Do you think Kirk or Andy get moved during the draft?

[QuebecCard]

Why does anyone think we have so much depth at WR that we would want to dump one or both?
Even if we draft a WR high, our only other viable WR's are Hopkins and Kirk. Isabella is garbage and Johnson is just a body.
Where is the rest of our depth? Especially for a team that runs the multi WR sets that we do.

There's a guy who signed a $6m - 1-yr deal: A.J. Green.

 

[Finito]

no one wants isabella. Kirk can play.

He pretty much single handily cost us 2 games last year. Dropped two passes in the end zone in two one score games and let’s not even talking about pulling up when he had a TD on that end around

 

[Harry]

No; no demand.

 

[AZ Native]

I just don’t get why people still think Isabella has any value and that people would trade any pick for him.

It is a reach.

 

[Solar7]

No team is trading for either guy.

Isabella isn't getting anything in a trade even if we sent along assets.

Kirk would net a lot less than keeping him on the roster would.

 

[az jam]

Nope

 

[GatorAZ]

Kirk is going to have a great year in the slot but I’m against paying him beyond his rookie deal. I’m game dealing him because of the latter.

 

[gmabel830]

I’d be shocked if anyone offered us any more than like a 6th round pick for Kirk. No one is offering anything for Isabella.


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[BigRedRage]

He pretty much single handily cost us 2 games last year. Dropped two passes in the end zone in two one score games and let’s not even talking about pulling up when he had a TD on that end around

I haven't given up faith. Maybe it'll be justin bethel all over again but we'll see.

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[TRW]

Nope.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I'm more sure than ever that we go WR in the 1st round. The only way we go CB is if Surtain or Horn is there & it's very doubtful they will be. If we stay at 16, we go WR. If we trade down, it could be a RB.

All signs are pointing to us taking Collins if the top WR's & CB's are gone at #16.

 

[PACardsFan]

All signs are pointing to us taking Collins if the top WR's & CB's are gone at #16.

That’s what is being rumored this morning. By mid afternoon, that may change again.

 

[Proximo]

Kirk
Isabella (a team would likely prefer him to another 6th round player)
Devon Kennard

Devon Kennard has negative value. His salary is way way too high for his production.

I have no idea why the Cards have not already cut him.

 

[Totally_Red]

Doubtful they get moved unless one of the big 3 falls to #16. They have more 'value' to the Cardinals than they would to any acquired.

 

[Proximo]

I'm more sure than ever that we go WR in the 1st round. The only way we go CB is if Surtain or Horn is there & it's very doubtful they will be. If we stay at 16, we go WR. If we trade down, it could be a RB.

We are not going WR at 16 unless miraculously one of the top 3 are still there - They won't be.

We need to trade down.

 

[Chopper0080]

Devon Kennard has negative value. His salary is way way too high for his production.

I have no idea why the Cards have not already cut him.

He is a veteran player with a good work ethic and experience in multiple schemes. His cost is 6 mil for a team trading for him and they can cut him next year with zero penalty. There is value in that.

 

[Proximo]

He is a veteran player with a good work ethic and experience in multiple schemes. His cost is 6 mil for a team trading for him and they can cut him next year with zero penalty. There is value in that.

Really? The cards wouldn't even play him at the end of the year he was so bad.

6 million dollar players that can't get snaps are by definition overpaid.

 

[Chopper0080]

Same goes with Andy Isabella. Eagles may not want a room full of rookies and figure a 6th round pick for Isabella (who they may have had a higher grade on) is better than Jaelon Darden in round 6. Teams with 10 or 11 picks can struggle to find players who will be able to stick or will fill out their position rooms in the way they prefer.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Devon Kennard has negative value. His salary is way way too high for his production.

I have no idea why the Cards have not already cut him.

made zero sense to keep him at his salary and let Reddick go for the same amount.

 

[Chopper0080]

Really? The cards wouldn't even play him at the end of the year he was so bad.

6 million dollar players that can't get snaps are by definition overpaid.

FA is over. Teams are only going to use so much of their remaining cap space. Bengals, Jets, Jags, Colts may prefer a vet who they do not have to commit to long-term but can fill a role immediately over Shaka Toney in round 6.

 

[Proximo]

made zero sense to keep him at his salary and let Reddick go for the same amount.

Well I will agree I would rather have Reddick over Kennard - but there is dead money associated with Kennard, so it's not really equivalent cap wise.

The only reason I can come up with why he is still on the team is Keim just doesn't want to admit what a terrible signing it was by cutting him after one year.

 

[BritCard]

FA is over. Teams are only going to use so much of their remaining cap space. Bengals, Jets, Jags, Colts may prefer a vet who they do not have to commit to long-term but can fill a role immediately over Shaka Toney in round 6.

I don't think Keim is finished adding vets.

I fully expect Kennard to be a post June 1st designation cut to free up space. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is they want to see how the draft plays out.

 

[Proximo]

FA is over. Teams are only going to use so much of their remaining cap space. Bengals, Jets, Jags, Colts may prefer a vet who they do not have to commit to long-term but can fill a role immediately over Shaka Toney in round 6.

Nobody even has cap room to trade for him.

There is seriously zero chance he gets traded.

 

[PACardsFan]

We are not going WR at 16 unless miraculously one of the top 3 are still there - They won't be.

We need to trade down.

When you factor in 5 QB’s, a stud TE, a couple of stud CB’s, 3 WR’s, a couple of OL, a couple of LB’s, then anything can happen. I’m not opposed to a trade down at all, but you still have to find a willing partner.

 

[Proximo]

Kirk is going to have a great year in the slot but I’m against paying him beyond his rookie deal. I’m game dealing him because of the latter.

I tend to agree unless he's cheap.

He's an OK number 3, but so are half the guys you can draft in the third round any year.

I feel like if we did trade him a late 4th is about the best we could get - and that's only if somebody thinks there is no receiver still available that is better than him. I don't really think it's going to make sense to trade him since we need him this season still.