Did Quan run any reverses or throw the ball last year?

[vikesfan]

Did Quan run any reverses or throw the ball last year?

Moss actually had some success when throwing the ball in Minne on trick plays.

 

[100%CardsFan]

Yes, 1 time I remember and it was an INT

 

[schel]

It sucks when our best receiver is throwing it. His choices were Gilmore and Bryant Johnson Ok, I'm not hating on Johnson... it's just that he dropped a lot of passes.

 

[kerouac9]

According to ESPN.com, Anquan had 5 rushes for 40 yards and a long of 23. I assume that these were "end arounds".

The one time he attempted a pass, it was a pick.

I think he still has a higher NFL QB Rating than Ryan Leaf, though.

 

[vikesfan]

LOL! I think my little sister has a higer rating then Leaf.

 

[pinnacle]

on the pass quan threw....it did not work the one time - I do not remember which game it was. As I recall....the defenders read it from the beginning...and the corners and safety stayed back...and the receiver was well covered....it looked like quan looked downfield...and was rather shocked that everyone stayed back...in a moment of weakness he just heaved the ball up..the receiver was clearly covered. In hindsight - he could have taken off running earlier and gotten a decent gain...I was thinking the next time it happens he will take off running if in the same situation..but it never happened again...we should have tried it another time at least....

 

[Ryanwb]

There hasn't been a true reverse run in the NFL in years. I hate it when announcers incorrectly identify a play as a reverse.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Ryanwb
There hasn't been a true reverse run in the NFL in years. I hate it when announcers incorrectly identify a play as a reverse.

No, real reverses are run maybe 5 times a season. For some reason, I remember Washington running one this year. I think that Pittsburgh tends to run some reverses with Ward, Randle-El, and Zeroue.

The problem is that a lot of teams don't really have the personnel to run the reverse. You have to have an RB who is a threat to get around the corner (the Cards don't, and most teams don't really), an O-line that can run enough to keep safeties and corners out of the backfield (Duh), and a WR quick enough to get up to speed in time to be able to out-run defenders closing out their side of the field.

Quan threw the pick either against the Ravens (I think it was this game) or against the Niners. He definately had room to pick up at least a 5-yard gain if he'd pulled down the ball. It didn't look like a very polished play.

 

[vikesfan]

What is a true reverse?

 

[Ryanwb]

Originally posted by kerouac9
No, real reverses are run maybe 5 times a season. For some reason, I remember Washington running one this year. I think that Pittsburgh tends to run some reverses with Ward, Randle-El, and Zeroue.

Oh, I had read an article a few years ago calling out the NFL commentators for calling any play that was the QB giving the ball to another player and then that player giving the ball to another a "reverse". The article said a team hadn't run a true reverse for a long time, I guess with the speed of today's defensive players it is nearly impossible unless you have two really quick guys.

 

[Ryanwb]

Originally posted by vikesfan
What is a true reverse?

The ball must change directions completely 2 times. I won't explain it because I will mess it up

 

[Brian in Mesa]

BTW: In an ESPN interview, just after the Vikings win, they were talking with McCown and Boldin and pointed out that Boldin started playing football as a quarterback and later was switched to wide receiver.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by vikesfan
What is a true reverse?

A true reverse is when the QB gets the ball, and then hands the ball off to the running back. The offensive line blocks as if it were a sweep. The running back runs ----> that way toward the sideline. At the same time, the outside wideout runs <---- this way deeper in the backfield than the runningback. The tailback hands the ball off to the wideout, who takes advantage of his speed and the over-pursuing defenenders to get around the corner and (hopefully) score a TD.

The end around is where the QB fakes to the tailback going either up the middle to to the outside, but insteads hands off to the WR coming from the outside. Many teams fake the end around, but then hand the ball off to the RB for real. The Titans are a team that does this all the time, but the Redskins did this a lot against the Cards in Week 1 of the 2002 season, and Sully did this during the pre-season. You essentially have to set up the defense and eventually run the end around when the D is immured to the fake.

Part of the downfall of the end-around and reverse is that defenses are more disciplined now, and there's almost always someone sitting on the opposite side of the field. I'm surprises that no one ran it on the Cards. I guess that no WR wanted to get hit by my boy Levar Fisher.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Brian in Mesa
BTW: In an ESPN interview, just after the Vikings win, they were talking with McCown and Boldin and pointed out that Boldin started playing football as a quarterback and later was switched to wide receiver.

Boldin was recruited to Florida State as a QB and switched because the team needed a WR. I think he played to Cotton Bowl or something at QB because Rix was drunk (or something).

 

[vikesfan]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Boldin was recruited to Florida State as a QB and switched because the team needed a WR. I think he played to Cotton Bowl or something at QB because Rix was drunk (or something).

He actually played as a QB? What were his stats?

The Vikes tried plenty of end arounds this year and they got stuffed on just about everyone. Guess they didn't get the memo. Argh!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by vikesfan
He actually played as a QB? What were his stats?

Holy mackerel - he didn't just "play" qb in high school - he set records!! (Not really too surprised, this is Quan after all...)

Attended Pahokee (Fla.) High … Regarded as one of the top prospects in the country by nearly every recruiting publication … USA Today first-team selection and the Florida Player of the Year … First-team Class 3A all-state player who was named Florida's Mr. Football … SuperPrep's No. 1 skilled athlete and No. 1 prospect nationally … Gatorade Circle of Champions High School Football Player of the Year for Florida (overall athletic and academic excellence) … Rated the top player in the state by the St. Petersburg Times, Tampa Tribune and Gainesville Sun … Named to the PrepStar Dream Team and listed as the No. 2 athlete in the nation … Completed 133 of 233 passes for 2,482 yards and 36 touchdowns as a senior … Also rushed for 1,497 yards and 20 touchdowns … Nabbed 4 interceptions on defense … Set a state of Florida record with 11,433 total yards in his career.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by vikesfan
He actually played as a QB? What were his stats?

The Vikes tried plenty of end arounds this year and they got stuffed on just about everyone. Guess they didn't get the memo. Argh!

His last season, he played in 14 games, 7 of 16 for 111 and a TD.