Devin Booker is the greatest player EVER in Suns history

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7 teams to notch 40+ on everyone. Would love to see him accomplish that. Atlanta, Toronto, Miami, Charlotte, Detroit, Brooklyn, and the lone western squad Golden State.
That Toronto score needs to go up for sure!
 

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i haven't read through this thread but the only way to make the case for Booker being the "greatest Sun" is to heavily consider his accumulative stat totals in points over his decade here because the results of his tenure was mostly leading the Suns to the bottom of the NBA rankings, 2 horrific playoff endings, and the 3rd -- one good run with CP3 as our MVP.

but amidst all the talk of dumping players, the talking media heads in AZ still stay clear of offering up the face of the franchise -- for that reason

Beal is the fall guy but statistically, Beal's shooting percentage from 2 and 3 is close to Durant's and Booker is significantly behind them both. Also, Beal's defensive score is better. Booker has more assists because he has the ball more, they both have the same turnover rate, and Beal is ahead in all the other departments like rebounds and steals.

Bud needs to call the shots. And give Beal more of a shot.
 

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and Durant is a better value than Book. Better to keep Durant and Beal and add a closer than be stuck long term with Book on a super max wanting the final shots but tanking them in the final 2 minutes of games.

i know that sounds harsh. but you know what sounds harsher? paying him 53 million per year and he doesn't even look happy to be here any more
 

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and Durant is a better value than Book. Better to keep Durant and Beal and add a closer than be stuck long term with Book on a super max wanting the final shots but tanking them in the final 2 minutes of games.

i know that sounds harsh. but you know what sounds harsher? paying him 53 million per year and he doesn't even look happy to be here any more

Durant is better than Book and Beal. However, Durant is at the end of his career and I think you will see him fall off the cliff similar to CP3. Then what? All you will have is Beal…Mr. Glass?!? No thank you.

Having said that if the Suns can’t get another tier 1 star next to Book it’s pointless keeping him. Trade him for a ton of assets and rebuild. I don’t want to see Book languishing through a last huge contract if Ishbia can’t give him a legit number one to play beside him after this Durant experiment is done.
 

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i'm good with blowing it up, rather than languish with these huge salaries.

but during the game they just showed a stat of Jones being the #1 clutch shooter of 3's and that's the opposite of Booker. So what do we really need Booker to do for 53 million per, if not clutch shooting? We don't need his defense either.

you could say we need him for general scoring. He will give us points. But the reality is that he's shooting no better than an average team's shooting percentage. So, by playing team ball, and getting better shots, we'd do just as well without him -- or better.

we could get 2 productive years out of Durant and saddle him with someone that gives us something we need. Then rebuild in 2 years. Booker's a dead end. His window closed when Chris Paul's did.
 

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and Durant is a better value than Book. Better to keep Durant and Beal and add a closer than be stuck long term with Book on a super max wanting the final shots but tanking them in the final 2 minutes of games.

i know that sounds harsh. but you know what sounds harsher? paying him 53 million per year and he doesn't even look happy to be here any more

Durant has a fraction of Booker's value... and if we trade Booker Durant would demand a trade.
 

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Durant has a fraction of Booker's value... and if we trade Booker Durant would demand a trade.

that's the old book on Book. He's not the young buck with a lot of upside potential any more. He's been tested, his flaws are known and exploited, he's no longer a franchise player, and he's saddled with a salary that's a load in any GM's pants.

Durant can still give a team 35 to 40 on any night he wants to because he can still get off a good shot on any defender. And anyone who thinks Durant doesn't now know the downside of playing alongside Booker rather than someone that's a better fit, is not reading those tea leaves either.

Booker + Durant is a failure. Beal only adds to the dysfunction. I guarantee if he wasn't afraid of being called a quitter again, Durant would relish another change -- in team or in a partner.
 

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that's the old book on Book. He's not the young buck with a lot of upside potential any more. He's been tested, his flaws are known and exploited, he's no longer a franchise player, and he's saddled with a salary that's a load in any GM's pants.

Durant can still give a team 35 to 40 on any night he wants to because he can still get off a good shot on any defender. And anyone who thinks Durant doesn't now know the downside of playing alongside Booker rather than someone that's a better fit, is not reading those tea leaves either.

Booker + Durant is a failure. Beal only adds to the dysfunction. I guarantee if he wasn't afraid of being called a quitter again, Durant would relish another change -- in team or in a partner.

I don’t think Durant is worried about being called a quitter.

He’s 36, he can’t stay healthy, his contract is so big that no real contender can even trade for him.

He has a fraction of Booker’s value and i unequivocally guarantee that he won’t play even one second more for this team if Booker were traded.

And I read these tea leaves years ago when I said trading for Durant was a colossal mistake.
 

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I don’t think Durant is worried about being called a quitter.

He’s 36, he can’t stay healthy, his contract is so big that no real contender can even trade for him.

He has a fraction of Booker’s value and i unequivocally guarantee that he won’t play even one second more for this team if Booker were traded.

And I read these tea leaves years ago when I said trading for Durant was a colossal mistake.

i did believe trading for Durant was a mistake, and, indeed, what we gave up was a big mistake, but, overall, he's been healthier than i imagined and more valuable (and mature, which i value). He knows the score. i totally believe he has no more illusions about playing with Booker

and any cold-calculating GM looking to win now would take Durant for 2 years over Booker for 4 in a heartbeat

i also believe Ishbia would concur, but based on his eagerness to please the community, i don't believe he'd pull the trigger on a Booker trade for fear of dashing fan's delusions. The evidence is clear. The homegrown fandom is hard to shake.
 

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i did believe trading for Durant was a mistake, and, indeed, what we gave up was a big mistake, but, overall, he's been healthier than i imagined and more valuable (and mature, which i value). He knows the score. i totally believe he has no more illusions about playing with Booker

Mature in what way? Going back and forth with analysts in the press? How bout when he got in some fans faces on the sideline? Should I even mention his social media usage? What sort of blinders do you have on?

On court he doesn't care. He throws lazy passes whenever he does pass. He'll force bad shots because he can't throw a pass. He quit midgame vs Dallas last year on Christmas day. He routinely will cost us a few possessions by going at guys in an attempt to make highlights, whether it be trying to dunk on Wemby last year or how he got bickering with Russ this year on Christmas and was trying to go play for play with him.

I don't believe I've ever heard someone call KD mature so please elaborate on what maturity you've witnessed.
 
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