Doncic - Anthony Davis Trade

[GatorAZ]

Gator, are you a Lakers fan?

God no

 

[AzStevenCal]

How in the world do you really think this makes the Mav's better?

I seriously cannot comprehend this line of thinking.

AD has NEVER scared me as an opponent. Luka has single handedly killed the Suns 25 times minimum.

For whatever it's worth, since Luka came into the NBA his team (with and without him) has gone 12-19 against the Suns.

As for the trade, I don't think it makes the Mavs better but I believe it gives them a better chance to win it all this season. With Luka's hamstring and reported conditioning, I'm not sure how much of a factor he'll be this year.

I think Dallas was fleeced in this deal from a value standpoint but if they felt compelled to move him to the Lakers than it would start to make some sense.

 

[Mainstreet]

This kind of summarizes what the Mavericks left on the table.

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[Yuma]

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Dallas is shooting 37% from 3 which is 10th. They’re 7th in offensive rating with Luka missing half the season. An elite two way big man would do wonders for them.

That would help a lot of teams. Like the Suns, actually.

 

[Yuma]

For whatever it's worth, since Luka came into the NBA his team (with and without him) has gone 12-19 against the Suns.

As for the trade, I don't think it makes the Mavs better but I believe it gives them a better chance to win it all this season. With Luka's hamstring and reported conditioning, I'm not sure how much of a factor he'll be this year.

I think Dallas was fleeced in this deal from a value standpoint but if they felt compelled to move him to the Lakers than it would start to make some sense.

I think this is the new NBA. Teams have watched the Suns and other teams over the Second Apron, and they want to be flexible. At least stay in the first apron if they go over. There's going to be more pickiness over giving a guy $280 million.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think this is the new NBA. Teams have watched the Suns and other teams over the Second Apron, and they want to be flexible. At least stay in the first apron if they go over. There's going to be more pickiness over giving a guy $280 million.

Yeah, I'm sure the new rules have a lot to do with what's going on.

 

[Yuma]

Yes. Luka is low key a diva and has the same metabolism as Zion Williamson.

But of course the Lakers are once again the benefactors of a lopsided trade

Maybe Lakers trade for Zion now? You may be onto something!

 

[Suns_fan69]

I think this is the new NBA. Teams have watched the Suns and other teams over the Second Apron, and they want to be flexible. At least stay in the first apron if they go over. There's going to be more pickiness over giving a guy $280 million.

I don't necessarily disagree with this (about having to be selective with who you give max and supermax money to), but Luka is a generational player. Ignoring that, the return for a Doncic trade should have been way higher, and would have been if they opened it up for bidding.

 

[Hoop Head]

Maybe Lakers trade for Zion now? You may be onto something!

Then I wouldn't bet against them in a hot dog eating contest, not even against Joey Chestnut.

 

[swagron]

How in the world do you really think this makes the Mav's better?

I seriously cannot comprehend this line of thinking.

AD has NEVER scared me as an opponent. Luka has single handedly killed the Suns 25 times minimum.

Not to be rude at all, but you sound like the sky is falling. Teams are allowed to make trades. Not all trade happen Jimmy Bulter/James Harden style. We fans aren’t privy to the inner workings of a basketball team. No rules were violated and it’s a win-win for both clubs. Definitely now for the Mavs, maybe later for the Lakers. I think the risk is big on the Laker side.

 

[Lorenzo]

I still don't understand the trade and don't think the mavs got enough for Luka in return. but I don't think they would have ever got enough unless they got another younger player who is on doncic's level and that is probably not happening. the things people are saying is that mavericks front office (not cuban) were frustrated by Luka's commitment to his fitness and to the team.

a couple things to clarify about the cuban comments. this is not a mark cuban deal. mega billionaire casino owner Miriam Adelson owns majority of dallas mavs now and are in control from an ownership standpoint. Cuban who now owns less than 30% had previously surrendered much of the basketball operations to Nico Harrison and then sold the majority share because his kids have no interest in running the team. cuban also desires for Dallas to build a new arena and casino resort, hence why he teamed with Adelson. Patrick Dumont (adelson's son in law), Nico Harrison, Michael Finley and maybe to a lesser degree Jason Kidd are in charge of this deal.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Mavericks social media team posted this just 8 hours before the trade.

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[Goldfield]

I think this is the new NBA. Teams have watched the Suns and other teams over the Second Apron, and they want to be flexible. At least stay in the first apron if they go over. There's going to be more pickiness over giving a guy $280 million.

This I hope is true but I don’t know

 

[Lorenzo]

Not to be rude at all, but you sound like the sky is falling. Teams are allowed to make trades. Not all trade happen Jimmy Bulter/James Harden style. We fans aren’t privy to the inner workings of a basketball team. No rules were violated and it’s a win-win for both clubs. Definitely now for the Mavs, maybe later for the Lakers. I think the risk is big on the Laker side.

yeah I kind of feel like the sky is falling as a mavs fan. but not for the same reasons. doncic was my favorite player for dallas and the main reason that I would watch their games, in a league that is otherwise hard to watch now. that aside, I don't think there is some conspiracy for the lakers. that is going really far, but is to be expected because everyone thinks everything is rigged for whatever reason.

 

[leclerc]

In my opinion the "trade" is seriously lopsided and Dallas is obviously amongst the more incompetent clubs in the league. After all they went after that washed up SG from Golden State, the guy with four rings, so they are in decline. Thankfully I am not a Mavs fan.

We used to own Luka and the Mavs but it turned really bad some years ago. I love the picture of Ayton and Bridges being dads and Luka as a kid on a bike.

It is a good thing to be athletic and good inside as long as they have good shooters as well. Maybe they can challenge Boston this year who knows. I might be wrong and they might be geniouses.

 

[Lorenzo]

Mavericks social media team posted this just 8 hours before the trade.

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yeah I've heard Luka was not aware of the deal and I think a lot of the reports that he wanted out of dallas are overblown. he was also set to make a lot of money in dallas in the future.

 

[swagron]

yeah I kind of feel like the sky is falling as a mavs fan. but not for the same reasons. doncic was my favorite player for dallas and the main reason that I would watch their games, in a league that is otherwise hard to watch now. that aside, I don't think there is some conspiracy for the lakers. that is going really far, but is to be expected because everyone thinks everything is rigged for whatever reason.

I agree with your statements. Doncic is favorite of mine and the NBA is hard to watch.
People think things are rigged when things don’t go their way. That’s how society works now.

 

[Lorenzo]

In my opinion the "trade" is seriously lopsided and Dallas is obviously amongst the more incompetent clubs in the league. After all they went after that washed up SG from Golden State, the guy with four rings, so they are in decline. Thankfully I am not a Mavs fan.

We used to own Luka and the Mavs but it turned really bad some years ago. I love the picture of Ayton and Bridges being dads and Luka as a kid on a bike.

It is a good thing to be athletic and good inside as long as they have good shooters as well. Maybe they can challenge Boston this year who knows. I might be wrong and they might be geniouses.

dallas would probably need to make other deals and signings in the future to be competitive long term and make up for Luka's loss. AD is a great player when healthy, but not the long term answer.

 

[Mainstreet]

yeah I kind of feel like the sky is falling as a mavs fan. but not for the same reasons. doncic was my favorite player for dallas and the main reason that I would watch their games, in a league that is otherwise hard to watch now. that aside, I don't think there is some conspiracy for the lakers. that is going really far, but is to be expected because everyone thinks everything is rigged for whatever reason.

It's not a terrible trade for Mavericks fans, but if Dallas had opened up the trade to other NBA teams, the offers would have been almost other worldly.

 

[Lorenzo]

Like it or not, I also think that dallas has been happy with the success of K. Irving. He's been a lot better than expected and he has been a leader in the dallas lockeroom. I'm not sure how he feels about the trade, but the mavs team has changed a lot in the last 2 years and doncic has not adapted well to those changes from what I can tell.

 

[Lorenzo]

It's not a terrible trade for Mavericks fans, but if Dallas had opened up the trade to other NBA teams, the offers would have been almost other worldly.

hard to say. once things go public it can ruin a trade and teams are most likely not going to be willing to give as much once everyone knows you no longer want a player. Harrison got the player that he wanted in return, but I don't think they got enough draft capital. that said they could have gotten multiple first round picks for doncic and got nothing out of it. AD is the closest thing to being fair return.

 

[Hoop Head]

It's not a terrible trade for Mavericks fans, but if Dallas had opened up the trade to other NBA teams, the offers would have been almost other worldly.

Until Luka starts saying he won't play for certain teams. That sinks a players value. AD is coming off being a 2nd Team All NBA & 1st All Defensive team season while being healthy this year putting up 25 & 12 to go with over 3 steals/blocks a game. I know we mock his health and availability but when healthy, he's the best PF in the game and he's been healthy. Maybe bubble wrap is more plentiful in Dallas?

 

[Covert Rain]

if Dallas had opened up the trade to other NBA teams, the offers would have been almost other worldly.

This.

 

[Mainstreet]

hard to say. once things go public it can ruin a trade and teams are most likely not going to be willing to give as much once everyone knows you no longer want a player. Harrison got the player that he wanted in return, but I don't think they got enough draft capital. that said they could have gotten multiple first round picks for doncic and got nothing out of it. AD is the closest thing to being fair return.

I think the Mavericks grossly underestimated Luka's value and got locked onto the money aspect, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Yuma]

yeah I kind of feel like the sky is falling as a mavs fan. but not for the same reasons. doncic was my favorite player for dallas and the main reason that I would watch their games, in a league that is otherwise hard to watch now. that aside, I don't think there is some conspiracy for the lakers. that is going really far, but is to be expected because everyone thinks everything is rigged for whatever reason.

I look at people saying this trade should have been nixed like the CP3 to LA trade. Are we kidding. The NBA has a young Luka in LA! The Laker games will be as many national games now as possible. This is the best case scenario for the NBA offices.