Draft - one week out - what do the Cardinals do with #4?

[dreamcastrocks]

Or, you might not even be able to do so. I agree, that mock would suck.

If that is the case and we couldn't move back up, it would suck.

I'd probably take Bowers if that was the case and pair him with McBride.

 

[BritCard]

That mock looks a lot like worst case scenario. If we did this trade, I’d want to outbid green at for 9 and still get Odunze.

In this scenario I think the Falcons would be a prime trade partner. Falcons are trade back and get one of the top 2 edge guys, likely still have choice of both.

That's probably more likely than them sticking at 11, but I wanted to float that idea because it's not a given they will do what we think.

 

[BritCard]

Listening to Schrager, he says the Giants really are interested in QBs. They met with McCarthy twice.

I just don't see it. Partly because Jones contract situation, although there is an argument they sit a guy to develop, but also, maybe mainly so, does drafting JJ mcCarthy not feel like drafting Danny Jones again?

If they are going to move on from Danny Jones it doesn't seem wise to draft another guy that could well be Danny Jones adjacent.

 

[BritCard]

We promise to draft him at 4 if he is there.

Canales was asked yesterday about reports he told Malachi Corley he'd draft him at #33 if there, his response was "Yeah I did, but I said the same to 50 other guys".

 

[Stout]

That’s a terrible measuring stick. Bad too end talent last year. More to end talent this year. If the grading k9 presented is accurate it sounds like Paris would’ve gone in the late 20s/early 2nd round this year.

There's certainly no scenario he goes top 10 in this year's draft.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I just don't see it. Partly because Jones contract situation, although there is an argument they sit a guy to develop, but also, maybe mainly so, does drafting JJ mcCarthy not feel like drafting Danny Jones again?

LOL you don't have to see it.

Jones was an absolute trainwreck last year. And it isn't the first time he has been. The GM and coaching staff are "save their job" mode.

Granted it could be that the Giants are also trying to get in the trade derby themselves.

If they are going to move on from Danny Jones it doesn't seem wise to draft another guy that could well be Danny Jones adjacent.

Jones didn't have the "winner" pedigree that McCarthy has.

 

[Krangodnzr]

There's certainly no scenario he goes top 10 in this year's draft.

He isn't in Alt's class, so he probably wouldn't have. Alt is probably the only OT going in the top ten this year.

Paris is still the best OT prospect the Cardinals have had since they came to Arizona and I'm glad to have him.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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[kerouac9]

Jones was an absolute trainwreck last year.

He was very bad, but he only played in six games. Those games were against Dallas, ARI, SF, SEA, MIA, and Buffalo. Yikes.

 

[Totally_Red]

Interesting that Cowherd is saying that Arizona with 11 draft picks will be the most improved team coming out of the draft. One of his 4 takes on the draft. Fwiw...

 

[kerouac9]

Interesting that Cowherd is saying that Arizona with 11 draft picks will be the most improved team coming out of the draft. One of his 4 takes on the draft. Fwiw...

Yes. That’s obviously and self-evidently true.

 

[Mulli]

Yes. That’s obviously and self-evidently true.

Take it to the bank! Right next to Caleb Williams didn’t want to play in Chicago

 

[Stout]

He isn't in Alt's class, so he probably wouldn't have. Alt is probably the only OT going in the top ten this year.

Paris is still the best OT prospect the Cardinals have had since they came to Arizona and I'm glad to have him.

I'd guestimate he goes in the later 20s in this draft. Maybe early twenties or late teens. Not a knock on him--there are a ton of talented OTs this year.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'd guestimate he goes in the later 20s in this draft. Maybe early twenties or late teens. Not a knock on him--there are a ton of talented OTs this year.

I like Paris more than Latham. I like him as a pure tackle more than Fuaga, who some teams think will really struggle some with complete pass rushers at the NFL level. I like him more than Mims.

Id probably put Alt and Fashanu over him and that's it.

 

[Brak]

Or a best case scenario. You could still trade back up to the 8-9 range and still get Odunze, while the price to move back up is much lower.

I like this strategy and I think this is what we may see. Odunze and Nabers are both damn close to Harrison, and I think any of the 3 are worthy first rounders - so I'd like to see them load up and grab one of the other 2.

 

[Brak]

Interesting that Cowherd is saying that Arizona with 11 draft picks will be the most improved team coming out of the draft. One of his 4 takes on the draft. Fwiw...

Hopefully not a patented "Cowherd kiss of death". But I have a lot of faith in the front office - they've knocked it out of the park thus far, including the immediate culture change throughout the organization, especially in the locker room.

 

[kerouac9]

they've knocked it out of the park thus far

Old FO: 4-13
New FO: 4-13

 

[Mulli]

Old FO: 4-13
New FO: 4-13

O DUIs.

 

[BirdGangThing]

hey monti - just don't trade another rookie of the year away again - mhj ftw - after that go nuts brochacho - move up move down - idc

 

[BritCard]

I like Paris more than Latham. I like him as a pure tackle more than Fuaga, who some teams think will really struggle some with complete pass rushers at the NFL level. I like him more than Mims.

Id probably put Alt and Fashanu over him and that's it.

Same.

 

[BritCard]

Old FO: 4-13
New FO: 4-13

I mean, their starting QB missed 10 games. Seems relevant.

 

[kerouac9]

I mean, their starting QB missed 10 games. Seems relevant.

If only the FO had known in advance and been able to prepare for that

 

[BritCard]

If only the FO had known in advance and been able to prepare for that

Yeah, lots of starting calibre QB's just hanging around for peanuts.

I guess they could have blown $10m on someone like Brissett so they could snaffle another win or two just to keep you happy.

 

[TheCardFan]

If only the FO had known in advance and been able to prepare for that

They did....

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[Totally_Red]

Hopefully not a patented "Cowherd kiss of death". But I have a lot of faith in the front office - they've knocked it out of the park thus far, including the immediate culture change throughout the organization, especially in the locker room.

Most improved doesn't necessarily mean good just better. It could mean going from 30th to 18th. That said, I expect 5-7 solid starters from this draft. Most excited I've been for a draft in forever.