Yah I had forgotten Tony was in earlier, but still, I don't like messing w/ Valverde's confidence.
EDIT: Well Dbacks win, what a nail bitter.
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Yah I had forgotten Tony was in earlier, but still, I don't like messing w/ Valverde's confidence.
EDIT: Well Dbacks win, what a nail bitter.
Lyon relieves Valverde, facing Rod Barajas.
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Dbacks hold on to win.
Probably. More decision making. Valverde and another pitcher should have been ready.
Whew - but will this shake Valverde?
Valverde doesn't seem mentally tough at times, but hey, he's come back from terrible outings well so far. I think Melvin should have taken him out, well...he never should have put him in anyway. CoJack has been hitting great so far, but that's one reason I'd like to keep Tracy. He's not that great, but he still plays first base much better.
We won, and that's all that matters. DD finally gets a win!
We won, and that's all that matters. DD finally gets a win!
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Who knew? Everybody but Mr. Potato Head
Valverde wasn't even waiting for all of Snyder's signs before going into his windup. His concentration was that weak.
Everyone but Mr. Potato Head (aka Bob Melvin) knew. I guess he was too busy picking the skin on his face and sucking on his finger. (Didja watch him?)
Leading the league in saves and our ******** Manager shakes Valverde's confidence by putting him into a bad situation.
And, yes, despite Conor Jackson's recent hitting, he lacks concentration . . . and not just in non-save situations.
I shudder at the thought of benching Reynolds (Mr. RBI) and leaving Jackson in lineup when Tracy returns.
Say 'hi' to our Manager.
Everyone in the Western Hemisphere knew that Valverde has no concentration in a non-save situation. Sutton and Grace predicted that this would happen before Papa Grande threw a pitch.
Valverde wasn't even waiting for all of Snyder's signs before going into his windup. His concentration was that weak.
Everyone but Mr. Potato Head (aka Bob Melvin) knew. I guess he was too busy picking the skin on his face and sucking on his finger. (Didja watch him?)
Leading the league in saves and our ******** Manager shakes Valverde's confidence by putting him into a bad situation.
And, yes, despite Conor Jackson's recent hitting, he lacks concentration . . . and not just in non-save situations.
I shudder at the thought of benching Reynolds (Mr. RBI) and leaving Jackson in lineup when Tracy returns.
Say 'hi' to our Manager.
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It isn't nearly that simple. Since it was a save situation until the Diamondbacks had two outs in their half of the ninth they didn't really have anybody warming up in a hurry (Lyon had been up and down but wasn't fully ready), nor should they. A lot of late inning relievers like Valverde dislike warming up for a long time and then not pitch (not that closers enjoy pitching in non save situations), and its basically a waste to tax your relievers by doing such a thing anyways.
The only one that can be blamed for Jose Valverde serving up home runs and losing any idea of the plate's location is Jose Valverde. Valverde is not Trevor Hoffman, he does not have the luxury to only pitch when its a save situation. Chances are that Valverde is not going to be a closer his entire career. And as such, if he has concentration problems when it is not a save situation then that is something he is going to need to work through and learn until that doesn't happen anymore. This isn't going to crush his confidence, just like it didn't the last time he went through this. Of course, lost in all of this is that the Dbacks are on a tear right now, but any lame excuse to take a silly swipe at the manager.
The only one that can be blamed for Jose Valverde serving up home runs and losing any idea of the plate's location is Jose Valverde. Valverde is not Trevor Hoffman, he does not have the luxury to only pitch when its a save situation. Chances are that Valverde is not going to be a closer his entire career. And as such, if he has concentration problems when it is not a save situation then that is something he is going to need to work through and learn until that doesn't happen anymore. This isn't going to crush his confidence, just like it didn't the last time he went through this. Of course, lost in all of this is that the Dbacks are on a tear right now, but any lame excuse to take a silly swipe at the manager.
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Jackson was probably the reason for the win despite his error. I agree with you coyote that the only one that can be blamed for the blown lead was Valverde. I am glad Lyon was able to close the deal to get Davis the much deserved win. Only mistake Davis made was giving up that blast to Howard. Despite what the critics say about reynolds defense he continues to impress. Made some nice plays to day on
the defensive end. Nice slide also! I am calling him Roy Hobbs!
the defensive end. Nice slide also! I am calling him Roy Hobbs!
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I have to agree with CHF above.
It's Valverde's fault, even if he does lose concentration during non save situations. He gets paid to concentrate for one inning, Davis did a great job for 8. Maybe the best thing that happened to him, so he learns and we don't lose.
If he breaks up like he did last year about blowing it, then he's not the guy we want as the closer, he's got to learn to blow these things off.
And Jackson does need to be jumped, not only missing an easy grounder, but more for not watching for the cut off throw.
Is it just me, but do Grace's comments sound like he's not impressed so far?
It's Valverde's fault, even if he does lose concentration during non save situations. He gets paid to concentrate for one inning, Davis did a great job for 8. Maybe the best thing that happened to him, so he learns and we don't lose.
If he breaks up like he did last year about blowing it, then he's not the guy we want as the closer, he's got to learn to blow these things off.
And Jackson does need to be jumped, not only missing an easy grounder, but more for not watching for the cut off throw.
Is it just me, but do Grace's comments sound like he's not impressed so far?
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There's no point of sending Jackson to Tucson, unless you think him destroying inferior pitching in AAA while learning to play 1B is important in the grand scheme of things. Conor will pick up the nuances of the position (look at Ryan Howard, Kevin Youkilis), he just needs the time and has only been playing the position since 2005.
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Jackson's hit .329 in the month of May and has raised his average to .277, not bad for a guy that many want to demote.
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Fans can blame after failure. So it's natural for you to say this on a D'backs board.
It's the job of a Manager and Pitching Coach, however, to correct a tendency and build confidence.
They did neither for Valverde yesterday.
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Too little too late. Damn.
Don't cry. The Phillies are off to a great start today. Pause. Not.
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man great to see our offense is coming up good today early and good to see owings pitch out of some hard spots great start to this game so far and grats on owings on getting which i'm sure is his first mlb triple 
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Micah didn't have anywhere near his best stuff today and yet the team is winning. Last year, a SP has a bad game and all hope for a win is virtually gone.
I am not saying this is a playoff caliber team yet but these are the steps we need to see for success.
as for the Valverde thing...yeah he needs to concentrate even in a non-save situation but it is not unlike the Cubs' Ryan Dempster. He is awfully good in save situations and seems awful in non-save situations. To me, that is about the mentality it takes to be a closer and when a save isn't on the line, that alters the mental approach a P takes because he is human.
I am not saying this is a playoff caliber team yet but these are the steps we need to see for success.
as for the Valverde thing...yeah he needs to concentrate even in a non-save situation but it is not unlike the Cubs' Ryan Dempster. He is awfully good in save situations and seems awful in non-save situations. To me, that is about the mentality it takes to be a closer and when a save isn't on the line, that alters the mental approach a P takes because he is human.
Ugh - Medders...
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to make things worse he injured Reynolds. I really hope Reynolds will be ok.
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Send Medders to Tucson right after tonight's game! By the way, nice to see Drew get back at the dirty Phillies.
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I guess Greg Dobbs owns the DBacks... Still 10-4 DBacks in the bottom of the 8th...
OMG LMAO.. Why did that Philly dude just let it fall inbounds ? lol.. I love it..
