DCU: Man of Steel

[Mulli]

I know, right? Zack Synder should have learned some lessons from Michael Bay and his Transformers movies.

Exactly the movie I was thinking of, sad to be compared to silly movies like TrNsformers. Movies that are meant to be silly.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Exactly the movie I was thinking of, sad to be compared to silly movies like TrNsformers. Movies that are meant to be silly.

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[Mulli]

And whoever the guy was that played Zod is no Terrence Stamp. I really hope the next Superman has an original villain, fewer buildings falling over, and shorter fight scenes. I would say the same for star trek into darkness.

 

[crisper57]

And whoever the guy was that played Zod is no Terrence Stamp. I really hope the next Superman has an original villain, fewer buildings falling over, and shorter fight scenes. I would say the same for star trek into darkness.

Terrance Stamp is Zod!!! I get that they were trying to make this version a bit more shaded, so they wanted a character actor like Michael Shannon to give him some depth. Unfortunately, they did not accomplish any real depth in the script and he came off less awesome than the single gear, world-domineering Zod from the 1970's.

 

[Cheesebeef]

And whoever the guy was that played Zod is no Terrence Stamp. I really hope the next Superman has an original villain, fewer buildings falling over, and shorter fight scenes. I would say the same for star trek into darkness.

yeah. Shannon was a real disappointment for me. Stamp was a petty deilcious villain who didn't have to be at 11 to be intimidating or evil. Shannon was just screaming a lot.

the most damning thing about the movie for me, is that the longer i get away from it, the less i ever want/need to watch it again.

 

[Mulli]

yeah. Shannon was a real disappointment for me. Stamp was a petty deilcious villain who didn't have to be at 11 to be intimidating or evil. Shannon was just screaming a lot.

the most damning thing about the movie for me, is that the longer i get away from it, the less i ever want/need to watch it again.

Agree. And the 3D, what a waste!

 

[Covert Rain]

Agree. And the 3D, what a waste!

The 3D was one of the redeeming aspects of the movie for me. Zach Snyder was simply a bad choice and had more to do with the movies failures IMO. The way he put scenes together at times absolutely were annoying.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Completely enjoyed it! Good stuff!

Me too!!!! I loved it!!!

 

[MadCardDisease]

A lot of silly stuff in this movie. Though it was still decent enough to be entertaining. Plus I thought that Cavill was perfect as Superman.

Shannon was just OK as Zod. Crowe flying around on dragons was silly. Also thought the last 30 minutes were way over the top.

 

[Gee!]

I liked this movie I guess.. Although it was pretty corny in parts.. And some big flaws in it.. And it felt like every other sci-fi movie I have seen.. Complete with tentacles reaching and grabbing people..

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

I still like it, even after a pair of additional viewings.

 

[Gee!]

I still like it, even after a pair of additional viewings.

Totally felt like it was setting up for the rest of the movies.. I understood that.. I liked it.. Hope the second one is better.. After Spider-Man, Superman is about the only other comic book movie I can watch.. But Spider-Man is the best ever.. Haha

 

[UncleChris]

My wife and I both really liked it, but had a few complaints that took it down a notch.

Spoiler

The end was definitely too long. And destroying half of New York, although a visual Thanksgiving of special effects, was unnecessary and led us to a "can this now be over" attitude.

The Octopus arms during the final sequences were eyerolling.... I mean, come on!

I liked all the actors in their portrayals, except for Amy Adams as Lois Lane. We thought the character was just kind of irritating.

I know they were looking for something fresh, but the tornado killing of Jonathan Kent with a "trust" undertone was weak. The original heart attack death was superior.

The good news - Special effects wowzers!!! Really enjoyed them.

We thought Zod was just fine.... for this movie. Remember that the first Sups movies were played pretty light (think Beatty and Hackman as Otis and Luthor) and the Zod was better for that movie.

The other plot variations were just fine.

All in all, 4 1/2 stars out of 5 for its genre. 4 out of 5 overall

 

[Phrazbit]

So, I recently gave this a reviewing, and I know this is going to be a minority viewpoint... but I actually liked "Superman Returns" more. I dont really think that was a great movie but it had its moments that gave you the tingle you should feel during a superhero movie, especially one about a dude that is basically a god strutting around on earth.

Man of Steel starts of strong, the Krypton stuff was neat (except for the silly thing Russell Crowe flew around on), and the parts where young Clark Kent is struggling to control his powers, him saving random people... then after that I felt like things got flat and/or stupid.

The major complaints would be...

Spoiler

Lois Lane manages to track down Superman's childhood home in about two days, and while I like Amy Adams, I dont know if it was the writing or her portrayal but Lois was waaaaaaay too cocky, to an irritating extent.

And the bigger complaint, WHAT THE HELL WAS ZOD THINKING?!?! He is a God on this planet, virtually indestructible, he can make the entire human race his slaves... but what is grand plan? To transform earth's atmosphere into the same dump Krypton was?!?!? Dude, you can fly, throw mountains and shoot lazers out your eyes... why mess with a good thing?

I dont mean to say I hated it, it was entertaining, but Superman should have some scenes that inspire childlike awe, this didnt.

 

[crisper57]

So, I recently gave this a reviewing, and I know this is going to be a minority viewpoint... but I actually liked "Superman Returns" more. I dont really think that was a great movie but it had its moments that gave you the tingle you should feel during a superhero movie, especially one about a dude that is basically a god strutting around on earth.

Man of Steel starts of strong, the Krypton stuff was neat (except for the silly thing Russell Crowe flew around on), and the parts where young Clark Kent is struggling to control his powers, him saving random people... then after that I felt like things got flat and/or stupid.

The major complaints would be...

Spoiler

Lois Lane manages to track down Superman's childhood home in about two days, and while I like Amy Adams, I dont know if it was the writing or her portrayal but Lois was waaaaaaay too cocky, to an irritating extent.

And the bigger complaint, WHAT THE HELL WAS ZOD THINKING?!?! He is a God on this planet, virtually indestructible, he can make the entire human race his slaves... but what is grand plan? To transform earth's atmosphere into the same dump Krypton was?!?!? Dude, you can fly, throw mountains and shoot lazers out your eyes... why mess with a good thing?

I dont mean to say I hated it, it was entertaining, but Superman should have some scenes that inspire childlike awe, this didnt.

My spoiler response:

Spoiler

They tried to explain this away a little. Zod was genetically created to protect the Kryptonian race above all things, even itself. His entire existence was to save his people. He couldn't fight marching orders that were basically infused into his DNA from birth. So in a lot of ways, he was a slave to his programming, rather than a flat-out villain. He HAD to destroy humanity so that the Kryptonians may live. That layering would have been fascinating, but they mention it like once and then go off and let him just be a generic all-powerful bad guy on Earth.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Just watched this again for the first time since the theaters and I was struck by how much I liked the first half and was just so turned off by the last 45 minutes of action where an entire city was destroyed. Spectacle wise it was impressive, but the idea of "He saved us!" when Superman is basically standing in the middle of a ruin just left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Phrazbit]

Just watched this again for the first time since the theaters and I was struck by how much I liked the first half and was just so turned off by the last 45 minutes of action where an entire city was destroyed. Spectacle wise it was impressive, but the idea of "He saved us!" when Superman is basically standing in the middle of a ruin just left a bad taste in my mouth.

Yeah, that was a serious issue too. Its Superman we are talking about here. His entire schtick is that in the middle of crazy, history altering tragedy he is such a boss that he not only defeats the villain but does stuff like move mountains in order to spare cities from damage, while also taking a moment to get a cat out of a tree. Superman is supposed to do everything he can to get the fight away from a populated area... THIS Superman meanwhile uses sky scrapers like folding chairs. Half the city is crumbling in the background, who knows how many people are on the verge of death and Superman takes a good 5 minutes to make out with Lois.

I know some of this stuff makes for a cool visual... but you're dealing with a character that is viewed as a god, you cant have him cleverly dodging the fuel laden tanker that was hurled at him only to let it slam into the building behind him and kill who knows how many people.

 

[UncleChris]

Yeah, that was a serious issue too. Its Superman we are talking about here. His entire schtick is that in the middle of crazy, history altering tragedy he is such a boss that he not only defeats the villain but does stuff like move mountains in order to spare cities from damage, while also taking a moment to get a cat out of a tree. Superman is supposed to do everything he can to get the fight away from a populated area... THIS Superman meanwhile uses sky scrapers like folding chairs. Half the city is crumbling in the background, who knows how many people are on the verge of death and Superman takes a good 5 minutes to make out with Lois.

I know some of this stuff makes for a cool visual... but you're dealing with a character that is viewed as a god, you cant have him cleverly dodging the fuel laden tanker that was hurled at him only to let it slam into the building behind him and kill who knows how many people.

Exactly!

 

[SunsTzu]

Yeah, that was a serious issue too. Its Superman we are talking about here. His entire schtick is that in the middle of crazy, history altering tragedy he is such a boss that he not only defeats the villain but does stuff like move mountains in order to spare cities from damage, while also taking a moment to get a cat out of a tree. Superman is supposed to do everything he can to get the fight away from a populated area... THIS Superman meanwhile uses sky scrapers like folding chairs. Half the city is crumbling in the background, who knows how many people are on the verge of death and Superman takes a good 5 minutes to make out with Lois.

I know some of this stuff makes for a cool visual... but you're dealing with a character that is viewed as a god, you cant have him cleverly dodging the fuel laden tanker that was hurled at him only to let it slam into the building behind him and kill who knows how many people.

This is why I liked the movie. Superman is usually such a boring super hero. Pretty much every movie is him being invincible then coming across some kryptonite then somehow getting away from the kryptonite and being invincible again ending with some anticlimactic conclusion.

 

[Covert Rain]

This is why I liked the movie. Superman is usually such a boring super hero. Pretty much every movie is him being invincible then coming across some kryptonite then somehow getting away from the kryptonite and being invincible again ending with some anticlimactic conclusion.

I thought the last action sequence was exhausting and went on too long. However, I agree with this take. He typically is pretty damn boring compared to many of the hero movies that are out now. Although I freaking loved this new visuals it became a spectacle which detracted from what I thought was a great take on the character.

Had they shortened that last sequence it would have gone a long way for me on improving the film but I would go see a sequel in a heartbeat.

 

[Phrazbit]

This is why I liked the movie. Superman is usually such a boring super hero. Pretty much every movie is him being invincible then coming across some kryptonite then somehow getting away from the kryptonite and being invincible again ending with some anticlimactic conclusion.

Its not so much that he was vulnerable, its that outside of him stopping Zod from incinerating that family, and him saving Lois a few times he showed little regard for innocent bystanders. He is supposed to be this ultimate protector, but in that movie he was a borderline participant in the wanton destruction of the city.

I wouldnt care at all of they made him not so indestructible, but to portray him as a virtual God (and they did in that movie) and then have him almost certainly causing the death of people as he rubs Zod's face at mach 2 along the front of a sky scraper, it was a poor portrayal of the character. And I think most of these things moments of Superman aiding in the death and destruction were done not as some effort to add depth or vulnerability to the character, rather IMO it was just because it made for a cool visual.

 

[crisper57]

Its not so much that he was vulnerable, its that outside of him stopping Zod from incinerating that family, and him saving Lois a few times he showed little regard for innocent bystanders. He is supposed to be this ultimate protector, but in that movie he was a borderline participant in the wanton destruction of the city.

I wouldnt care at all of they made him not so indestructible, but to portray him as a virtual God (and they did in that movie) and then have him almost certainly causing the death of people as he rubs Zod's face at mach 2 along the front of a sky scraper, it was a poor portrayal of the character. And I think most of these things moments of Superman aiding in the death and destruction were done not as some effort to add depth or vulnerability to the character, rather IMO it was just because it made for a cool visual.

Maybe an aging Batman will teach him the value of innocent civilians and make him into more of a true hero. The encounter with Zod was really the first time he got to let loose on an enemy, so maybe it is his immaturity as a hero shining through.

Or maybe it was just a crappy way to have an epic blockbuster fight.

 

[Phrazbit]

Maybe an aging Batman will teach him the value of innocent civilians and make him into more of a true hero. The encounter with Zod was really the first time he got to let loose on an enemy, so maybe it is his immaturity as a hero shining through.

Or maybe it was just a crappy way to have an epic blockbuster fight.

Thats a good call, if they work that into the Batman/Superman story line then I think I can forgive some of the callousness.

If its unaddressed, then yeah, I think it was all just for the spectacle of an epic fight scene.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Thats a good call, if they work that into the Batman/Superman story line then I think I can forgive some of the callousness.

If its unaddressed, then yeah, I think it was all just for the spectacle of an epic fight scene.

i think it will definitely be addressed. the guys who make these movies aren't stupid...the criticism that came from the ending was pretty damn loud...from pretty much everyone. I'll be stunned if the wanton destruction Superman was a part of isn't a major point of contention throughout the movie, with his enemies using it to try and turn people against him/distrusting him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I watched the beginning of this last night...man, they really had something cooking in the first half of the movie and then just overcooked the last hour or so.