So trade back in the second round 5 spots. That should net you a 5th and a 6th.
Drafting Backwards - The Defense
- Thread starter Harry
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I think they are missing the Chief trade:
Every team drafts for need to some extent. We aren't going to draft a QB at #20 is that's the best player on the board.
Agreed. But Monti isn't going into the draft saying I need to come out with a DT in the first round.
BirdGangThing
Cultist
have you seen tune's push tush?
No. He should go with his board, but his board will be weighted to what he needs. Or it should be. I wouldn't think much chance of them taking a WR in round 1 for example.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
No thanks. Stick and pick.
agree. if anything, trade the late picks to move up in round 1 or 2 to get a guy they have targeted.
with 9 rookies from 24, we can come out of the 25 draft with only 3 or 4 players and be fine. if this past draft hits as well as it looks right now we are gonna have cap difficulties in a few years trying to keep our own guys,,,gonna be nice to have champagne problems for a change
gmabel830
It's football season!!
Connor is a free agent after this year too. I think he and Budda will both re-sign, but safety and RB could be big holes if those guys leave. I think the hope was that Rabbit and Benson were drafted as potential replacements, but they are so important to the defense/offense that I don't think you can plug those guys right in next year.
But Ogilare( sp) Gardeck and Robinson were a part of the build but got hurt. The fact that this defense has been playing fairly well with their replacements.
Had MO blew 20m on a CB we might not be enjoying the success of the guys we have.
Blowing huge $$$ on 1 guy on the d-line going into this year was not going to make us better.
MO is attempting to build a roster of quality and depth. It’s working. Just look at our o-line. With all the injuries we have sustained this unit hasn’t dropped off at all.
I think our big free agent signings are going to come from within. PJ, McBride and the likes will be rewarded.
Nice post! I absolutely believe MO is looking for 6-7 mad dogs to rotate the front 7. And if a guy like Stills or Robinson blossoms and becomes an A+ player all the better.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
If Gardeck was part of the build then it needs torn down again lol He's a backup level player and special teamer, not a "piece."
As I said in another thread I think MO is looking for 6-8 dogs to rotate and fit the scheme and culture. Special teams is a good thing, no?
We keep saying this guys aren’t good but look where we are sitting. Gardeck is a scrapper with 3 sacks? before he got hurt.
BACH
Superbowl, Homeboy!
I'm thinking a little differently for the next draft.
I'm thinking we already have a young team with some promising players and we can only carry so many more under 23 year olds. I believe we have picks 1 through 5 and a the Chiefs 7th from Cam Thomas. I'd be fine with trading the 5th and 7th either for vets, or using them in the draft to move and get the player you like. I'd be fine next year coming out of the draft with just 4 picks.
I don't see anyone in the draft being better than those guys in replacing Conner and Budda. I expect both to resign, but if they didn't I would expect Benson and Rabbit to be their replacements. Both have shown promise.
Frankly I don't think this team can afford to lose either of those guys. They are the heart of each side of the ball.
Free agency is massively overrated for top end talent. There's nearly always a reason teams let a guy go and they rarely work out. The hit rate on top end FA signings is pretty poor in regards to value.
Christian Wilkins was the biggest non QB signing last offseason and he has 2 sacks, 2 TFLs and 14 tackles in 5 games and the Raiders defense sucks, and he's missed 5 games.
Dante Stills has 3.5 sacks, 3 TFLs and a forced fumble in only 80 more snaps.
The Panthers spent $20m a year on Robert Hunt at Guard and he's been worse than Will Hernandez.
I'm looking at the top 10 paid guys from FA and the only ones that you can say have offered value are Danielle Hunter and Jonathan Greenard, which is ironic because I thought both were overpaid at the time.
GeorgiaCard88
Veteran
Why are yall so concerned about not having a pick in 6/7? Did we not just draft 10 players last year?
We should keep our picks, don’t trade back, and get actual contributors on this team. I could care less about not having round 6/7 players
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
I think this is the hardest part of the equation to evaluate.
We know what is said and what we see publically about each player, but what is their true worth to the team in terms of the intangible benefit (i.e. leadership) they bring to the table?
It's not "nothing" and neither does it make them irreplaceable.
Sounds like things in the locker room are very good at this point. All other things remaining equal, if I'm MO, I'm not going to disturb that unless I absolutely have to.
I think players on both sides of the ball are attached to those two guys. Both of them are almost totemic. I think if we removed either, especially if they wanted to stay and we just didn't do it, would really damage moral.
But both guys are playing really good football and should be resigned on their own merits. Both are tricky deals though. They both play one of the least valuable positions on their side of the ball while also managing to be crucial to the heart and soul of the team. And both are probably on their last career deals and want to get paid.
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