Darren Collison

[slinslin]

That argument can be made for many players who put up similiar stats than Rose and have worse teammates.

25/13 would be more impressive if he didn't get dominated in his matchup giving up 27/17 or something.

 

[PDXChris]

That argument can be made for many players who put up similiar stats than Rose and have worse teammates.

25/13 would be more impressive if he didn't get dominated in his matchup giving up 27/17 or something.

Say the man who as the avatar of the most overrated player in the NBA.

 

[Mulli]

That argument can be made for many players who put up similiar stats than Rose and have worse teammates.

25/13 would be more impressive if he didn't get dominated in his matchup giving up 27/17 or something.

Very Nash-like.

 

[AfroSuns]

Say the man who as the avatar of the most overrated player in the NBA.

Amare is overrated? After 2 surgeries and with the number he is putting up, you think Amare is the most overrated player in the NBA??

 

[PDXChris]

Amare is overrated? After 2 surgeries and with the number he is putting up, you think Amare is the most overrated player in the NBA??

Not really, unless it is comparing him to slinlin's version or Amare.

 

[slinslin]

Yeah Amare is very overrated.. only averaging 27/10 34mpg the last 2 months, finally back to his old self since that eye surgery.

 

[Ronin]

Hurrah for a good two months!
Suns should trade Amare for Tyrus Thomas.

 

[Ronin]

Lol after that last post my asfn $$ increase from 7 to 15.
Somebody must like me.

 

[slinslin]

Hello to the Mr.Rose fans. Did you know Derrick Rose gives up:

110 points per 100 possessions and creates just 105 points per 100 possession?

That's quiet rare for a supposed star. His defense is just horrible despite being on a supposedly pretty good defensive team.

He is -5 in net production basically.

Even supposedly atrocious defenders like Nash, while giving up 115 per 100 possessions on a bad defensive team like the Suns are a net +6(121-115) or Amare Stoudemire +7(116-109).

Paul 125-108 = +17
Billups 122-110 = +12
Nash 121-115 = +6
Williams 115-109 = +6
Rondo 112-102 = +10
Westbrook 105-105 = 0
Brooks 109-110 = -1
Curry 106-111=-5
Rose 105-110 = -5
Jennings 100-104 = -4

 

[Ronin]

I don't think anybody has argued that Rose is/was a good defender. He wasn't in college and neither was Tyreke.
I guess John Calipari doesn't coach defense.

 

[Mulli]

I don't think anybody has argued that Rose is/was a good defender. He wasn't in college and neither was Tyreke.
I guess John Calipari doesn't coach defense.

And who said the Bulls were a good defensive team?

 

[Ronin]

And who said the Bulls were a good defensive team?

Vinny Del Negro?