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Inside Dish: Dodgers looking at major shakeup

Ken Rosenthal


The Dodgers have won 22 of their past 29 games, taking a 2 1/2-game lead in the NL West. Yet Paul DePodesta, their first-year GM, appears on the verge of giving the team a major facelift.


With less than 24 hours remaining until the non-waiver trade deadline, DePodesta continues to work on three-way deals that could land the Dodgers either Diamondbacks lefthander Randy Johnson or center fielder Steve Finley — both of whom could quash any deal by invoking their no-trade protection.

The Dodgers, multiple sources confirm, have discussed sending catcher Paul Lo Duca, reliever Guillermo Mota and outfielder Juan Encarnacion to the Marlins and outfielder Jayson Werth and prospects to the Diamondbacks. Their initial return could include Finley and Marlins righthander Brad Penny. Another option would be to include Penny in a package for Johnson.

Johnson reportedly has rejected any trade to the Dodgers, preferring to be sent to the Yankees. Finley is adamant about remaining in center field — a potential sticking point, because the Dodgers would want to keep Milton Bradley in center and move Finley to a corner-outfield position.

If one of the trades gets done, other questions would arise.

The Dodgers would lose their heart and soul if they traded Lo Duca, a clubhouse leader who is batting .301 this season with 10 homers and 49 RBIs. They also would lose perhaps the game's most valuable setup man if they traded Mota, who represents insurance for closer Eric Gagne and is under the team's control through 2006.

Then again, Finley and Penny would represent major additions, Johnson the biggest addition of all. The Dodgers would need to find a catcher, and they're talking to the Rockies about Charles Johnson, whom they traded to the Orioles in Dec. 1998. The danger is that the end result might not be better than the team that currently has the third-best record in baseball.

Most general managers wouldn't dare tinker with the chemistry of such a club, but DePodesta, a former assistant to A's general manager Billy Beane, is a new-age GM who values statistical analysis over intangibles that only can be measured subjectively. He's ready to risk it all. He's ready to blow up a first-place team.
 
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Djaughe said:
....Most general managers wouldn't dare tinker with the chemistry of such a club, but DePodesta, a former assistant to A's general manager Billy Beane, is a new-age GM who values statistical analysis over intangibles that only can be measured subjectively. He's ready to risk it all. He's ready to blow up a first-place team.
Sounds like a fantasy leaguer to me....
 
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Lo Duca could be headed out of Los Angeles



By Tony Jackson
Staff writer




DENVER — It now appears more likely than ever that Dodgers catcher Paul Lo Duca will be traded before Saturday's non-waiver deadline.



Lo Duca, according to various baseball sources, continues to draw serious interest from several other clubs, most notably Arizona and Florida, and although general manager Paul DePodesta said earlier this week he didn't want to deal any of his major-league regulars, all indications are that Lo Duca clearly could bring the Dodgers the additional starting pitcher DePodesta is seeking.

The Dodgers previously were believed to be the longest of long shots to land Diamondbacks left-hander Randy Johnson, the top player available in advance of the deadline, but such a trade now appears a bit more plausible.

The Diamondbacks are looking for a better option behind the plate than the aging Brent Mayne and the inexperienced Juan Brito, and they also would like to get out from under Johnson's hefty contract.

Marlins pitchers Brad Penny, Carl Pavano and A.J. Burnett also have been mentioned in trade rumors involving the Dodgers. Any trade the Dodgers make if, in fact, they actually make one before the deadline probably will involve at least two other teams, if not three.

There was at least one report Thursday of a three-team deal in the works between the Dodgers, Diamondbacks and Marlins, but no particulars were available.

Josh Beckett, the Marlins' staff ace, is expected to come off the 15-day disabled list today, which could make it easier for Florida GM Larry Beinfest to part with one of his other starters. DePodesta seemed to indicate he is focused primarily, if not exclusively, on potential three-and four-team trades.

"I am working pretty hard at it," he said. "It's hard to say if I'm close, just because when you do involve multiple teams, so many things have to fall into place. If one thing isn't right, it can wreck the whole thing. I think we're farther along than we were (Wednesday), but I'm not in a position right now to say we're really close."

DePodesta has said he prefers to trade prospects for major-league players, but he indicated Thursday that any deal involving three or four teams might hinge on his willingness to give up major leaguers. DePodesta also said finances and the ramifications of taking on additional payroll are not a concern for the Dodgers, either now or for the future. "We don't have any financial constraints at all," he said. "In all of our talks, we have been the ones that had greater flexibility. That's not an issue for us at all. We're not in a position right now that in order to do something, we have to move payroll."

:roll: Would be nice if we didn't have financial concerns....
 

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Brainless over their in Dodgerland. I say we pillage them for all they're worth.
 

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Eric Gagne just bought a $2.6 million home at/on Camelback Mountain.

Not that it means anything. :D
 

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Brian in Mesa said:
Eric Gagne just bought a $2.6 million home at/on Camelback Mountain.

Not that it means anything. :D

No kidding. When?
 

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Here's what MLB.com had to say about the Dodgers-Marlins trade.

"The Dodgers gave up a ton, but they plan on turning this trade into the first step of what may be a series of trades, perhaps including the acquisition of Randy Johnson and/or Steve Finley from Arizona. Put it this way: They'd better do something along those lines, because the loss of Lo Duca and Mota in particular are big blows."

'Looks like the Dodgers shot their load, planning for The Big Unit and Fins . . . and came up short.

They lost their All Star Catcher and two key members of their bullpen.

Instead of becoming the strongest team in the NL, they might lose the lead in our Division, too.

'Not a good way for their new GM to build his resume.
 

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BC867 said:
Here's what MLB.com had to say about the Dodgers-Marlins trade.

"The Dodgers gave up a ton, but they plan on turning this trade into the first step of what may be a series of trades, perhaps including the acquisition of Randy Johnson and/or Steve Finley from Arizona. Put it this way: They'd better do something along those lines, because the loss of Lo Duca and Mota in particular are big blows."

'Looks like the Dodgers shot their load, planning for The Big Unit and Fins . . . and came up short.

They lost their All Star Catcher and two key members of their bullpen.

Instead of becoming the strongest team in the NL, they might lose the lead in our Division, too.

'Not a good way for their new GM to build his resume.

Not really. Getting rid of LoDuca and Mota will allow them to resign Gagne, Izturis, and Beltre and possibly Odalis Perez. Lo Duca's a solid player with unquestionable heart, but he's notoriously absent offensively in the second half and his defense is sub-par. Losing Mota is the biggest factor and risk but if Darren Dreifort keeps it up, they'll be okay. Plus you know down the stretch Gagne will go two innings. Also they may get draft picks if they offer Finley arbitration at the end of the season and we re-sign him.

You seem to forget that they also added Brad Penny, one of the top 15 SPs in the NL and Hee Seop Choi, a solid, cheap addition as a platoon 1B against righties. Although they wanted RJ, they covered their asses pretty well talent-wise if you ask me. The only question is the effect on chemistry.
 
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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Not really. Getting rid of LoDuca and Mota will allow them to resign Gagne, Izturis, and Beltre and possibly Odalis Perez. Lo Duca's a solid player with unquestionable heart, but he's notoriously absent offensively in the second half and his defense is sub-par. Losing Mota is the biggest factor and risk but if Darren Dreifort keeps it up, they'll be okay. Plus you know down the stretch Gagne will go two innings. Also they may get draft picks if they offer Finley arbitration at the end of the season and we re-sign him.

You seem to forget that they also added Brad Penny, one of the top 15 SPs in the NL and Hee Seop Choi, a solid, cheap addition as a platoon 1B against righties. Although they wanted RJ, they covered their asses pretty well talent-wise if you ask me. The only question is the effect on chemistry.
In their first game after the Marlins trade, Dreifort blew the setup opportunity, but that's only one game.

And there are rumors that Penny's arm is not 100%.

It will be interesting to see if the Dodgers hold on to the Division lead between now and the end of the season.
 

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Whatever DePodesta says about money, there are lots of rumors from both coasts that Frank McCourt is facing substantial financial constraints. They just started a rebuild-and-cut-costs mode in the middle of a pennant race. Be impressive as heck if they pull it off. I have NO doubt they will rebuild and reduce payroll with more common sense and grace than our totally ghastly attempt.

Would have been interesting if Randy had gone there only to find a 2005 LA team going younger, cheaper, with ownership under financial pressure.... No wonder he wanted the Yankees.
 

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sly fly said:
No kidding. When?

From the AZ Repugnant archives:

The Valley's priciest home sales
Jul. 28, 2004 12:00 AM

$2,500,000

Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Eric Gagne and his wife, Valerie Hervieux, bought a house near the Camelback Golf Club in Paradise Valley. The 6,000-square-foot house has black walnut floors, a home theater and sits on more than an acre. The seller was Renay Toronto McBride.
 
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BleedingPurple said:
From the AZ Repugnant archives:

The Valley's priciest home sales
Jul. 28, 2004 12:00 AM

$2,500,000

Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Eric Gagne and his wife, Valerie Hervieux, bought a house near the Camelback Golf Club in Paradise Valley. The 6,000-square-foot house has black walnut floors, a home theater and sits on more than an acre. The seller was Renay Toronto McBride.
Damn...my wife will be pissed - she really wanted me to buy it for her.
 

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