Do we NEED a bridge QB? Why?

Sign a Bridge QB?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 27 77.1%
  • No.

    Votes: 8 22.9%

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DVontel

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I keep seeing some of our fans say that we need a bridge QB like Alex Smith or Case Keenum once we draft a QB. Why? I think signing a vet while the rookie QB sits on the bench is just a big waste of everyone’s time.” None of the draftable QBs aren’t NFL ready” you can say that for almost every QB coming out ever. You can’t work on your timing, awareness, etc just by sitting on the bench. Use that money for the OLine instead of bringing in a vet. I think the rookie should start from day 1.


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It depends on who we draft. Although there are a few QBs that are NFL ready, the majority aren't anywhere close.

The difference between the college game and the NFL is growing larger all the time (simplified spread offenses, gimmicks,etc). Some QBs have never even taken a snap from center. You don't want to rush someone that isn't ready yet as you can cause them more harm than needed (both physical and mental)

It also doesn't harm them in any way
 

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It depends on the player but generally you should play him at some point early on. Unless he'd get his brains beat in behind the OL which is a possibility here.
 

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nope.

sign a capable vet backup who can step in a bit if the rookie gets overwhelmed
 

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Just remember that everyone thought deshaun Watson wasn't NFL ready either. I'd like to pick up a bridge QB and stash a QB from the upcoming draft.
 

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It really depends on the rookie and the type of team you are fielding. Playoff team with bridge QB, you let the rookie get some time to learn. Rebuild - depends on the rookie. You certainly don't want to rush out a rookie and ruin them. Deshone Kizer needed at least 1 year of development (maybe 2). Desahun Watson was amazing from Day 1.

Bottom line - each rookie/situation is different.
 

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I keep seeing some of our fans say that we need a bridge QB like Alex Smith or Case Keenum once we draft a QB. Why? I think signing a vet while the rookie QB sits on the bench is just a big waste of everyone’s time.” None of the draftable QBs aren’t NFL ready” you can say that for almost every QB coming out ever. You can’t work on your timing, awareness, etc just by sitting on the bench. Use that money for the OLine instead of bringing in a vet. I think the rookie should start from day 1.


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I agree... hopefully we sign a coach who knows how to develop a young QB. A coach who will start the kid with a choice of plays that compliment what he does well,...then add to the playbook and what you ask of the kid as his abilities and confidence grow.

plus.. we all know there arent enough snaps to go around once the season starts...so a young guys development basically gets put on hold until the next camp...not good.
 

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Another point. Whether you call it a bridge QB or just a veteran back-up...you need a QB that has experience on your roster.

This won't be a popular comment but if the Browns take a QB in rd 1 this year, I would trade for Kizer (conditional 3rd). I am not saying he is the QBOF but there is too much talent there not to try and develop it (with the right coach and OC).

On thing that has really changed in AZ: We are now considered a stable progressive franchise. Our foundation and culture can help develop young players and is seen as a solid destination for veterans.
 

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Another point. Whether you call it a bridge QB or just a veteran back-up...you need a QB that has experience on your roster.

This won't be a popular comment but if the Browns take a QB in rd 1 this year, I would trade for Kizer (conditional 3rd). I am not saying he is the QBOF but there is too much talent there not to try and develop it (with the right coach and OC).

On thing that has really changed in AZ: We are now considered a stable progressive franchise. Our foundation and culture can help develop young players and is seen as a solid destination for veterans.
or...clevelands GM can trade for Alex Smith just like he did in KC...and Smith can bring the leadership they need while Kizer sits behind him for a few years.
then cleveland drafts Saquon Barkley and the top OT in the draft.
 

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or...clevelands GM can trade for Alex Smith just like he did in KC...and Smith can bring the leadership they need while Kizer sits behind him for a few years.
then cleveland drafts Saquon Barkley and the top OT in the draft.
I don't see Kizer becommig a franchise qb. However, they could trade for Alex Smith and draft either Darnold or Rosen who could sit for a year and take over in 2019. Browns have several options with lots of picks in 2018 draft.
 

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I don't see Kizer becommig a franchise qb. However, they could trade for Alex Smith and draft either Darnold or Rosen who could sit for a year and take over in 2019. Browns have several options with lots of picks in 2018 draft.

I dont either. the knock on Kizer before the draft was he should have stayed in school another year...so they knew he was raw and immature when they drafted him. If they still see potential then fine... Smith still has about 4 more years in him so if Kizer dont develop they have time to find another....
they do need a franchise LT... Joe Thomas is 33 and has already contemplated retirement... if they trade for Smith they have an opportunity to be competitive right away and their draft should reflect that IMO
but like you say,...never hurts to hedge their bets with another young guy... guess it depends on what Reid bilks out of them for Smith.
 

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regardless of who you draft, you need a mentor. Free agency starts before the draft so you ABSOLUTELY get a vet in FA otherwise you are going into the draft forcing your hand to take a QB even if all the good ones get snapped up.
 

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Just remember that everyone thought deshaun Watson wasn't NFL ready either. I'd like to pick up a bridge QB and stash a QB from the upcoming draft.

Are you trying to say Watson wasn't NFL ready? That's what it sounds like, as you say you do want the bridge QB and to bench a young drafted QB. Perhaps you don't realize that Watson had begun playing quite well before a freak practice injury.
 

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Are you trying to say Watson wasn't NFL ready? That's what it sounds like, as you say you do want the bridge QB and to bench a young drafted QB. Perhaps you don't realize that Watson had begun playing quite well before a freak practice injury.
I think he was saying....nobody thought Watson was NFL ready either,... but look how well he performed...thus...pundits are often dead wrong..

at least thats how I took it
 

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As much hate as there has been for Stanton, personally I'm undecided as to whether re-signing him is the better idea of going after Keenum/Smith/Bridgewater. They all are who they are... Interim.
 

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If BA was still here, I think they would resign Stanton. IMO the new coach and Keim will decide what QB they want to sign. Stanton may not fit the system of the new HC.
 

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Are you trying to say Watson wasn't NFL ready? That's what it sounds like, as you say you do want the bridge QB and to bench a young drafted QB. Perhaps you don't realize that Watson had begun playing quite well before a freak practice injury.

I'm saying when Watson was drafted everyone thought he needed to sit awhile. My point being is that college QBs can start immediately and play really well. I think it's the exception and not the rule though. Ideally I'd like to sign a bridge and draft and stash.
 

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As much hate as there has been for Stanton, personally I'm undecided as to whether re-signing him is the better idea of going after Keenum/Smith/Bridgewater. They all are who they are... Interim.
I would take most anyone over him, I have no faith in him being anything for us.
 
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