Drobnjak will likely be available

[Joe Mama]

I wonder how much it would cost to get him. I've cut to believe it would cost at least $2-3 million per season. If the Phoenix Suns could find a way to get this guy it would be a major step in the right direction. The problem of course is that he would actually cost the Phoenix Suns twice that next season because of the salary cap.

Joe Mama

http://www.tribnet.com/sports/story/3389420p-3420227c.html

In all likelihood, team sources say, Drobnjak will not be back. Ollie and Evans probably will command about $1 million each, meaning if they are back the Sonics will have only about $1.5 million to sign a free agent who Walker describes as "having toughness and size on the perimeter."

 

[ThatsAmare]

Frank wouldn't use him, more than likely.

 

[fordronken]

He fits the need of a shooting center, but I haven't watched him enough to really be able to tell. Sonics games weren't exactly at the top of my viewing schedule during the season. However, there is one reason to get him, and this alone may be enough:

http://www.nba.com/sonics/drobnjak/manjaks.html

 

[Chaplin]

Well, he'd be an upgrade over Scott Williams.

And you say Frank wouldn't use him? His measurements are almost identical to Scotty, so...

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by fordronken
He fits the need of a shooting center, but I haven't watched him enough to really be able to tell. Sonics games weren't exactly at the top of my viewing schedule during the season. However, there is one reason to get him, and this alone may be enough:

http://www.nba.com/sonics/drobnjak/manjaks.html

That is nuts!

 

[slinslin]

In the games against the Suns he shot the ball very well but his athletic ability might be worse than Scott Williams right now and defensively he is no help.

I would rather have Elden Campbell.

I still think we should make a big for Alonzo especially if we could work out a sign and trade.

 

[Chaplin]

Forget about Mourning. There won't be a sign and trade. Today is the first day of Free Agency and already Dallas and Denver, two teams that can give him a lot more money than us, have already contacted him.

I would prefer Elden Campbell as well, but odds are that Drobnjak would be cheaper.

 

[slinslin]

Elden Campbell can likely be had for the veteran minimum. If I am not totally wrong the league pays the biggest part of a veteran minimum contract not even the team.
That's the cheapest player you can have and with the few money that teams have to spend it is unlikely that Campbell will get anything more than that after he hardly played last season.

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by slinslin
Elden Campbell can likely be had for the veteran minimum. If I am not totally wrong the league pays the biggest part of a veteran minimum contract not even the team.
That's the cheapest player you can have and with the few money that teams have to spend it is unlikely that Campbell will get anything more than that after he hardly played last season.

I think Campbell will not get just the vet minimum because he is still a big man, and big men who are still in theory in their prime have bigger demand than a journeyman who should probably retire.

 

[fordronken]

I would be extremely surprised to see anyone else, including undrafted rookies, making this team at all. They've already flat out said that Williams and Voskuhl will be re-signed.

Marbury
Barbosa
Hardaway
Johnson
Jacobsen
Marion
Cabarkapa
Stoudemire
Gugliotta
Outlaw
Williams
Voskuhl
Tsakalidis

That's already thirteen.

 

[slinslin]

Originally posted by Chaplin
I think Campbell will not get just the vet minimum because he is still a big man, and big men who are still in theory in their prime have bigger demand than a journeyman who should probably retire.

Drobnjak isn't a journeyman and shouldn't retire at 27.

 

[schutd]

Originally posted by fordronken
I would be extremely surprised to see anyone else, including undrafted rookies, making this team at all. They've already flat out said that Williams and Voskuhl will be re-signed.

Marbury
Barbosa
Hardaway
Johnson
Jacobsen
Marion
Cabarkapa
Stoudemire
Gugliotta
Outlaw
Williams
Voskuhl
Tsakalidis

That's already thirteen.

But there's no reason to expect that Googs, or Williams or even Jaconbsen, Carbarkapa or Babosa wont do some stinits on the IR. Why not go after someone like Campbell? Money. SO in the end I think you're right. But I imagine we will be trying to fill those 2 remaining spots.

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by slinslin
Drobnjak isn't a journeyman and shouldn't retire at 27.

I was talking about Elden Campbell vs. Scott Williams, not Drobnjak.

 

[SirStefan32]

I've watched Drobnjak for about 8 years now. He played for KK Partizan. I think hef would be a perfect fit for the Suns. He can knock down open 15- 18 footers all day. I would definitely rather have him than any other C on our roster.

Also, I really think it would help Zarko if he had another player from Serbia on the team.

 

[hcsilla]

I agree, Drobnjak would be a good addition for the Suns.

 

[Joe Mama]

I would rather have Drobjnak than any center on the Phoenix Suns roster. He isn't quite the ideal size for an NBA center, but in today's NBA it wouldn't matter most of the time.

Elden Campbell will absolutely get more than the veteran minimum. At the very least he will get a decent chunk of the mid-level exception. And if he takes anything less than that you will be so he can play with a team that is one of the top title contenders next season.

Joe Mama

 

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by Joe Mama


Elden Campbell will absolutely get more than the veteran minimum. At the very least he will get a decent chunk of the mid-level exception. And if he takes anything less than that you will be so he can play with a team that is one of the top title contenders next season.

Joe Mama

Like the Suns right...?

 

[jbeecham]

I'm still hoping the Suns won't re-sign Scott Williams. Sure he may be a hell of a nice guy and a good locker room presence, but he sucks on the court. Maybe he plays well 1 out of every 10 games and the rest of the time he has trouble moving and he keeps shooting and missing 18 ft jumpers. Hopefully the Suns will see there are better options out there even if they have to spend a little because they're going to be over the luxury tax limit anyways.

 

[fordronken]

How is the Drobber's defense?

 

[elindholm]

I'm still hoping the Suns won't re-sign Scott Williams. Sure he may be a hell of a nice guy and a good locker room presence, but he sucks on the court. Maybe he plays well 1 out of every 10 games and the rest of the time he has trouble moving and he keeps shooting and missing 18 ft jumpers. Hopefully the Suns will see there are better options out there even if they have to spend a little because they're going to be over the luxury tax limit anyways.

Amen to that!

 

[Chaplin]

It appears that Drobnjak had twice as many minutes per game than Scott, and the only stat that reflects this is his points per game, otherwise he is only marginally better in the other categories.

 

[slinslin]

I think Scott Williams should be a IR guy for this team and come in if someone gets injured. Other than that he should just work as someone who is working kinda between the coaches and the players, create a good atmosphere and should become an assistant coach in the future maybe.

 

[elindholm]

It appears that Drobnjak had twice as many minutes per game than Scott, and the only stat that reflects this is his points per game

Hmm, I hadn't looked at Drobnjak's stats, but his shooting percentage is surprisingly low -- as Chaplin points out, basically the same as Williams's. (Drobnjak's small number of three-point attempts isn't enough to explain his overall poor shooting.) Drobnjak picks up fouls less quickly (about the same number per game, in twice as much time), but other than that, they do indeed look pretty similar.

I'm no longer interested in Drobnjak. Shooting in the low 40's just isn't going to get it done for a Suns center, unless he is a great defensive presence, which Drobnjak obviously won't be. Having someone who "can" shoot from the perimeter isn't any use unless he's accurate enough to make defenses pay. At a 40% success rate, defenses can leave Drobnjak (or Williams) open all day -- and they will.

 

[Chaplin]

Holy crap, I just looked up Campbell's stats, and most of them are don't justify us getting him... (Maybe he WILL take the vet minimum--these are pathetic)

MPG
Scott: 12.4
Elden: 15.5

PPG
Scott: 4.0
Elden: 6.1

RPG
Scott: 2.8
Elden: 3.2

APG
Scott: .3
Elden: .9

FPG
Scott: 2.3
Elden: 2.3

FG%
Scott: .411
Elden: .397

FT%
Scott: .786
Elden: .801

 

[elindholm]

It's only last season that Campbell was terrible. I'm guessing that's because he was hurt a lot and never got his rhythm back. He was fine in '01-'02 and before.