Earl Watford: "Im not here to sit on the sidelines"

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It's good that he has the physical talent to play. That's half the battle. It sounds like he has the desire which is another half. If he gets it down mentally, he'll have the last half and be a good player :D.

He can either become a Carl Nicks, and go on to become a high level OG, or a Serio Kelemete and never be heard from again.


Three halves?

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Is Watford K9's whipping boy du jour for 2014? Seems early to be making that choice. We still have to draft!
 

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Ambition isn't a bad thing

His statement sure beats something like "gosh, we will see if it works out"

He came from James Madison for goodness sake. Not playing his first year isn't the end of his career.
 

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Ambition isn't a bad thing

His statement sure beats something like "gosh, we will see if it works out"

He came from James Madison for goodness sake. Not playing his first year isn't the end of his career.

Agreed.

I think BA & Goodwin have standards that they won't back down on and first of all a player has to know the playbook. No mental mistakes allowed Massie and Watson.
 

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Best thing about that article was Harold Goodwin's explanation on why offensive linemen struggle coming into their first year in the league.

The simplified college game vs. the complex pro game.

Pretty eye opening stuff.
 

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Is Watford K9's whipping boy du jour for 2014? Seems early to be making that choice. We still have to draft!

It's his usual backhand at Keim.

K9 is/was 1) right about previous whipping boys, Ryan Williams and the OLB from Uconn; 2) one of the last to defend Keim's keeping Levi brown for as long as he did.
 

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Ambition isn't a bad thing

His statement sure beats something like "gosh, we will see if it works out"

He came from James Madison for goodness sake. Not playing his first year isn't the end of his career.

Ding Ding Ding
 

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I didn't say you can't or shouldn't root for him; I'm the guy who loves Jim Dray. I just don't get what the enthusiasm for him is across the board. Dude couldn't get on the field when Mike Gibson and Nate Potter somehow found a way. You'd hope that your fourth-round pick would find a way to get ahead of a guy who was a 7th rounder the prior year.

It's so weird that so many people are saying that 2013 was a great draft class based on the assumption that Jonathan Cooper is going to change games and that Earl Watford is going to be able to contribute and beat out Paul Fanika.

I am excited about Watford because getting excited about mid round offensive line draft picks is kinda what I do. That being said, the physical ability is there. The question mark is does he just know what to say when a mic is in his face OR does he have the attitude and mentality to stick on the roster? This fluff article hopefully reflects the latter, but we will see.

Regarding his lack of playing time in 2013, you are overstating it. The offensive line is predicated on seeing and diagnosing what your fellow offensive linemen are seeing as well as your QB. Couple that with the physical difference between the college and pro games, and it isn't surprising when small school, mid round picks take while to get it. Consider Bobby Massie has been shelved and could be cut because he makes mental mistakes despite having a decent stretch in 2012. Not surprising that the staff that does that will keep a rookie mid round pick out of James Madison on the bench in favor of veteran players.
 

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I don't see many (if any) predictions that Watford will be very good-to-great as a pro. Any reasonable fan understands that last season he was a project player, and would likely struggle if he got on the field. I don't hyper-focus on the fact that he didn't play last season. Rather, I look at the team cutting its most productive guard from last season in order to make room for a competition between Watford and Fanaika.

I'm not predicting anything, I'm just curious to see how it plays out. I hope for the best.
 

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I am excited about Watford because getting excited about mid round offensive line draft picks is kinda what I do. That being said, the physical ability is there. The question mark is does he just know what to say when a mic is in his face OR does he have the attitude and mentality to stick on the roster? This fluff article hopefully reflects the latter, but we will see.

Regarding his lack of playing time in 2013, you are overstating it. The offensive line is predicated on seeing and diagnosing what your fellow offensive linemen are seeing as well as your QB. Couple that with the physical difference between the college and pro games, and it isn't surprising when small school, mid round picks take while to get it. Consider Bobby Massie has been shelved and could be cut because he makes mental mistakes despite having a decent stretch in 2012. Not surprising that the staff that does that will keep a rookie mid round pick out of James Madison on the bench in favor of veteran players.

I dunno. I'm not sure that Faniaka is/was any more able to do that as a veteran who played 3 games two years prior than a guy who clearly the Cards valued much more highly--valued much, much more than Andre Ellington.

As for the physical differences--didn't you just say in the prior paragraph that Watford has all the physical ability to compete at this level?

Bobbie Massie got benched for a guy who has been a five-year starter in the NFL. It's not really in the same league as not being able to nudge Paul Fanaika out of the way, is it?
 

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I dunno. I'm not sure that Faniaka is/was any more able to do that as a veteran who played 3 games two years prior than a guy who clearly the Cards valued much more highly--valued much, much more than Andre Ellington.

As for the physical differences--didn't you just say in the prior paragraph that Watford has all the physical ability to compete at this level?

Bobbie Massie got benched for a guy who has been a five-year starter in the NFL. It's not really in the same league as not being able to nudge Paul Fanaika out of the way, is it?

It seems like the offensive system that the Cardinals used last year is difficult to learn. Especially for guys like Massie and Watford.

I'm wondering why the Cardinals don't target guys who are more cerebral on the OL? Massie came from the previous regeme so it's hard to lump into this group. However Watford was an Arians guy. Although to be fair it was his rookie season so I'd hope to see a big improvement come the start of training camp.

Clearly if Watford and Massie don't show improvement this preseason they are at risk of not making the roster. Having the oppertunity to visit practice several times last year one thing is clear, Arians has zero tolerance for mental mistakes!
 

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I dunno. I'm not sure that Faniaka is/was any more able to do that as a veteran who played 3 games two years prior than a guy who clearly the Cards valued much more highly--valued much, much more than Andre Ellington.

As for the physical differences--didn't you just say in the prior paragraph that Watford has all the physical ability to compete at this level?

Bobbie Massie got benched for a guy who has been a five-year starter in the NFL. It's not really in the same league as not being able to nudge Paul Fanaika out of the way, is it?

The comment about the physical difference between levels was a generalization more than an excuse for Watford.

Re: Massie. It wasn't that Massie got beat out by a vet, it's that Massie showed so much inconsistency that the Cards SPENT 3 mil to bring in a vet who had been cut by two other teams in two years.

Re: Fanaika. The principle is this, the Cardinals value consistency over physical ability across the offensive line. That has been shown with trading Levi Brown to play Sowell, and signing Winston late to play instead of Massie. It isn't a stretch to believe that Fanaika got snaps because he was more consistent and made less mental mistakes than a rookie out of James Madison despite Watford's superior physical ability. It sums that up in the article.

Where you have hope is that this is a make or break year for Watford and he is verbalizing his understanding of this. The formula for success in the NFL tends to be talent + motivation + opportunity. In Watford's case, he has talent, he will get the opportunity and he says he is motivated. If I am reading tea leaves and picking a "sleeper" starter, I pick Watford because of these factors.
 

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The comment about the physical difference between levels was a generalization more than an excuse for Watford.

Re: Massie. It wasn't that Massie got beat out by a vet, it's that Massie showed so much inconsistency that the Cards SPENT 3 mil to bring in a vet who had been cut by two other teams in two years.

Re: Fanaika. The principle is this, the Cardinals value consistency over physical ability across the offensive line. That has been shown with trading Levi Brown to play Sowell, and signing Winston late to play instead of Massie. It isn't a stretch to believe that Fanaika got snaps because he was more consistent and made less mental mistakes than a rookie out of James Madison despite Watford's superior physical ability. It sums that up in the article.

Where you have hope is that this is a make or break year for Watford and he is verbalizing his understanding of this. The formula for success in the NFL tends to be talent + motivation + opportunity. In Watford's case, he has talent, he will get the opportunity and he says he is motivated. If I am reading tea leaves and picking a "sleeper" starter, I pick Watford because of these factors.

More related to cost cutting than play.
 

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More related to cost cutting than play.

Winston was cut by the team that drafted him. He then signed to a 4yr deal worth 22mil and was cut 1 year later. He signed a 1 year deal with the Caridnals 7/25/13 and now sits unemployed as of 4/7/14.

The facts imply he was cut and is now unemployed for more than monetary reasons.
 

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Going to be interesting if he can work in as a backup right tackle in addition to guard. That kind of flexibility is needed in his situation right now.
 
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