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Great interview? Bucher is an idiot. Most people do not break 1M$ income over the span of their entire lives and Bucher goes on about how players must maximize their money in the career because it is short! lol!

They make millions, they can also work after their career if they need to.

And then Bucher goes on about how the NBA has increased revenue. Like that has anything to do with profit or how good the NBA is doing economically. Revenue is meaningless, it is all about profit. What is the point of 100 billion revenue if your expenses have risen even higher..

Worthless interview, waste of time. Save your time and nerves and do not listen to that unless you want to get angered by Buchers non-sense.

Next thing he goes on about how unfair it would be if Derek Rose got injured because he only made 5M$ as a MVP. Wow cry me a river, he had a guaranteed multi-million dollar contract before even playing 1 NBA game. Rookie contracts are more than fair already, because they are guaranteed. Plus he has millions of money in sponsorship deals. If he can't make a great living of just that alone he does not deserve anything more anyway.

And then he goes on about how the Owners are not bargaining in good faith because if they did they would give in to the players demands. Really ? Bargainning in good faith has nothing to do with giving in if you think the demands are unaccaptable. According to Bucher bargainning means that 2 sides have demands and meet in the middle. Really? If my car dealer says he wants $2 Million for that Volkswagen and I say I would pay 20k, I am not bargainning in good faith because I do not offer to pay 500k?

Bucher says the owners should have allowed luxury tax the full exceptions and gotten rid of the severe luxury tax penalty. Basically according to Bucher the teams should just go on with the broken system and reduce BRI because the NBA is so wealthy because revenue is high.

Clearly Bucher has no understanding of how businesses work at all.
 
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Great interview? Bucher is an idiot. Most people do not break 1M$ income over the span of their entire lives and Bucher goes on about how players must maximize their money in the career because it is short! lol!

They make millions, they can also work after their career if they need to.

And then Bucher goes on about how the NBA has increased revenue. Like that has anything to do with profit or how good the NBA is doing economically. Revenue is meaningless, it is all about profit. What is the point of 100 billion revenue if your expenses have risen even higher..

Worthless interview, waste of time.

To each his own, I guess.

His point was right on as far as I'm concerned. Their careers are short, and they do have to maximize their money. Most regular folk are not being hounded as potential "cash cows" at a young age like these players are. The fact of the matter is, the Colleges and the league are seeking these kids at a very young age, not to look out for their best interests, but for theirs. Sure, if they are good, they get paid handsomely. But if they're not, they get put by the wayside and on to the next prospect.
 
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Oh excuse me if I do not feel bad for them. Even if they do not work out as pros that make way more money than any individual human being needs there is nothing that prevents them from pursuing a regular career just like everybody else.
 

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Even if they do not work out as pros that make way more money than any individual human being needs there is nothing that prevents them from pursuing a regular career just like everybody else.

Sure there is: A lack of education.

I don't know how much an aspiring basketball player practices, but suffice to say that I'm sure it's a lot. That pursuit takes time away from other things. We already know that so-called "college athletes" in the major sports have virtually no academic requirements. They don't learn a thing in college besides how to play their sport.

Once their athletic career is over (or if it never gets off the ground), they're now trying to compete against a work force that has, for the most part, actually learned something during their first 22 years. Would you hire an ex-athlete who can't write a single coherent paragraph over someone with a legitimate undergraduate degree? I wouldn't.

Sure, some retired athletes find success as businessmen or television personalities. A few have gone into public service. Another handful are satisfied with low-level jobs. Options are out there. But the typical former athlete is at a severe disadvantage against most of the field.

Of course for someone who makes $10+ million over his career -- never mind that much in a season -- the issue should be moot. With financial planning that is at least borderline competent, that should be plenty.

But for those who gross only a couple million dollars, it's really not that much money for a lifetime. If someone works 40 years for $50,000 per year, that's $2 million, and that's not exactly living on easy street. A lot of college graduates -- I'd guess most, but I haven't seen any data -- have annual salaries higher than that, and yet they still have to budget carefully, fret about retirement, set aside money for their children's education, etc.

Give a recent college graduate $2 million and tell him he'll never work again, and he might be happy for a while. But once he starts to look more carefully at the numbers, he'll realize that his long-term situation really isn't all that appealing.
 

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The NBA should stop putting players in the marketing focus and go back to marketing teams.

It's become such and individual driven sport in terms of star talent. I remember I lived in Memphis for a few years and they had ticket packages based on other teams star players. Like the "Lebron-Kobe-Garnett" package.
 

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Sure there is: A lack of education.

I don't know how much an aspiring basketball player practices, but suffice to say that I'm sure it's a lot. That pursuit takes time away from other things. We already know that so-called "college athletes" in the major sports have virtually no academic requirements. They don't learn a thing in college besides how to play their sport.

That is their own fault then because they are given every opportunity to get an education and there are players who get their degree. They are allowed to attend elite college programs that would never be open to them.

Plus a past as a NBA athlete opens up plenty of doors for other whether that is coaching, scouting, media work or being a personal trainer etc.

It is not like chosing to be a basketball player means that you can't do any other work.

Being given 2 Million sure is appealing. I don't know what the average person makes over the course of their entire lives but it is sure as hell much less than 2 Million and if these players are as dumb as you think ( which I think as well) then they are lucky as hell to get even 2 Million.
 

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That is their own fault then because they are given every opportunity to get an education and there are players who get their degree. They are allowed to attend elite college programs that would never be open to them.

Well, I think these schools are very dependent on those kids. That's why you have all these schools breaking rules in order to nab these kids. Promises of money, promises of special treatment. These schools know the benefits a kid of high talent brings to these programs. Lets not get things twisted, these schools don't care about their education, they care about the exposure and prominence these kids could bring to their programs. So much so, that they are willing to break the rules to get them to commit.
These schools, these agents, and the League all want a piece of them. They really don't bring anything to table, they're just venues that allow an athlete to prosper. The NBA is the only place in the states they can professionally play. Unlike us, they don't have a choice unless they leave their country, or find another profession.
 

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It's become such and individual driven sport in terms of star talent. I remember I lived in Memphis for a few years and they had ticket packages based on other teams star players. Like the "Lebron-Kobe-Garnett" package.

Exactly. The "poor" teams all do that. The best way to optimize their losses is to push the individual players in their packages. Same thing happens with th Clippers. That's what they did pre-griffin. They offered packages of players, not teams. Now? Now we got Griffin so now the Clippers are marketing anything, and everything Blake Griffin.
Sad thing in all of this? Donald Sterling still makes a profit even when he doesn't spend all of the cap, and when 19 games a season.
 

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