Evaluating Triano

[Covert Rain]

I think they should listen to any opinion Booker has but not necessarily let him have a say.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

YEAH I’m fine with booker having an opinion, but let’s be honest, he was a one and done in college and he’s not an 8 year vet. He’ll he’s not even a 5 year vet. What does he know about good or bad coaches yet? His experience is so limited that it makes any “input” he has of very limited use.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I had written a response yesterday, but I guess I never posted it. I am fine with McD consulting Booker and saying so. He is just saying what everyone knows anyway. The next coach of this team has to mesh well with Devin Booker. Booker doesn't get to pick him, but if Booker is unhappy with the choice, it could be disastrous.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm fine with Booker being consulted in making coaching and personnel decisions. Booker is mature beyond his age particularly when it comes to basketball.

Although he is young, he is already the cornerstone of the Suns franchise. Also he may be helpful in recruiting players to add to the team. Players around the league already know and respect him.

 

[Superbone]

I'm ready to move on from Triano after last nights Spurs game debacle. You don't let your players take fade away, contested jumpers for 90% of their offense while the Spurs work the ball around and get wide open shots every time down the court. I guarantee Pop could have a roster of all G League players and he wouldn't let them get away with that sh*t.

 

[pokerface]

I'm ready to move on from Triano after last nights Spurs game debacle. You don't let your players take fade away, contested jumpers for 90% of their offense while the Spurs work the ball around and get wide open shots every time down the court. I guarantee Pop could have a roster of all G League players and he wouldn't let them get away with that sh*t.

I have to agree with your assessment but then again Pop is a legend that most teams cant match. Triano is refreshing compared to Watson.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I have to agree with your assessment but then again Pop is a legend that most teams cant match. Triano is refreshing compared to Watson.

Triano is better than Watson, but he is obviously not a miracle worker and this team's defense is atrocious. Young teams with lots of injuries will get blown out from time to time, and the HUGE blowouts, well, sometimes its not your day and its hard to remain in it.

Triano should be graded on his overall body of work with this team. At this point, its sorta OK. But is "sorta OK" what we want in a coach?

I am leaning toward a full interview process now.

 

[Hoop Head]

Triano really shouldn't be graded that much. He's only the interim coach. He's an improvement over Watson. Getting blown out by the Spurs is different than being blown out by the Lakers. Triano won't be the head coach next year but he's been better as the interim coach than what teams usually get stuck with, like Lindsey Hunter. I don't think a team has ever fired their interim coach before and I highly doubt the Suns would can Triano. Losses like against San Antonio are just marks against him if he decides to throw his hat the in ring for the head coaching job next year, which he's been pretty straight forward about not wanting that position because he doesn't like some of the responsibilities head coaches have in terms of dealing with the media and being a 24 hour a day job.

 

[leclerc]

Pay a world class coach (dreaming is free) and let Triano be assistant coach. Then demote McD and get a respected GM and a new scouting corps.






Yeah right.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Triano is better than Watson, but he is obviously not a miracle worker and this team's defense is atrocious. Young teams with lots of injuries will get blown out from time to time, and the HUGE blowouts, well, sometimes its not your day and its hard to remain in it.

Triano should be graded on his overall body of work with this team. At this point, its sorta OK. But is "sorta OK" what we want in a coach?

Why not? Pretty awful seems to be good enough for GM for most people here.

 

[Mainstreet]

Triano would like to remain the Suns head coach.

The Suns could certainly do much worse than keeping Triano but I would want him on a contract that provides yearly team options.

Minimally I would like to see him retained as an assistant head coach.

“I hope so,” he told Doug & Wolf on 98.7 FM Arizona’s Sports Station. “I love this area, I love this team, I love the players here. When you work with them everyday like I do, I think you want to start to build that relationship. I want to see them do well, I want to see them excel.

“I came here with that purpose in mind — not necessarily to be the head coach — but now that I’ve had the opportunity, I’d like to see this through and see where we go. There’s not one thing I dislike about what’s happened so far except the losing, but I want to be part of that as we try to fix that moving forward.”

http://arizonasports.com/story/1431860/jay-triano-his-future-suns-id-like-to-see-this-through/

 

[Mainstreet]

In the above referenced article Triano plans to give Bender more time at center... a move I like... to see
“how versatile he can be as a player moving forward.”

http://arizonasports.com/story/1431860/jay-triano-his-future-suns-id-like-to-see-this-through/

 

[elindholm]

Triano would like to remain the Suns head coach.

The Suns could certainly do much worse than keeping Triano but I would want him on a contract that provides yearly team options.

Minimally I would like to see him retained as an assistant head coach.

Surprising. When he was elevated at the start of this season, he said something about how he wasn't a candidate for a longer-term job and didn't see himself as head coaching material. It's hard to see how a bunch of blowout losses would have changed his mind. I think he has done a good job in some ways, but it's disturbing that the team's psychological makeup is still so fragile. My guess is that Triano would rather be the head coach than unemployed, and he figures his chances of being retained as an assistant under someone else are slim, so he's playing the only card he has.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Surprising. When he was elevated at the start of this season, he said something about how he wasn't a candidate for a longer-term job and didn't see himself as head coaching material. It's hard to see how a bunch of blowout losses would have changed his mind. I think he has done a good job in some ways, but it's disturbing that the team's psychological makeup is still so fragile. My guess is that Triano would rather be the head coach than unemployed, and he figures his chances of being retained as an assistant under someone else are slim, so he's playing the only card he has.

He said when he was hired that he doesn't like being a head coach because he does not like dealing with the media. But in an interview very recently he has embraced the job and wants to continue what he has been doing. I will give him the benefit and say it is a little bit more than just about a paycheck. I think he has connected with these guys and he feels like his is accomplishing something and wants to continue it.

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm all for Triano being retained as an assistant but don't think he should be the head coach next year. The recent blowouts don't change that either. He's got a good basketball mind and I'm sure this team would be better if had a full offseason to prepare them for what his plans offensively and defensively were but he got dealt a pretty crummy hand taking over 3 games into the year.

His presence on the bench could be an issue for the next head coach though. Players look at him as the coach now and it'd be weird to demote him. It may cause the new head coach issues winning some guys over and also cause them to think their replacement is on their staff. It would be different if he were young but he's not.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Some of you want to see major change with this team... but not change the GM... or the Coach... and just add another young talented player.

I don't get it. Change only happens when MAJOR change happens.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm all for Triano being retained as an assistant but don't think he should be the head coach next year. The recent blowouts don't change that either. He's got a good basketball mind and I'm sure this team would be better if had a full offseason to prepare them for what his plans offensively and defensively were but he got dealt a pretty crummy hand taking over 3 games into the year.

His presence on the bench could be an issue for the next head coach though. Players look at him as the coach now and it'd be weird to demote him. It may cause the new head coach issues winning some guys over and also cause them to think their replacement is on their staff. It would be different if he were young but he's not.

You can't hire a head coach and then tell him that the former head coach (even interim) has to be his assistant.

 

[Chaplin]

Triano will either be our head coach or will be elsewhere, there's no in-between.

Personally, having fired Watson after helming the team to 40-point losses should apply to any coach, and in Triano's case, buh-bye.

 

[Hoop Head]

You can't hire a head coach and then tell him that the former head coach (even interim) has to be his assistant.

I know that, that's why I said I could see it being an issue. It'd be nice to keep him as an assistant but it's unlikely that will happen. The only way I can see that happening is if the Suns brought in someone like Nash as the head coach who has a good history with Triano and would probably consider him as an assistant regardless of Triano's stint as the Suns head coach.

Maybe he could be the head coach of our G-League team if the Suns want to keep him with the organization in some capacity.

 

[JCSunsfan]

About Triano. I think the issue is not if we really want to keep him or not, its do we have have another candidate who is clearly a better choice and we know wants to be here. I think it has to be a clearly a better choice. All ties or close to ties go to Triano. He already clearly has a chemistry with this team and has shown the ability to develop players.

Doing something different, just to do something different does not make sense here IMO.

 

[Chaplin]

About Triano. I think the issue is not if we really want to keep him or not, its do we have have another candidate who is clearly a better choice and we know wants to be here. I think it has to be a clearly a better choice. All ties or close to ties go to Triano. He already clearly has a chemistry with this team and has shown the ability to develop players.

Doing something different, just to do something different does not make sense here IMO.

He also has 2 40-point losses. We can't ignore the fact that he can't do anything with Chriss, and Tyler Ulis and Davon Reed are taking up space. Still hope for Reed, but Ulis to me is a lost cause at this point and the coaching is doing him no favors.

 

[Phrazbit]

We need a new coach. I'd hope they go big and try to get Jay Wright.

 

[JCSunsfan]

He also has 2 40-point losses. We can't ignore the fact that he can't do anything with Chriss, and Tyler Ulis and Davon Reed are taking up space. Still hope for Reed, but Ulis to me is a lost cause at this point and the coaching is doing him no favors.

Again. I am fine with a change as long as it is a clearly better choice. If we end up with a Jason Kidd or a Mark Jackson as the candidates, I would rather just stick with Triano.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Again. I am fine with a change as long as it is a clearly better choice. If we end up with a Jason Kidd or a Mark Jackson as the candidates, I would rather just stick with Triano.

man... this is so frustrating reading, over and over again. I'm trying to think of another way to describe so as not to offend, but being scared of finding a coach who won't be at the helm of multiple 40 point blowouts, one of the worst defenses in the league... a laughingstock... is just so defeatist.

and it also says something about your opinion of McD, whether you mean it to or not. Even if Sarver is ultimately holding the purse strings, if you don't want to make a move because we could get someone worse, that's an indictment on McD's ability to hire coaches. And yet... you want that GM to stick around to make the decision. This mindset is mind-boggling to me.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE IF WE DON'T MAKE MAJOR CHANGES.

 

[Cheesebeef]

About Triano. I think the issue is not if we really want to keep him or not, its do we have have another candidate who is clearly a better choice and we know wants to be here. I think it has to be a clearly a better choice. All ties or close to ties go to Triano. He already clearly has a chemistry with this team and has shown the ability to develop players.

Doing something different, just to do something different does not make sense here IMO.

if McD can't find anyone better than the status quo... ah, never mind. I already said my peace above.