Drastic changes coming to the NFL in the not too distant future?

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I don't really care about the game being safer, it is close to becoming boring as is. These guys make a ton of money, they don't like the risk don't play. I love football but if they continue to keep over regulating the game watch how fast the NFL falls off its perch into hockey status JMO.
 

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I've said this for years the NFL needs to go to a Olympic style blood testing for all doping agents. When you're 270+ pounds and can run a 4.6 to 4.7 40 time something's wrong. If the players care about players they should implement Olympic testing and get these players back to a normal human size. That along with the improved equipment and current rules should almost make this a non-issue.
 

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I understand the want to make the game safer, but there is a point to where the realization that the players, the organizations, and the league must realize they are playing a football.

Players are shooting themselves in the chest to commit suicide and at the same time protect their brain for medical research. We've gone way beyond football being a tough guy sport and it's not manly to shake off a concussion. The sport has to get safer. The level of danger is incredible with the size and speed of these players.
 

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I don't really care about the game being safer, it is close to becoming boring as is...
Different strokes.

I like the chess-match, huge holes being opened up, RB's being stopped cold in the backfield, fade patterns, screens that work, screens that get blown up, automatics and checkdowns, playbooks and a whole bunch of other stuff.

I used to really enjoy neck-breaking collisions (until they broke necks). At that point common-sense kicked in. We don't need to watch players get paralyzed or die just because we like to see one guy obliterate another.

There is a difference between watching an OG ride his defensive counterpart downfield 20 yards vs. a safety laying a helmet up high on a defenseless receiver who didn't see him coming.

Overregulating is one thing. But if we've got a problem with concussions, paralysis and suicides, to do nothing would be immoral if not criminal.
 

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Different strokes.

I like the chess-match, huge holes being opened up, RB's being stopped cold in the backfield, fade patterns, screens that work, screens that get blown up, automatics and checkdowns, playbooks and a whole bunch of other stuff.

I used to really enjoy neck-breaking collisions (until they broke necks). At that point common-sense kicked in. We don't need to watch players get paralyzed or die just because we like to see one guy obliterate another.

There is a difference between watching an OG ride his defensive counterpart downfield 20 yards vs. a safety laying a helmet up high on a defenseless receiver who didn't see him coming.

Overregulating is one thing. But if we've got a problem with concussions, paralysis and suicides, to do nothing would be immoral if not criminal.

Completely agree
 

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Different strokes.

I like the chess-match, huge holes being opened up, RB's being stopped cold in the backfield, fade patterns, screens that work, screens that get blown up, automatics and checkdowns, playbooks and a whole bunch of other stuff.

I used to really enjoy neck-breaking collisions (until they broke necks). At that point common-sense kicked in. We don't need to watch players get paralyzed or die just because we like to see one guy obliterate another.

There is a difference between watching an OG ride his defensive counterpart downfield 20 yards vs. a safety laying a helmet up high on a defenseless receiver who didn't see him coming.

Overregulating is one thing. But if we've got a problem with concussions, paralysis and suicides, to do nothing would be immoral if not criminal.

While I respect your opinion I don't agree we could start a flag football league for those who like the chess aspect, but the reason most people watch NFL football is the violence/suddenness of the game. The best players I watched growing up LT, Lambert, Payton, all had it. They are why I played football growing up, and why I watch it today, it isn't for everyone, either you have it or don't. The game right now is almost turning into a 7 on 7 game for me, because the WR's have no fear crossing the middle, the best way to keep them out of the middle (where they do the most damage ) of the field was the big hit. Like I said all these players have a choice, they got free rides to college why do they choose to continue to take the risk? It is a game you can try to fix all you want but the best players IMO will still be the most violent most agressive players, and I know this isn't a popular postion, but I'm not trying to be the moral compass for anyone, JMO.
 

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I also heard that instead of blocking on the line and trying to pass rush, they are just going to make the linemen play paper, scissors, rock to see who gives up ground LOL
 

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I also heard that instead of blocking on the line and trying to pass rush, they are just going to make the linemen play paper, scissors, rock to see who gives up ground LOL


just no rushing
give QB 7 seconds to throw the ball or loss of down
 

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Until things go back to the times where people took, and where held to the responsibilities that come with their own actions things will continue to change.

With players, playing the injury card like a smoker who complains he didn't know cigarettes gave you cancer, I can only see the game getting less and less physical, and more and more like an over-hyped passing skeleton competition.

I understand the want to make the game safer, but there is a point to where the realization that the players, the organizations, and the league must realize they are playing a football. It is a physical sport, and no body is holding guns to these players' collective heads and forcing them out onto the field. They have known the risks of injury since they started playing in pop Warner.

If you are scared of getting hurt, then don't go on the field.

+1

There are guys who never get the chance to continue playing in the US. They would give one of their arms to have that chance in pro ball.

The new kickoff ruling which results in a majority of touchbacks has really turned me off somewhat of being an avid NFL fan. But I still follow it.
 

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This problem starts and ends with the use of PEDs, specifically HGH and whatever comes after that. If the NFL and NFLPA would agree to invest in top of the line drug testing, this wouldn't be a problem. As would it be preventative if the NFL invested and paid for similar testing in high school and college football.

I have always enjoyed the physical nature of football, but today's society won't tolerate the constant headlines of the long term damages it causes much longer. That leads to litigation and gets congress involved.
 

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The primary issue is head injuries. The problem is when players use the helmet as a weapon, they do damage to themselves and others. If there was a way to make the present helmets safer, and yet more painful if they are used for a hit, it would help. Huge penalties for leading with the crown would be the way. Maybe a penalty box of sorts for it. One call for that and you are out for a half. Two calls and it is a game and a half.

Let opposing teams throw replay flags for it.
 
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The primary issue is head injuries. The problem is when players use the helmet as a weapon, they do damage to themselves and others. If there was a way to make the present helmets safer, and yet more painful if they are used for a hit, it would help. Huge penalties for leading with the crown would be the way. Maybe a penalty box of sorts for it. One call for that and you are out for a half. Two calls and it is a game and a half.

Let opposing teams throw replay flags for it.

maybe it is just me but if you then allowed teams to throw replay flags for hits, the games would take about 5 hours to play
 

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I they'll have change the name of the game to "ball" or NBL since they want to elminate the foot part of the game.
 

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I hope they don't take the foot out of football, they moved it up to reduce kick returns, guys brang it out from deep in the end zone last year!

Well the chess game strategy use to protect the players, Max protect, 2 wide out sets, play action? The Cards are the worse offenders, yes if you pass every down the defenses will adjust to passing every down. Teams are allowed to run 40% or more of the time- no really it is ok!

Whiz is talking about "flipping the field with Floyd" in the new NFL! That inpatient playcalling gets players hurt.
 

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Just insert Pro Bowl Rules and the problem is over. :)

Maybe the NFL should restrict size limits.

Can't be over 300 lbs.
Can't be over 250 lbs to play LB.
Can't be over 220 lbs for RB, WR or TE

And you can't run faster than a 4.7 forty yard dash. :D
 

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This problem starts and ends with the use of PEDs, specifically HGH and whatever comes after that. If the NFL and NFLPA would agree to invest in top of the line drug testing, this wouldn't be a problem.

That's a great idea I think I heard that somewhere before maybe even in this very thread. ;)

I've said this for years the NFL needs to go to a Olympic style blood testing for all doping agents. When you're 270+ pounds and can run a 4.6 to 4.7 40 time something's wrong. If the players care about players they should implement Olympic testing and get these players back to a normal human size. That along with the improved equipment and current rules should almost make this a non-issue.

Has anyone seen Brian Bosworth on and off steroids it's simply amazing the difference performance enhancing drugs can do to a human's body.

We had an adult flag football team with a 6 foot 5 290 pound behemoth that played offensive line for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He wasn't a starter and only played a couple years before he tore out his ACL and had to move back home. After his leg healed, and he couldn't make a comeback to the NFL he played with us for fun. The following season he came back to our team looking like a basketball player with very little muscle and about half the size. He would've never played in the NFL without PEDs.

Anyways, Olympic style blood testing is well advanced anything the NFL players are ready for and would definitely put them at a huge disadvantage in getting away with cheating. I still remember football in the early 80s when 6' 2" 250 or 260 pounds was a big man. Now you have all these basketball types that are 6'5" to 6'8" that are doping it.
 
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That's a great idea I think I heard that somewhere before maybe even in this very thread. ;)

We've talked about it before on this board and I hate to break it to you but you weren't even the first to mention it in this thread. Check out the 3rd post.:)

Steve
 

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We've talked about it before on this board and I hate to break it to you but you weren't even the first to mention it in this thread. Check out the 3rd post.:)

Steve

Don't recall claiming to be the first one to ever talk about it only claimed I've read it before. Also mentioned I've been discussing it for years not as if the idea just came to me in my first post in this thread just having some fun. ;)

Besides I'm beating the drum for Olympic standard testing how many times have you discussed that?

IMO , the players should be suing the players union not the NFL for not fighting for their safety and keeping a level playing field by not allowing IMO a majority of the players to circumvent the PED rules in one manner or another. Whether it's steroids, HGH or just something to get you up for the game to play faster and harder for longer.

IMO , it's hypocrisy to sue the NFL for something you would not allow them to do to help protect you that probably would have made the biggest difference in your safety.
 
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