Dee Brown released...

[Mainstreet]

So any further news with what's happening with this? Don't we still need to sign a player to reach the league minimum roster?

The Suns have until January 19th to sign a 13th player.

 

[French Fries]

Come on friend, you're not going to allow a soft schedule full of weak centers fool you into believing that we can make it out of the second round of the playoffs are you?

i see your point but there really isn't much centers in the nba, let alone west centers that can overplay shaq. maybe yao. al jeff will score more but shaq will hold his own, biedrins will outrun shaq but shaq will run over him. camby, well, the effort is there but what do you do to make up for the 100 pounds difference? oden, we know what happened to him, right?

i know you're being reasonable about the suns getting a second round exit, but to totally count them out as if it's impossible, have you no faith at all . besides, the west isn't as tough as last year's and the only team "indestructable" in the west right now is the lakers (although we've seen now and then that they're human like us). i personally wouldn't bet my house for a suns title, but i sure as hell wouldn't count them out. the ball is round after all...

 

[SirStefan32]

Not sure if there is any substance behind this but:

From http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/lawrence/?page=1

Oklahoma City is looking to move PG Earl Watson and one of its three No. 1 picks for this June, with Miami and Phoenix as possible destinations.

 

[Griffin]

Not sure if there is any substance behind this but:

From http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/lawrence/?page=1

Oklahoma City is looking to move PG Earl Watson and one of its three No. 1 picks for this June, with Miami and Phoenix as possible destinations.

I sincerely hope there is no truth to that, because the only player we could possibly trade for Watson to make the salaries match is Barbosa.

 

[leclerc]

I sincerely hope there is no truth to that, because the only player we could possibly trade for Watson to make the salaries match is Barbosa.

Would that be a 1st round pick and Earl Watson for Barbosa?

 

[SirStefan32]

I sincerely hope there is no truth to that, because the only player we could possibly trade for Watson to make the salaries match is Barbosa.

I think it would be more about first round pick then about Watson. If they give us their own first round pick, it's much different than Watson for Barbosa straight up. It could also end up involving a third team.

They are also trying to get rid of Wilcox, Collison, or Smith. I'd really like to see Smith here. He would be a really nice backup big man. Problem is again- Suns have nothing to trade other than Barbosa and 2nd round picks.

 

[carey]

There's supposedly a three team trade with Watson on the move. It's between Dallas, Charlotte, and OKC with Felton, Diop, Mohammed, and others on the move.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Diop is a great backup for Okafor, but Im not sure he is worth moving Felton, May and Mohammad... even if they get watson back as well. I'd much rather keep Felton and tell May/Mohammad to kick it into gear.

 

[carey]

Diop is a great backup for Okafor, but Im not sure he is worth moving Felton, May and Mohammad... even if they get watson back as well. I'd much rather keep Felton and tell May/Mohammad to kick it into gear.

I agree in principle. We know that Brown isn't really a master motivator though. He quits on his players constantly and would much rather trade for another player than motivate an exisitng player.

 

[Covert Rain]

Any word yet if they are going to resign Brown or go in another direction?

 

[Mainstreet]

Any word yet if they are going to resign Brown or go in another direction?

Nada. I just think the Suns are waiting for someone to become available before the February training deadline and will probably use 10 day contracts to bridge the gap. I don't think the Suns have to sign a 13th player until January 19th. They can then use a player from the tryout list possibly even Dee Brown again.

Some think a backup PG is just another player on the bench that won't get minutes. To me, as I view it, it is the Suns primary chance to rest Nash both now and in the playoffs. PG by committee or LB has not worked for the past 5 seasons. I've seen a tired Steve Nash and it doesn't work.

The Suns need a veteran PG that can still play. IMO, signing Dee Brown to a guaranteed contract is throwing in the towel for a possible run in the playoffs.

 

[Covert Rain]

Nada. I just think the Suns are waiting for someone to become available before the February training deadline and will probably use 10 day contracts to bridge the gap. I don't think the Suns have to sign a 13th player until January 19th. They can then use a player from the tryout list possibly even Dee Brown again.

Some think a backup PG is just another player on the bench that won't get minutes. To me, as I view it, it is the Suns primary chance to rest Nash both now and in the playoffs. PG by committee or LB has not worked for the past 5 seasons. I've seen a tired Steve Nash and it doesn't work.

The Suns need a veteran PG that can still play. IMO, signing Dee Brown to a guaranteed contract is throwing in the towel for a possible run in the playoffs.

Cool. Have not been listening to talk radio or reports. Sounds like we have another week to go before something probably happens.

 

[Andrew]

Go back to Shaq having under developed muscles or whatever, I never heard about that, what?

 

[Covert Rain]

Go back to Shaq having under developed muscles or whatever, I never heard about that, what?

When the Suns first evaluated him during a physical, the training staff said they felt some of Shaqs physical problems were because he had a weak core (meaning some of his supporting muscles were undersized). They felt that was leading to many of his physical problems.

That was also probably the main reason the Suns pulled the trigger. The training staff felt like if they could build certain muscles it could alleviate some of his issues and prolong his career. That's all the Suns needed to hear.

 

[nowagimp]

When the Suns first evaluated him during a physical, the training staff said they felt some of Shaqs physical problems were because he had a weak core (meaning some of his supporting muscles were undersized). They felt that was leading to many of his physical problems.

Yep, the core is key to being quick on the feet. Shaqs taking up martial arts training is all about the core strengthening and flexibility. All martial arts start at the core, without the core you have squat. Shaq with a strong core is a pretty scary concept for the opposition.

 

[cubsfan162512]

now that Dee's gone time for the suns to go after livingston

 

[LV-Suns]

The probable outcome with the Suns' vacant 13th roster spot is that Dee Brown will be re-signed. They might wait until Monday's deadline to add him. The Suns had interest in Shaun Livingston, but it appears he is leaning toward a return to Miami, which had waived him to avoid a fully guaranteed deal.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/01/13/20090113sunsnbrich0114.html

 

[Irish]

Unless somebody new gets released, I'd think Dee is going to return for another 10 day deal.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Lots of planning goes into securing mediocrity at bottom dollar. Well played, Kerr.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lots of planning goes into securing mediocrity at bottom dollar. Well played, Kerr.

I agree if that is where it stops. However, I believe the Suns could sign Dee Brown for one or two more 10 day contracts while still looking for another PG. I know, I'm just hoping against the obvious.

Anyway just totally banking on signing Livingston with the default Dee Brown is a total cop out. Right now those two players are considered a reach to help any NBA team let alone provide a backup for Nash (although I would have liked to look at Livingston). At the beginning of the season I thought Kerr was serious about providing Nash with a veteran PG with a player like Lue.

Mediocrity does reign when the Championship window is near shut.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is an interesting tidbit about Shaun Livingston's status in an article written
by Ira Winderman | South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

Not so fast

While a report out of Phoenix said guard Shaun Livingston is leaning toward a reunion with the Heat, possibly on a 10-day contract, Livingston is banned from rejoining the Heat for at least a month from last week's trade to Memphis, which immediately released him. ...

It seems someone has the ten contract issue wrong. Could it be Livingston is going to wait a month before he signs with the Heat?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-flspheatnote15sbjan15,0,617858.story

 

[Griffin]

According to Coro, the Suns are no longer looking for a backup point guard.

Steve Kerr: "Goran (Dragic) has played well in practice and he's earned the right to be the backup point guard"

The Suns instead may bring in a big man from the D-League to fill the final roster spot.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/01/18/20090118sunsaddition.html

 

[Mainstreet]

According to Coro, the Suns are no longer looking for a backup point guard.

Steve Kerr: "Goran (Dragic) has played well in practice and he's earned the right to be the backup point guard"

The Suns instead may bring in a big man from the D-League to fill the final roster spot.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/01/18/20090118sunsaddition.html

I wonder if the Suns could ultimately get a veteran big man with a second round pick. I'm thinking of a player like Brian Skinner of the Clippers. Too bad the Suns did not bring him back. I'm not knocking the NBADL but can't the Suns do better?

LB, you have to be the man at PG even though it diminishes your game (IMO).

 

[carey]

Steve Kerr: "Goran (Dragic) has played well in practice and he's earned the right to be the backup point guard"

Huh.

 

[Mainstreet]

Huh.

The Dragic comments are pure spin. If Kerr thinks Dragic is ready, he should tell Porter to play him. Playing well in practice does not always translate into playing well in a game.