilized. It amazed me last year how this kid could have the 2 longest run in pre-season ...and then not be utilized AT ALL. Bill Parcells, .


Pre-season is the key word.
 

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??? And the love fest for Scobey comes from where? Aside from KR duties, Scobey has done nothing on this team. Nothing. Yet all of a sudden he's a better receiver out of the backfield and Anderson's role will be diminished. The same Anderson who lit it up in his opportunities to shine in the regular season.

Yes, Green has given Scobey the vote of confidence. Was it the McCown 'solid' vote of confidence, or was it the 'death' vote of confidence, like the one he gave Blake? Or the one he gave Wakefield? 'Cause I'm sure Wakefield won't be starting for us, and I doubt he'll even be on the roster.
 

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??? And the love fest for Scobey comes from where? Aside from KR duties, Scobey has done nothing on this team. Nothing. Yet all of a sudden he's a better receiver out of the backfield and Anderson's role will be diminished. The same Anderson who lit it up in his opportunities to shine in the regular season.

Yes, Green has given Scobey the vote of confidence. Was it the McCown 'solid' vote of confidence, or was it the 'death' vote of confidence, like the one he gave Blake? Or the one he gave Wakefield? 'Cause I'm sure Wakefield won't be starting for us, and I doubt he'll even be on the roster.

Take for it what you will. But Green likes Scobey. That is eveident. I dont see as much smoke and mirrors in that as I do in the statement about Wakefield.
 
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Regardless of who is or isn't best suited to back up Marcel and Emmitt, I for one am pulling hard for Damien (because of Damien).

If it turns out he returns to pre-accident form and makes the roster, it will be icing on the cake, and I'll be delirious because it will give us much-needed quality depth at the 3rd-level.

Time will tell, but I always felt Damien was underrated in his #3 role.
 

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Green on Scobey

Cards runner feels his Shipp has come in

Green craves speedy backs but is unlikely to spend early pick

By DARREN URBAN TRIBUNE
****When Dennis Green was running his high-powered offense for 10 years in Minnesota, the linchpin that made it go wasn’t Cris Carter or Randy Moss or the cornucopia of quarterbacks.
****It was speedy running back Robert Smith, who forced teams to play the run and inevitably get burned by the pass.
****When Smith abruptly retired in 2000, Green went out and took another blazing back, Michael Bennett, in the first round of the NFL draft.
****The Cardinals don’t have a burner in the backfield. Marcel Shipp isn’t one, and neither is backup Emmitt Smith. But while the Cards could end up taking a back somewhere in this weekend’s draft, Green’s confidence in Shipp has been obvious.
****"I feel good at running back," Green said.
****Green points to times when the Vikings won not with Smith or Bennett but with Scottie Graham and Leroy Hoard, players more in Shipp’s mold.
****And after a frustrating couple of years for Shipp, in which he outplayed both Thomas Jones and Smith but remained the backup, he wants to be the anchor of the Cards’ offense.
****"The coaches are on the same page as I am on, and I really feel this will be my year to shine," Shipp said. "This is my opportunity to make it or break it. I am sure I will make it."
****It isn’t a great year for running backs in the draft. Almost all of the top prospects ran a little slower than expected during workouts, disappointing for a lot of teams. Oregon State’s Steven Jackson and Virginia Tech’s Kevin Jones will still be drafted in the first round, but it may end up being later in the round.
****Another factor is the rising thought that a team need not use a high draft pick on a running back. Many productive backs have been found in the third round and later while others, like Shipp, went undrafted.
*** Arizona’s Josh Scobey, whom Green said is in line to take over the backup role from Smith in 2005, was a sixth-round choice. ***
****That trend should continue this year. ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper has said teams can get the best running back value — and possible gems — later rather than earlier in 2004.
****"It’s guaranteed, in rounds three through five this year, quality (backs) will come out of that portion of the draft," Kiper said.
****That depends on what kind of quality you are looking for. Of the NFL’s top 15 rushers last year, only two — Stephen Davis (a fourth-rounder) and Priest Holmes (undrafted) — weren’t taken after the first or second round of the draft.
****"Backs taken in the later rounds can have success," Cardinals vice president of football operations Rod Graves said. "I don’t know if that affects your attitudes toward the top guys. Those top guys we still believe are great players."
****With Smith in his final year in Arizona and the future of third-stringer Damien Anderson murky because of injuries after an offseason car accident, the Cardinals will eventually need to find another runner.
****Shipp is prepared for it to be this year — and plans to fend off Green’s newest version of Robert Smith or Bennett.
****"I know (Green) will make the right decision whatever it might be," Shipp said. "I just have to focus on getting better, so if they do bring somebody in I can be a step ahead."
 

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Stout said:
??? And the love fest for Scobey comes from where? Aside from KR duties, Scobey has done nothing on this team. Nothing. Yet all of a sudden he's a better receiver out of the backfield and Anderson's role will be diminished. The same Anderson who lit it up in his opportunities to shine in the regular season.

Yes, Green has given Scobey the vote of confidence. Was it the McCown 'solid' vote of confidence, or was it the 'death' vote of confidence, like the one he gave Blake? Or the one he gave Wakefield? 'Cause I'm sure Wakefield won't be starting for us, and I doubt he'll even be on the roster.

Oh what tangled webs we weave....and what short memories we have....

Flashback to two years ago. Everyone and their dog is ragging on Mac and the Cards because they are going into the season having designated Marcel Shipp as the starter, and all are harping on how Shipp has proven absolutely nothing, has no experience, etc, etc, etc.

....oh what short memories we have.

:shrug:
 

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Tangodnzr said:
Oh what tangled webs we weave....and what short memories we have....

Flashback to two years ago. Everyone and their dog is ragging on Mac and the Cards because they are going into the season having designated Marcel Shipp as the starter, and all are harping on how Shipp has proven absolutely nothing, has no experience, etc, etc, etc.

....oh what short memories we have.

:shrug:

O, what irrelevencies we spew...Marcel Shipp has WHAT to do with Scobey again? :shrug: I'm not saying Scobey isn't good, Tango. I'm just wondering why people are bagging on Anderson, who has PROVEN he can play in an NFL game, and are so high on Scobey, who has shown nothing outside of KR duties.

So what if Shipp can play? It's apples and oranges to mention this when discussing Shipp. By this same rationale, Joe Schmo could walk in off the street and, since people don't think he can succeed, he will. Your logic is flawed, to say the least.
 

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By this same rationale, Joe Schmo could walk in off the street and, since people don't think he can succeed, he will. Your logic is flawed, to say the least.

Just so you know I am not the burner type of running back that Green wants. I am more of a bruiser type back.
 

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Stout said:
O, what irrelevencies we spew...Marcel Shipp has WHAT to do with Scobey again? :shrug: I'm not saying Scobey isn't good, Tango. I'm just wondering why people are bagging on Anderson, who has PROVEN he can play in an NFL game, and are so high on Scobey, who has shown nothing outside of KR duties.

So what if Shipp can play? It's apples and oranges to mention this when discussing Shipp. By this same rationale, Joe Schmo could walk in off the street and, since people don't think he can succeed, he will. Your logic is flawed, to say the least.

Irrelevant?

I simply pointed out that what is being said now about Scobey is almost word for word what was being said about Shipp two years ago....tell me you didn't understand that.... :confused:

And I don't see many, if any, people "bagging" on Anderson. I liked what I saw of him last year. But evidently like some others its only natural to wonder if he will be the same player now, after his accident injuries.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much !!! :D
 

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I think if you take Shipp, Smith, Scobey, Anderson and combine them all into one guy, then we'd have a solid running back. Right now we've got nothing.
 

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Irrelevant?

I simply pointed out that what is being said now about Scobey is almost word for word what was being said about Shipp two years ago....tell me you didn't understand that.... :confused:

And I don't see many, if any, people "bagging" on Anderson. I liked what I saw of him last year. But evidently like some others its only natural to wonder if he will be the same player now, after his accident injuries.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much !!! :D

Yes, irrelevant. Just because the situation is similar doesn't mean the players are. You do realize they are two different players, don't you? I understand what you're trying to say...it's just illogical. You're equating Shipp's success to Scobey's future just because the same kinds of things were said about them. How is that logical? It isn't.

Lady? You see a lady here, you suck his...Lol, nevermind. Your feeble insult can't even get me riled up-it's hard to take offense when a male ballet dancer accuses another guy of being a lady ;)
 

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Stout said:
Yes, irrelevant. Just because the situation is similar doesn't mean the players are. You do realize they are two different players, don't you? I understand what you're trying to say...it's just illogical. You're equating Shipp's success to Scobey's future just because the same kinds of things were said about them. How is that logical? It isn't.

Lady? You see a lady here, you suck his...Lol, nevermind. Your feeble insult can't even get me riled up-it's hard to take offense when a male ballet dancer accuses another guy of being a lady ;)

:lmao:

:violin:

for someone who supposedly isn't "riled up" you sure seem to be pretty quick on the trigger with the insults. :shrug:

I thought that maybe since you are such a self proclaimed Shakespeare exspurt that maybe trying to communicate with you via that medium might be worth a shot.....oh well. :shrug:
 

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Tangodnzr said:
:lmao:

:violin:

for someone who supposedly isn't "riled up" you sure seem to be pretty quick on the trigger with the insults. :shrug:

Insults? One insult (in response to another) and a half one I couldn't even bring myself to finish. Riled? Okay, whatever man.

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I thought that maybe since you are such a self proclaimed Shakespeare exspurt that maybe trying to communicate with you via that medium might be worth a shot.....oh well. :shrug:

Yeah, sure you were...that's why you went with a quote naming me a lady. Tango, you're so easy to see through. You insult someone, and when they reply, you try to say you were being nice. Riiiiight.


How about you actually reply to the TOPIC. You're saying Shipp and Scobey's talent levels are the same because people doubted both of them. Care to respond to THAT?
 
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