Ed Oliver

[Cardinal]

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[Jetstream Green]

I posted a mock recently taking Oliver number one over all... and I stand by that observation

 

[TJ]

I posted a mock recently taking Oliver number one over all... and I stand by that observation

I would not mind

 

[splitsecond]

uhhhh his numbers at his pro day were in the same stratosphere as Aaron Donald. At the beginning of the year I thought this guy was a top 3 pick and I am back in that mindset now. holy smokes he can move.

 

[Arz101]

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That is a top 5 pick lock, wow

 

[Cardinal]

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[ARZCardinals]

Cardinals already have a QB.

lol ...now that's funny

If the Cards don't end up with Murray, Bosa, Allen or Q ...they failed

 

[Harry]

Gary was the best potential edge rusher coming out of high school. Once he got to college he never moved forward. He might develop but he’d be a huge risk early.

Oliver hasn’t disappeared he’s just viewed as something of a head case. He needed to polish his technique but retired from the field. I don’t know if he enjoys the game. I’m not sure he has the dedication to become an impact player. I’d pass.

 

[Cardinal]

Oliver hasn’t disappeared he’s just viewed as something of a head case. He needed to polish his technique but retired from the field. I don’t know if he enjoys the game. I’m not sure he has the dedication to become an impact player. I’d pass.

This is a ridiculous take. It’s hard to polish your technique as a pass rusher playing as a NT.

By head case, you’re obviously referring to the overblown jacket incident in which both parties admitted they were in wrong. Major Applewhite ended up getting fired after a 8-5 season because he couldn’t connect with the players.

Anyone questioning his passion for the game hasn’t watched him play. The dude has a nonstop motor, even when he’s not around the ball. There are plenty of plays where he’s running down RBs and WRs down the field.

He had a minor knee injury in the middle of his junior season. He had two completely healthy years of film in his pocket. He should’ve shut it down and got ready for the draft, but came back and tried to play a month later to help his team get into the conference championship game.

 

[Ohcrap75]

This is a ridiculous take. It’s hard to polish your technique as a pass rusher playing as a NT.

By head case, you’re obviously referring to the overblown jacket incident in which both parties admitted they were in wrong. Major Applewhite ended up getting fired after a 8-5 season because he couldn’t connect with the players.

Anyone questioning his passion for the game hasn’t watched him play. The dude has a nonstop motor, even when he’s not around the ball. There are plenty of plays where he’s running down RBs and WRs down the field.

He had a minor knee injury in the middle of his junior season. He had two completely healthy years of film in his pocket. He should’ve shut it down and got ready for the draft, but came back and tried to play a month later to help his team get into the conference championship game.

Quinnen Williams played nose tackle one season and has some of the best technique in years. Great technique is important to every position.

 

[Ohcrap75]

I posted a mock recently taking Oliver number one over all... and I stand by that observation

You can see on tape that he is an elite athlete. No reason to raise/lower grade because his pro day just confirms. I respect that you go by what YOU see! That's the fun part about this process!

 

[Cardinal]

Quinnen Williams played nose tackle one season and has some of the best technique in years. Great technique is important to every position.

Also helps you can learn behind 1st round talent and have highly rated prospects playing alongside you. Ed started as a true freshman at UH with no one even close to his skill set, then his coaches left for UT. Lacking technique can be coached.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Also helps you can learn behind 1st round talent and have highly rated prospects playing alongside you. Ed started as a true freshman at UH with no one even close to his skill set, then his coaches left for UT. Lacking technique can be coached.

Quinnen added almost 30lbs in the offseason to move inside from DE. Technique can be coached, but just like route running for WR, there's no guarantee it happens.

 

[Jetstream Green]

You can see on tape that he is an elite athlete. No reason to raise/lower grade because his pro day just confirms. I respect that you go by what YOU see! That's the fun part about this process!

I saw a guy being moved around, all alone for the most part, and being even triple teamed on some plays and he kept up the pressure in the gut of the offense... his stats do not tell the true story, so yeah I like the guy in the first

 

[DVontel]

Quinnen Williams played nose tackle one season and has some of the best technique in years. Great technique is important to every position.

Quinnen played DT, not NT. Oliver idiotically by the coaches played NT.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Quinnen played DT, not NT. Oliver idiotically by the coaches played NT.

He played plenty of nose!

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...illiams-already-one-of-alabamas-all-time-best

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-afterthought-now-set-nfl-stardom/2493213002/

 

[Ohcrap75]

If we were to draft EO, I wonder if we would use him like the Texans use Clowney? Basically is a floater until right before the snap, so offense has a hard time accounting for him pre snap. I would suggest the same with Rashaan Gary. He could be called a "defensive weapon"

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Finito]

He’s kind of the forgotten man in this draft but if you had told me at the beginning of the college Season Ed Oliver was going to be a Cardinal I would have been happy as all ....

If we trade back he’s definitely a guy we should target. I wonder if he’s fast enough to play standing up

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

lol ...now that's funny

If the Cards don't end up with Murray, Bosa, Allen or Q ...they failed

I will get on board with whoever they draft, even Murray. They have too many other team needs to draft another QB, especially when they already have Rosen & can trade down & acquire more picks.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Gary was the best potential edge rusher coming out of high school. Once he got to college he never moved forward. He might develop but he’d be a huge risk early.

Oliver hasn’t disappeared he’s just viewed as something of a head case. He needed to polish his technique but retired from the field. I don’t know if he enjoys the game. I’m not sure he has the dedication to become an impact player. I’d pass.

I seriously respect you Harry, but from all the years of reading your posts, it seems like you are dialed into a lot of the old school, conservative football brains.

 

[WildBB]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/futures/2019/futures-ed-oliver

I haven't heard his name around the board for a while, but if we trade back a few spots and don't take a quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up the steal of the draft.

He has the best chance of anyone to be Donaldesque. Put him on the weak side with Chandler Jones ~ scary.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Gary was the best potential edge rusher coming out of high school. Once he got to college he never moved forward. He might develop but he’d be a huge risk early.

Oliver hasn’t disappeared he’s just viewed as something of a head case. He needed to polish his technique but retired from the field. I don’t know if he enjoys the game. I’m not sure he has the dedication to become an impact player. I’d pass.

Everything screams awesome on Oliver except the fact he might go spellman/nkemdiche. Pass.

 

[Finito]

Everything screams awesome on Oliver except the fact he might go spellman/nkemdiche. Pass.

How do you figure?

Nkimdiche literally got high and jumped out of a window before the draft and never really produced in college what about Ed Oliver says he’s this type of person or player

 

[Krangodnzr]

How do you figure?

Nkimdiche literally got high and jumped out of a window before the draft and never really produced in college what about Ed Oliver says he’s this type of person or player

Yeah I'm with you on this. Oliver is a personality, but what a freak athlete.