Draft Player overall Ratings? Should take best CB,LB,WR,DL if alot higher than QB

[cardsunsfan]

I remember when there were several draft sites that gave an overall rating for the player. (maybe you have to pay to see those these days?) If those are supposedly "fairly" accurate I think past years should be looked at and then base that on how solid the players look in this draft.

I think we need a CB & LB especially. (In the title put it in order of importance for us the wya I see it) Although fairly strong a WR I think a really great one could possibly make a huge difference in the win column. We probably need a guard as well but I don't seem them as highly ranked this year. QB is still the most important position but this class may just be really bad. How far down is Webb in total ranking compared to the other QB's?

I do think QB makes a huge difference in how well your team does and maybe many teams should draft a qb every second or third round for a few years if they have an aging QB since it such a crapshoot and their isn't a big drop in talent that year. A good QB on a bad team can still often have a respectable record. A bad QB on a good team is usually not going to go far and you usually need a really good QB to go all the way. I do think possibly the Cardinals have not invested enough in that position and they are running out of time.

I think if Lattimore, Foster or Mike Williams are available (The best at their position?) we should take them if their rating is a lot higher.

What do you think?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Draft countdown lists and ranks them.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/nfl-draft-ranking/2017-nfl-draft-rankings/

 

[cardsunsfan]

Thanks. I've done some browsing and it seems there is quite a bit more disagreement on these sited on who the best is. What I was really looking for was something I believe ESPN insider had wheich ranked everybody by number like .946. Then you could go back and see how this year compared to others. An example would be.. number one corner 9.3 Patrick Peterson got a 9.6. Best LB gets a 9.7 maybe you take him because of that. Maholmes had a 7.2. Webb has a 6.9 so close enough to wait to see if you can get him in the second. Just examples and obviously not an exact science (Brady probably got a 5 or something)

 

[Solar7]

I've been very vocal about the QBOTF argument in the past couple of days. I think if you have a QB prospect that favorably ranks with the rest of your board come draft night, you pull the trigger on him, even if he's not BPA.

Let's just say you get to get to #13, and Lattimore, Foster, Williams, and Watson are there. For the sake of argument (not my grades or ranks), you have a grade of 91 on Lattimore, 90 on Williams, 88 on Foster, and 87 on Watson, I'd pull the trigger on Watson.

 

[cardsunsfan]

I agree with that but it seems like the Gap is a lot bigger than that to me maybe he gets a 72 or something?. What if the next batch of QBs is an average of just a couple points less?

 

[JeffGollin]

Most draft services rate players both overall and by position.

But why restrict your non-QB universe to CB, LB WR and DL? Rank all players regardless of position and take the highest who drops to you.

i.e. pass on "need" in favor of best athlete available (BPA).

 

[Solar7]

I agree with that but it seems like the Gap is a lot bigger than that to me maybe he gets a 72 or something?. What if the next batch of QBs is an average of just a couple points less?

Well, of course... it's why there won't be much in play at OL this year early on - no one grades out. But QBs are a scarce resource, and drafting is an inexact science. We had a QB in each round we were interested in taking a flyer on last year, and they all got taken before we picked. Would you rather have a 7.2 QB and a 7.2 CB, or a 9.3 CB and a 0.0 QB? These numbers aren't permanent, and you miss 100% of shots you don't take.

 

[cardsunsfan]

Most draft services rate players both overall and by position.

But why restrict your non-QB universe to CB, LB WR and DL? Rank all players regardless of position and take the highest who drops to you.

i.e. pass on "need" in favor of best athlete available (BPA).

I would agree on that if the ratings were spread fairly apart. If this were the best guard class ever I'd maybe take a guard for instance.

I also agree on your point of view Solar but if there is a QB with a grade that is pretty close in the second round then I may wait and who knows maybe take one in the later rounds as well. QB is such a crap shoot I wonder if you should take extras to just hopefully win the law of averages...

 

[Solar7]

I also agree on your point of view Solar but if there is a QB with a grade that is pretty close in the second round then I may wait and who knows maybe take one in the later rounds as well. QB is such a crap shoot I wonder if you should take extras to just hopefully win the law of averages...

I'd gladly take Mahomes/Watson/Trubisky and then Chad Kelly or Dobbs if they slipped into the 5th or later. Never know what may happen.