Do owners ever pay players under the table?

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Any thoughts? Could a guy like Allen in Seattle, or Snyder, or whoever circumvent the cap by just basically giving him cash on the side in addition to his contract?
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
Any thoughts? Could a guy like Allen in Seattle, or Snyder, or whoever circumvent the cap by just basically giving him cash on the side in addition to his contract?

It could happen.

I mean, you guys do get the same free parking passes and food certificates that I do as enticement to attend Cardinals' home games, right? ;)
 

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If they did and the players didn't report the extra income, they would be spending time in the ole hoosegow.
 

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Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark when they were with the 49ers were charged and found guilty of this
 

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If you were a college recruit for Colorado, they gave you something else under the table :shock:
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
If you were a college recruit for Colorado, they gave you something else under the table :shock:

:biglaugh:

Going to colorado is like old time baseball players...they always had two jobs under their belt.

Reminds me of one of the police academy movies....where under the podium.....
 

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Snyder doesn't need to pay under the table. The guy handed out $50 million above board in signing bonuses alone this week.

Remember when bidding for free agents the player is guarenteed the bonus, but they lose the salary part if they get cut. So Snyder just outbids everyone by paying huge chunks of the contract in bonus money instead of that risky salary stuff. Then the players don't do diddly squat on the field during the season. 'Cause they already got paid, see? They could care less if they get cut.

Yep. Snyder's got the perfect formula for buying a losing record every year.
 
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The NFL has become a game of value, especially considering the money involved. Turning Preston Parons into a commodity is value. The Iggles turning AJ Feeley (5th round pick) into a second round pick is value.
Eric Crouch running for an occasional first down on some crazy flanker reverse or direct snap shennanigan is not value, especially considering the roster spot (only, what, 48 guys dress on Sundays?) and the extra practice devoted to a handful of plays for one guy.
If he could return punts or kickoffs it would be one thing, but he already showed that he isn't comfortable doing that, and the PR/KR guys need to be fearless, instinctive and very smart with their decisions.

There's always a chance I guess. His best shot at success in the NFL is a specialty weapon, like Dennis Green had in Amp Lee at one point. Dude caught 71 balls out of the backfield (only 69 rushes) and was a dangerous tool. Crouch could similar I suppose. But I doubt it at this point.
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
Any thoughts? Could a guy like Allen in Seattle, or Snyder, or whoever circumvent the cap by just basically giving him cash on the side in addition to his contract?

Yes it is known as personnal services contracts. one example is that Lomas Brown was promised a parking garage contract for his company if he signed with Cleveland Browns. Guess where lomas signed.

I think that the so called salary cap is a joke, and Mr. B. is one of the only owners in the NFL who plays by those rules. I applaud him for being so honest; but we as fans are getting cheated by owners like Snyder, Allen, and others who think that the rule are made to be stretched.

Allan
 

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Snyder doesn't have to. He does it out in the open any team can do what he does.

After he signed with WASH Portis said about 100 NFL players called him cause they want to get to Washington and want to know all the details.

You can beat the cap Snyder does it every year. No need to go under the table at all.
 

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Originally posted by vikesfan
Snyder doesn't have to. He does it out in the open any team can do what he does.

After he signed with WASH Portis said about 100 NFL players called him cause they want to get to Washington and want to know all the details.

You can beat the cap Snyder does it every year. No need to go under the table at all.


Sapp a Redskin It is getting reported that Dan Snyder has opened up his wallet again and inked Sapp to a 5 year 33 mil contract.

And you were saying...????

The Salary Cap is a figment of Snyders Imagination... to him it doesn't exist. There should be an inquiry by the NFL into this matter. The playing field is not even as Tag's wants you to think it is. Parity is a joke when it comes to "THE NFL SALARY CAP!!!"


Allan:stupid: :thumbup: :wave:
 

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Originally posted by Bobcat
Sapp a Redskin It is getting reported that Dan Snyder has opened up his wallet again and inked Sapp to a 5 year 33 mil contract.

And you were saying...????

The Salary Cap is a figment of Snyders Imagination... to him it doesn't exist. There should be an inquiry by the NFL into this matter. The playing field is not even as Tag's wants you to think it is. Parity is a joke when it comes to "THE NFL SALARY CAP!!!"


Allan:stupid: :thumbup: :wave:

Actually the cap is in full effect if you would look at all of the players he has signed this year everyone will have a base salary this year at the vet minimum with there salaries getting bigger and bigger over the life of the contract, he can do this becuaae he has huge ockets and can py them big upfront money. If you look at the contracts you could see why he has been able to sign everyone.
 

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The Redskins got in huge trouble a couple of years ago for buying Dana Stubblefield a luxury car.

The NFL is vigilant about this. Teams would be pretty silly to try since there are legal ways to pay'em plenty.
 

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Mark my words.....this season will put the Skins into a hole that they will never get out of.........if any one of these FA's get hurt (God forbid, more than one) and you can kiss Snyder's sweet a$$ goodbye.

First you take out Brunell......which is entirely possible....he is a little brittle,

then Portis.....and watch the house of cards come down.

Make no mistake about it, every team will have their eyes focused on making a mockery of this team......I can't wait!
 

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