Does Pete Carroll go after Matt Leinart?

[Southpaw]

According to Ben Maller;

Jan 11, 2010 10:01 AM link
Cards Matt Leinart to Seahawks?
One of Pete Carroll's first moves with the Seahawks will be trying to acquire Cardinals QB Matt Leinart, his former star college signal caller, according to those familiar with the thinking of the former USC coach.

Carroll believes that Leinart can be a productive NFL player if given the opportunity. Leinart was under center when the Trojans won the AP national championship in 2003, a BCS title in 2004, and an appearance in the BCS National Championship game in 2005. In 2004, his junior year at USC, he won the Heisman Trophy.

As much as Carroll wants to coach Leinart again in Seattle, NFL sources say its unlikely to happen.

Despite reports Kurt Warner could retire at the end of the postseason, the Cardinals will consider moving on Leinart, who's fallen out of favor with some in the front office, but not to a division rival.

Donovan McNabb who lives in Arizona during the off-season, is a possibility for the Cardinals.

 

[CaptTurbo]

well the hawks have 2 first rounders.

How about Boldin and Leinart for their 14th and Trufant? I hate to give Boldin to a team in the division but imagine if we got a top ILB and Trufant.

 

[ThunderCard]

well the hawks have 2 first rounders.

How about Boldin and Leinart for their 14th and Trufant? I hate to give Boldin to a team in the division but imagine if we got a top ILB and Trufant.

I would never trade within the division. Watch Leinart completely turn around and smoke us for the next 10 years ... Or watching Boldin tear up our weak secondary.

 

[az jam]

We won't trade with a division rival.

 

[stewdog1]

Won't happen.

Next.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Leinart's not going anywhere. McNabb isn't coming to Arizona either. I can't see why people would want him in Arizona. If Warner retires, it would be pretty stupid for the Cards to not at least see what ML can do after 4 years of paying him. If the Cards wanted to look into another QB, the guy i would ask about would be Carson Palmer. Cincy may be down on him after his 2nd half play. I think it was more of the offensive scheme than his passing ability. You get CP out here to come in for Warner and the offense would probably not miss a beat. But they may not with ML either but you have to figure a little drop off until ML gets about 1/2 a year under to him to see what he's got.

 

[cardsfanmd]

The guy who wrote this is pathetic. He has no sources and completely made that whole thing up IMO.

As far as Carroll and bringing in a new QB, I'd expect him to go after JD Booty. He is a rare 4th stringer in Minny and knows the system. Obviously they're looking to trade him since he wasn't cut. Has he assembled his staff yet? I wonder if Chow will be the OC?

 

[82CardsGrad]

We can hope...

 

[MigratingOsprey]

god I hope not

of course, this will be like the michael vick to seattle rumors because mora knew him in atlanta, so of course that is where he will land

really nothing to support it, but it makes for a good lazy deadline column

 

[CardsFan88]

I hope they do. Provided of course that ML is as crappy as I think he is. Which after watching him for 4 years; starting, end of games, or blowouts - imo proves he isn't a competitive starting QB. Maybe at best the 25th best starter in the league, if he were to start.

We have a lot invested in him, but I won't lie, when I read Pete Carroll was coming back to the NFL and with the Seahawks, the first thing I thought was, PLEASE take Leinart off our hands.

Do we risk him turning it around and smoking us for 10 years, sure. But I'd give a 1 percent chance that he smokes us for even 5 years. Most likely a couple of well time defeats on us over the course of the next 3-4 years before he's bounced out of the league or at least bounced from being a starter in this league. Hell I could see him in and out as starter for seahawks in a year and a half.

Isn't their line a little old, and also isn't Leinart a bit injury prone? A bit subjective, but it appears so far he is.

Either way, he's on our team, so hopefully he does well. But I don't have faith in him to lead us successfully, so hopefully we can roll a division opponent and set them back 3-4 years by having them take Leinart off our hands, and give us something.

 

[chickenhead]

If it did happen, most likely he would win a few games against the Cards--as would any other longtime Seattle starting QB--that would get blown way out of proportion because of the revenge storyline. If we got a better deal from Seattle than from other teams (assuming that ML was on the block) I wouldn't be opposed to trading within the division if it made us better. The games will be won and lost by the teams.

 

[Black Jesus]

Leinart for Curry... Deal haha

 

[82CardsGrad]

Leinart for Curry... Deal haha

 

[Russ Smith]

All speculation. Sure Pete loved matt in college but we have no idea if he thinks he's the guy in the NFL. And Philly has already said McNabb will be there next year.

Matt is not the only ex USC QB out there Pete could go after as someone else said maybe Carson Palmer could be had now, no idea.

I was looking at a USC football board last now(admittedly gloating a bit) and they were all saying will Pete get Reggie Bush, will Pete get this guy or that guy they're all just assuming that Pete will go after every ex Trojan he can.

I would submit that if that were Pete Carroll's plan, Seattle wouldn't have hired him. Yes there are a lot of good USC players in the NFL, but the really good ones all have huge contracts, most aren't available, and simply put his job is going to be build the best team he can, not reassemble USC in the NFL.

I wouldn't be surprised to see his drafts focus on some guys he coached at USC or against in college, that would make sense guys he's very familiar with and very recently. Beyond that I think if he's targetting USC guys he's probably going to find it's not the best way to go.

 

[splitsecond]

Leinart's not going anywhere. McNabb isn't coming to Arizona either. I can't see why people would want him in Arizona. If Warner retires, it would be pretty stupid for the Cards to not at least see what ML can do after 4 years of paying him. If the Cards wanted to look into another QB, the guy i would ask about would be Carson Palmer. Cincy may be down on him after his 2nd half play. I think it was more of the offensive scheme than his passing ability. You get CP out here to come in for Warner and the offense would probably not miss a beat. But they may not with ML either but you have to figure a little drop off until ML gets about 1/2 a year under to him to see what he's got.

If McNabb ever comes to Arizona I will not be renewing my season tickets or spending a dime on the franchise until he is gone. I know Graves isn't that stupid.

 

[slinslin]

Leinart's not going anywhere. McNabb isn't coming to Arizona either. I can't see why people would want him in Arizona. If Warner retires, it would be pretty stupid for the Cards to not at least see what ML can do after 4 years of paying him. If the Cards wanted to look into another QB, the guy i would ask about would be Carson Palmer. Cincy may be down on him after his 2nd half play. I think it was more of the offensive scheme than his passing ability. You get CP out here to come in for Warner and the offense would probably not miss a beat. But they may not with ML either but you have to figure a little drop off until ML gets about 1/2 a year under to him to see what he's got.

It would be absolutely catastrophic to rest their hopes on Leinart.

Why? Because he has not shown anything for a long time. With Leinart the Cardinals are an afterthought again, 5 Wins at most and the Cards roster is built to compete right now.

The Cards also need to stay competetive for a few more years to shake off the old reputation completely.

That is why you go for a guy like McNabb who is a proven star QB and will keep the Cardinals competetive for another 4 years if Warner retires.

If you go with Leinart, you set yourself up for disaster because the chance he will actually produce positive results in 2010/11 is extremely small and of course he won't even come close to Warner's production.

A little drop-off when ML steps in for Warner? More like falling of the Mount Everest.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

It would be absolutely catastrophic to rest their hopes on Leinart.

Why? Because he has not shown anything for a long time. With Leinart the Cardinals are an afterthought again, 5 Wins at most and the Cards roster is built to compete right now.

The Cards also need to stay competetive for a few more years to shake off the old reputation completely.

That is why you go for a guy like McNabb who is a proven star QB and will keep the Cardinals competetive for another 4 years if Warner retires.

If you go with Leinart, you set yourself up for disaster because the chance he will actually produce positive results in 2010/11 is extremely small and of course he won't even come close to Warner's production.

A little drop-off when ML steps in for Warner? More like falling of the Mount Everest.

Dude our offense drops off even if its McNabb under center. Our offense changes when Kurt retires, end of story. And would you be willing to bet everything you own that Matt is never going to be a good QB? Because if you wouldnt, then there is no chance in hell you send him to a DIVISON RIVAL.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It would be absolutely catastrophic to rest their hopes on Leinart.

Why? Because he has not shown anything for a long time. With Leinart the Cardinals are an afterthought again, 5 Wins at most and the Cards roster is built to compete right now.

The Cards also need to stay competetive for a few more years to shake off the old reputation completely.

That is why you go for a guy like McNabb who is a proven star QB and will keep the Cardinals competetive for another 4 years if Warner retires.

If you go with Leinart, you set yourself up for disaster because the chance he will actually produce positive results in 2010/11 is extremely small and of course he won't even come close to Warner's production.

A little drop-off when ML steps in for Warner? More like falling of the Mount Everest.

the only thing McNabb has proven is that he can't get it done when it matters most. You have no idea what Leinar can/will do. I'm not about to get into another what ML can/can't do thread because it's pointless since nobody can possibly know.

 

[chickenhead]

I hope Kurt doesn't retire, and if he does, I'm not saying McNabb is the best option. But I will say that McNabb has never had a power RB like we think Beanie can be. And though he had TO, he's never had a receiving corps like we have.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

the only thing McNabb has proven is that he can't get it done when it matters most. You have no idea what Leinar can/will do. I'm not about to get into another what ML can/can't do thread because it's pointless since nobody can possibly know.

EXACTLY! How many times have we said "Wow he sucked here and went somewhere else and is putting up pro bowl numbers!"? The last thing we want to do is send him to Seattle, under a coach who made him a freaking star. Yeah, thats the best idea.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

The guy who wrote this is pathetic. He has no sources and completely made that whole thing up IMO.

As far as Carroll and bringing in a new QB, I'd expect him to go after JD Booty. He is a rare 4th stringer in Minny and knows the system. Obviously they're looking to trade him since he wasn't cut. Has he assembled his staff yet? I wonder if Chow will be the OC?

I said this after the Carroll hiring. This is a guarantee IMO.

All speculation. Sure Pete loved matt in college but we have no idea if he thinks he's the guy in the NFL. And Philly has already said McNabb will be there next year.

Matt is not the only ex USC QB out there Pete could go after as someone else said maybe Carson Palmer could be had now, no idea.

I was looking at a USC football board last now(admittedly gloating a bit) and they were all saying will Pete get Reggie Bush, will Pete get this guy or that guy they're all just assuming that Pete will go after every ex Trojan he can.

I would submit that if that were Pete Carroll's plan, Seattle wouldn't have hired him. Yes there are a lot of good USC players in the NFL, but the really good ones all have huge contracts, most aren't available, and simply put his job is going to be build the best team he can, not reassemble USC in the NFL.

I wouldn't be surprised to see his drafts focus on some guys he coached at USC or against in college, that would make sense guys he's very familiar with and very recently. Beyond that I think if he's targetting USC guys he's probably going to find it's not the best way to go.

I see them getting Bush. He's going to get cut and why wouldn't he go play for his former coach in a locale closer to Kim?

Then again why not just come to PHX, reunite with Mattie and be our change of pace guy with Beanie

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I know this falls more on Jets management.. But to me, Pete Carroll will always be the guy who lost his job to ...*gasp* Rich Kotite.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I said this after the Carroll hiring. This is a guarantee IMO.



I see them getting Bush. He's going to get cut and why wouldn't he go play for his former coach in a locale closer to Kim?

Then again why not just come to PHX, reunite with Mattie and be our change of pace guy with Beanie

LoL On my Madden franchise (second year in, game 6 of regular season) I have him as a 3rd down back and Hightower is my full time FB (obviously Beanie starts). So far (lol) Beanie has 698 yards rushing with 4 TD's, Bush has 115 yards rushing but 200 yards recieving out of the backfield with 3 TD's, and Tim has 100 yards recieving and 45 rushing yards with a TD. 6 weeks in and my 3 big backfield threats have 8 TD's on the year. Its VERY nice and sets up my passing so nicely. Fitz is always open on play action lol.

 

[Catfish]

I feel that we will try to keep Matty to at least see if he has the moxie to become a solid starter if Kurt retires. Granted we would never find another Kurt, but Matt might prove to be solid as a starter on a team with a balanced attack as opposed to a pass first scheme. Who knows, this might work fine for us, as we seem to have come up with a running tandem that works. Remember, they just ripped the #1 ranked rush defense for 159 yards in regulation. Matty might just feel more comfortable in a scheme where the pass is a compliment to the run, rather than the idea that the offense was built around.

This would give our team a different look, but one that is every bit as likely to be successful, in that our O-line seems to play at an increased level when they get the chance to run-block with some regularity. They seem to thrive on this type of play, rather than just having to pass-protect constantly on their islands.

I feel that Matt would be very comfortable and very effective in this type of offense, as he is a good ball handler, with good feet, and can make the hand-offs that Kurt had a hard time making due to his slow feet. The only thing that Matt seems to lack is confidence right now, and that could come back with the right scheme in my opinion.

 

[john h]

Seattle vs SF

According to Ben Maller;

I do not care if Leinart goes into our division or not. Just move him on before Kurt retires. If we were to win the superbowl I think Kurt would retire. He would have nothing else to prove and go out on a very high note and to the hall of fame. If he gets sacked over and over in N.O. I think he retires. We are likely to lose some of our good players next year and he may not see us being super bowl bound again. As I play this out in my head I cannot help but seeing Kurt retire (What a sad day). He should help the Cards if he does by telling them early enough so they can start looking at FA QB's or trade possibilities. I think he is classy enough to do that. Meantime N.O. here we come. I have not looked at the line but would guess we will be a 7 point underdog. Getting off to a good start means everything. Scoring first means a lot.