Duel in the Desert

[Espo]

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Hey look the bad and the ugly are two teams ASU can't beat .

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Having attended both schools, I can safely say they're pretty much the same thing except the one in the worse town has more of a college feel which evens them out. They're both pretty much a joke academically, you're not going to get a great job right out of college at either unless you're connected or have terrific grades in a real college.

I'm also not too sure what "pew" means unless referring to UofA as church rows is insulting.

 

[Future1984]

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Hey look the bad and the ugly are two teams ASU can't beat .

Will see about the BAD on sat and the Ugly ASU cant compete with. I never said we could beat any of them, i was just posting Pics to have fun with.

 

[Renz]

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[NEZCardsfan]

I've never really liked ASU fans. I graduated from there, but I tend to distance myself from them. Ever since they made fun of Steve Kerr's dad they've disgusted me.

 

[Renz]

Carpenter says boos hurt ASU

Norm Frauenheim
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 21, 2006 12:00 AM

Arizona State's Rudy Carpenter said Monday that ASU fans have a right to be unhappy, but the Sun Devils quarterback said boos and empty seats damage recruiting.

Carpenter also said there is one way to end the booing.

"We stop it by winning," said Carpenter, who has one more chance at a victory in the regular season on Saturday against Arizona in Tucson. "But they're paying customers, I guess, and they want to see results. advertisement

"And when we're not giving them results, they are going to let us know."

The boos were loud, clear and nasty Saturday night during ASU's 24-12 loss to UCLA. If fans weren't booing, many were headed for the Sun Devil Stadium exits.

Carpenter said 18 recruits visiting for the UCLA game heard and saw the same thing as he and his teammates.

"I don't think that's going to sway them into being a Sun Devil," Carpenter said. "It's a Catch-22, in my opinion."

Carpenter said he couldn't see a day when ASU would enjoy the same kind of loyalty he sees at other schools.

 

[NEZCardsfan]

No Rudy, the stinker you left on the field against the Ducks and Bruins hurt recruiting.

But you and Koetter keep telling each other it's the fans.

 

[azmike74]

Good job Rudy, and whining like my 2 year old niece is always a good way to show toughness as well as get fans behind you.

 

[devilfan02]

I'm also not too sure what "pew" means unless referring to UofA as church rows is insulting.

The stench that comes from Northern Mexico, aka tucson.

I still think my favorite is when I see UofA fans wearing the Nike Shirts that say "Tucson" on em. They wear the freakin shirt with pride like Tucson is actually a cool place. I just laugh, don't even waste my time saying anything

 

[Renz]

From Bickley's blog:

The University of Arizona Juggernaut
11/20/2006 03:48:53

Lute Olson has built one of the best basketball programs in college basketball. Like death and taxes, Sun Devils fans have grown to accept this terrible fact of life.

But Mike Stoops turning into Vince Lombardi?

That one has to hurt.

Yes, if you smell fire, it's merely Arizona's football team. They're that hot. In successive weeks, they've beaten a ranked Washington State team, a ranked California team and a once-ranked Oregon team.

Two of those victories came on the road. Two came against upper echelon conference teams. And if you look at the Wildcats' schedule in its entirety, their blowout games are victories, not losses (see: Arizona State).

That Stoops and the Wildcats are emerging in Year 3 is not a fluke. That's when talented coaches usually turn around dormant programs hiding great potential. And it is lost on nobody that Stoops' colleague in Tempe, the Clouseau-like Dirk Koetter, has done far less in twice as long.

And yet Arizona's late-season surge could be the best thing that could happen to Koetter in the short term.

If ASU's beleaguered head coach can somehow wiggle out of Tucson with a victory, it might be perceived a really nice moment for the program. Beating Stoops now might actually mean something. And it might be all the ASU athletic department needs to put off Koetter's firing, one that would require a hefty contract buyout.

This is silly, of course. Already this season, Koetter blew a chance to beat USC because he didn't know the rules. Later in the season, he botched the call after winning the opening kickoff. And, somehow, this offensive mastermind has molded a team that can't score a touchdown at home against UCLA.

Koetter should be toast, destined to become a great offensive coordinator some place else. But you know how weird this rivalry can be. After all, in-game injuries prevented Stoops from beating Koetter last year in Tempe, a game in which the underdog Wildcats dominated for most of the day.

And that's the only reason we're still talking about Koetter in 2006.

 

[devilfan02]

Where were you 3 weeks ago, Renz? Thats what I thought.

Oh, go ahead and keep posting 2 day old articles that nearly all of us have already read.

And if you really buy into anything Bickley writes then I feel sorry for you. I mean he did just say Mike Stoops and Vince Lombardi in the same sentence, right? You do realize that this is the same guy that said ASU was going to go 10-2 this year and go to the Rose Bowl. He also said the Cardinals were going to go 10-6 and go to the playoffs. He also the same guy who only 5 months ago thought Love didn't make a mistake extending Koetter. His opinions drift whichever way the wind blows.

I really hope that ASU wins this game so all of you will revert back to your old avatars and stop annoying us on what was a good college forum. Typical of UofA fans to not show up till they win a couple games. Some UofA fans have been here through thick and thin but a majority of the new riff raff are simply on the bandwagon

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I really hope that ASU wins this game so all of you will revert back to your old avatars and stop annoying us on what was a good college forum. Typical of UofA fans to not show up till they win a couple games. Some UofA fans have been here through thick and thin but a majority of the new riff raff are simply on the bandwagon

Um, I know you have been here throughout this disastrous ASU season, but let's not play revisionist history and say only Arizona fans have been bandwagon jumping in 2006. There's quite a few ASU fans around here that have not surprisingly disappeared over stretches of the season and do the same during basketball.

And I've changed my avatar this week every year I've been on this board. Do it when ASU-UA play in basketball too.

 

[devilfan02]

Um, I know you have been here throughout this disastrous ASU season, but let's not play revisionist history and say only Arizona fans have been bandwagon jumping in 2006. There's quite a few ASU fans around here that have not surprisingly disappeared over stretches of the season and do the same during basketball.

And I've changed my avatar this week every year I've been on this board. Do it when ASU-UA play in basketball too.

Oh, I agree that it goes both ways. During the basketball season you (who is around during the ups and downs), and other UofA fans, should call out ASU fans who dissapear. I think it takes away from the rivalry when fans do this. It's easy for anyone to come around and run their mouth when their team is playing good but your a true fan when you stick it out through the tough times. I simply don't respect fans who only come around when the goings good

 

[Renz]

Where were you 3 weeks ago, Renz? Thats what I thought.

Oh, go ahead and keep posting 2 day old articles that nearly all of us have already read.

And if you really buy into anything Bickley writes then I feel sorry for you. I mean he did just say Mike Stoops and Vince Lombardi in the same sentence, right? You do realize that this is the same guy that said ASU was going to go 10-2 this year and go to the Rose Bowl. He also said the Cardinals were going to go 10-6 and go to the playoffs. He also the same guy who only 5 months ago thought Love didn't make a mistake extending Koetter. His opinions drift whichever way the wind blows.

I really hope that ASU wins this game so all of you will revert back to your old avatars and stop annoying us on what was a good college forum. Typical of UofA fans to not show up till they win a couple games. Some UofA fans have been here through thick and thin but a majority of the new riff raff are simply on the bandwagon

Check my old posts if you want. I post in the college forum all the time. Much more than you do, I'll bet.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Why ASU is better than UofA.

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[Renz]

Here are the attendance figures for football this season. It's nice to see UA out-drawing ASU with about 1/4 the population to draw from. I see a raise in Mike Stoops' future if this continues.

UA is 26th in the country in % of seats filled this year!

PS - Sorry devilfan02 if this post offends you. It absolutely was not my intent.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/ia_attendance.html

 

[Skkorpion]

The first year Stoops wins 8 or 9 games, he's gone. U of A is just a stepping stone school.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Here are the attendance figures for football this season. It's nice to see UA out-drawing ASU with about 1/4 the population to draw from. I see a raise in Mike Stoops' future if this continues.

UA is 26th in the country in % of seats filled this year!

PS - Sorry devilfan02 if this post offends you. It absolutely was not my intent.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/ia_attendance.html

Weak. UA averages less that 1,000 more per game, however, ASU plays in the same town as the Suns, Diamondbacks, Coyotes, and Cardinals. The only thing to do in Tucson other than go watch UA is playing skee ball at Peter Piper Pizza. If ASU football was the only game in town, it wouldn't even be close.

Good luck UA fan. I'll be in row one behind Dirk. I almost hope you win so I can yell at Koetter. Win or lose, both teams suck, but only one had a disappointing year, and that should tell you something.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Go Devils !!

 

[devilfan02]

Here are the attendance figures for football this season. It's nice to see UA out-drawing ASU with about 1/4 the population to draw from. I see a raise in Mike Stoops' future if this continues.

UA is 26th in the country in % of seats filled this year!

PS - Sorry devilfan02 if this post offends you. It absolutely was not my intent.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/ia_attendance.html

None taken!

See AZSouthendzone's post, he addressed everything that needs to be covered

 

[Renz]

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[Arizona's Finest]

The first year Stoops wins 8 or 9 games, he's gone. U of A is just a stepping stone school.

Completely agree - but he is going to leave the program in such good condition that we will have a better pool of candidates to choose from then we did when we chose him.

I bet you Mike Price is the choice if Stoops leaves after next year. That is if the season turns out like i hope it will with Tui as a junior and alot of experience.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

The first year Stoops wins 8 or 9 games, he's gone. U of A is just a stepping stone school.

So is ASU.

Arizona will match any offer coming Stoops way should he ever get courted by the big boys, but I can't blame a guy for leaving for a better opportunity.

 

[Lefty]

So is ASU.

Arizona will match any offer coming Stoops way should he ever get courted by the big boys, but I can't blame a guy for leaving for a better opportunity.

Stoops is going nowhere. He loves Tucson and has said the UofA is a place where he can build a program. He said being right next to California and Texas not so far away, he can bring in really good recruits. Plus, he just got an extension. The only school I see him going to right now would be Iowa. Finally, in Mike's contract, if by chance the Cats would win the national title, he becomes the highest paid coach by one dollar. Who knows, if the Cats would of beaten UCLA in 1998 they would of had a shot at the BCS title game.

 

[Skkorpion]

I went to Notre Dame and ASU and I support them both but I just can't get into the whole hating U of A thing. I hope the U of A does well, and unlike Danny White, I like Tucson.

This year, I want Stoops to win so Koetter gets the ax.