Krangodnzr
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Which Movie is better?
Evil Dead
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Evil Dead - what a great flick!
Shawn
Shawn
Every one of them is awesome.
I think Ash had the best character in AoD though.
When I saw the 1st one, I thought it was so scary, a long time ago.
Chaplin
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Gotta be #2... little or no budget, bad acting, great camp humor...
Evil Dead 1 was great, production value a little low and intended to be more serious than it was, trying to be a "horror" movie, rathter than a "horror-comedy". AoD was extreme camp, and wasn't even really a horror movie anymore...
Evil Dead 2 was basically a combo of both 1 and 3.
Evil Dead 1 was great, production value a little low and intended to be more serious than it was, trying to be a "horror" movie, rathter than a "horror-comedy". AoD was extreme camp, and wasn't even really a horror movie anymore...
Evil Dead 2 was basically a combo of both 1 and 3.
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Krangodnzr
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I would agree.
I stumbled on to Evil Dead in the late eighties or very early nineties. I wasn't even a teenager yet
, but my parent's always let me watch anything I wanted.Evil Dead has the best balance of comedy and horror, and didn't have the "bells and whistles" of the 3rd installment, but imo was a much better movie.
All three are good in their own right, though Evil Dead's special effects are so bad that it really hurts the film.
I remember when AOD came out, all the kids at school were talking about it. I rented it and got to the part where he chopped his arm off and put on a chainsaw and thought that is sucked ass..... A few years later I finally sat down and watched it and thought it was funny
Chaplin
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Are you sure that was Army of Darkness? Ash puts the chainsaw on his arm in Evil Dead 2--the prologue in AoD talks about it, but he had the chainsaw on his arm at the beginning of that movie.
Cardinals.Ken
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"Evil Dead" is a testament to the American dream. Sam Raimi shopped the idea and some sample shots all over the mid-west to garner funding for the film. Not only that, he had to market it on his own to idividual theatre owners, in the beginning at least.
Through drive and determination, Raimi thrust himself (and childhood chum Bruce Campbell) into the Hollywood scene.
"Evil Dead II" was basically a remake of of "Evil Dead" with a bigger budget and a couple of new ideas.
"Army of Darkness" is, of course, the best of the three. The first time I saw it was as a video rental when I was visiting back in Washington. I was laughing so hard and loud that other people in the Hotel around my room complained about the noise. When the front-desk called, I explained I was watching a movie. They asked I watch it in the morning.
"See this? This is my BOOM STICK! The 12-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that? "
Through drive and determination, Raimi thrust himself (and childhood chum Bruce Campbell) into the Hollywood scene.
"Evil Dead II" was basically a remake of of "Evil Dead" with a bigger budget and a couple of new ideas.
"Army of Darkness" is, of course, the best of the three. The first time I saw it was as a video rental when I was visiting back in Washington. I was laughing so hard and loud that other people in the Hotel around my room complained about the noise. When the front-desk called, I explained I was watching a movie. They asked I watch it in the morning.
"See this? This is my BOOM STICK! The 12-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that? "
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Good stuff man! I just watched the Boomstick Edition of this movie this past week and I thorougly enjoyed it. I'd seen the movie several times before, but it had been awhile.
Did you read Bruce Campbell's book If Chins Could Kill? Every single page is hilarious.
Shawn
Chaplin
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Why do you say that? Because it had a bigger budget? Yes, Evil Dead 2 was pretty much a remake, but by that time, Raimi and Bruce weren't in Hollywood as yet. It was Evil Dead 2 that actually proclaimed their arrival. In fact, until Evil Dead 2 was released, nobody had even really seen Evil Dead 1. It was the 2nd film that spiked video rentals of the first film.
Upon first viewing, I didn't like Army of Darkness. I still think it's the weakest of the three--if for different reasons.
I liked the first one because it was young filmmakers taking a huge chance, and looking like they had an absolute ball making a really low budget horror flick, that brought about its suspense by cool little camera tricks rather than traditional knife-wielding psychopaths--it was the "anti-Halloween".
The second one, as I said before, inserted the unique brand of humor into the series. Evil Dead 2 is everything that first movie wanted to be, but didn't quite achieve. All the requisite ideas that were expanded in AoD were in Evil Dead 2, the main one of course is the adopting of the chainsaw. But Bruce's fight against his own hand is absolutely brilliant--there's nothing that innovative in Army of Darkness.
As for Army of Darkness itself, it was an opportunity for Sam to really expand. And in so doing, he was able to eliminate some of what made the first two movies so exciting. No more did he have to rely on crazy camera tricks or obscure acting cues to produce the horror. Now, he had the money to actually insert the special effects. I guess, to sum up, Army of Darkness didn't seem "personal" enough for me, not like the first two films did. It's still a fun movie, don't get me wrong, with some great b-movie writing, but I just liked part 2 better because it combined what was so good in both Evil Dead 1 and Army of Darkness.
Cardinals.Ken
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I found "Army of Darkness" to be the most entertaining.
From interviews I've seen and read of Sam Raimi, that is the only criteria for a film.
I found Raimi's use of camera tricks, humorous dialogue, and references to other films not in the horror genre made this film stand out above the other two.
I do see where you're coming from Chap. The beginning let me down big time. I was expecting "Army of Darkness" to pick right up where "Evil Dead II" left off, just like "Evil Dead II" did with "Evil Dead". The whole rehashing of the storyline was a bit of a cop-out.
But in retrospect, I believe this to be Raimi's intention, to set it apart from the previous two installments in the series. Perhaps Raimi looked at this as an attempt to "mainstream" the "Evil Dead" franchise.
Entertaining product is one thing, maintaining artistic integrity is another, but everyone, and I mean everyone, succumbs to the money-bug at some point.
Except Mudhoney...but that's a subject for a music thread...
Chaplin
Better off silent
Well, I see what you're saying, but unfortunately, at the time of Army of Darkness's release, the previous Evil Dead movies were almost unknown to the normal audience. In fact, I didn't even know it was Evil Dead Part 3 until I actually saw the other Evil Deads. So, in retrospect, even though we all know a ton about the movies now, back in 1992 nobody really knew anything about Sam Raimi and the Evil Dead series. In that respect, the prologue is justified.
Just the very fact that Army of Darkness was a bigger budget, "Hollywood" movie raised the money-making potential, and thus, more accessible to a "modern" and larger audience.
Just the very fact that Army of Darkness was a bigger budget, "Hollywood" movie raised the money-making potential, and thus, more accessible to a "modern" and larger audience.
Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
Ah, a subject near and dear to my heart! I enjoyed all of the movies for a different reason.
The original Evil Dead was a very creative horror movie that was very well done especially when look back at the circumstances surrounding the film such as an extremely low budget and the fact that it was the first project for Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell after just finishing film school. Still entertaing though!
Army of Darkness was plain and simply hilarious! The constant one-liners and slapstick were classic. This is the first part of the trilogy that I saw and what got me hooked.
However, I have to go with the majority and vote for Evil Dead 2. It was the perfect mixture of the gorey horror film that Evil Dead tried to be (of course with better special effects) and the comedy that showed throughout Army of Darkness (the slapstick comedy from the battle with his own severed hand is classic as well as the one-liners that we remember the character of Ash for).
Well, there is a little more to it than just that...
1) As Chap brought up, for the over whelming majority of the public, people had not heard of the first 2 parts of the trilogy. Therefore it was needed to bring people up to speed on the plot.
2) Now here's where it gets a little tricky...Army of Darkness was originally titled Evil Dead 3: Army of Darkness by creator and director Sam Raimi. However the third enstallment of the trilogy was done by a different studio, and the new studio refused to take the name of "Evil Dead" and add it to the film probably due to fear of a law-suit from the studio of part 2 (remember at the time that the 3 movies, especially the first 2, were created the copyright laws for the entertainment business weren't that clearly defined). Although Raimi fought hard to keep the "Evil Dead" name in the title, he simply decided to simply drop it from the title rather than delay the film! Hence, he probably thought that the rehashing of the storyline from part 2 was a necessity!
Yeah no kidding...now Sam Raimi is off directing the big budget Spiderman movies probably meaning that he'll never create "Evil Dead 4"...DOH!!
Well at least I have the videogames like "Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick" to help with my need for more "Evil Dead"! 
The original Evil Dead was a very creative horror movie that was very well done especially when look back at the circumstances surrounding the film such as an extremely low budget and the fact that it was the first project for Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell after just finishing film school. Still entertaing though!
Army of Darkness was plain and simply hilarious! The constant one-liners and slapstick were classic. This is the first part of the trilogy that I saw and what got me hooked.
However, I have to go with the majority and vote for Evil Dead 2. It was the perfect mixture of the gorey horror film that Evil Dead tried to be (of course with better special effects) and the comedy that showed throughout Army of Darkness (the slapstick comedy from the battle with his own severed hand is classic as well as the one-liners that we remember the character of Ash for).
Well, there is a little more to it than just that...
1) As Chap brought up, for the over whelming majority of the public, people had not heard of the first 2 parts of the trilogy. Therefore it was needed to bring people up to speed on the plot.
2) Now here's where it gets a little tricky...Army of Darkness was originally titled Evil Dead 3: Army of Darkness by creator and director Sam Raimi. However the third enstallment of the trilogy was done by a different studio, and the new studio refused to take the name of "Evil Dead" and add it to the film probably due to fear of a law-suit from the studio of part 2 (remember at the time that the 3 movies, especially the first 2, were created the copyright laws for the entertainment business weren't that clearly defined). Although Raimi fought hard to keep the "Evil Dead" name in the title, he simply decided to simply drop it from the title rather than delay the film! Hence, he probably thought that the rehashing of the storyline from part 2 was a necessity!
Yeah no kidding...now Sam Raimi is off directing the big budget Spiderman movies probably meaning that he'll never create "Evil Dead 4"...DOH!!
Well at least I have the videogames like "Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick" to help with my need for more "Evil Dead"!
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
I find your avatar disturbing, yet cool Evil Ash. Perhaps Arthur will have a "Most Disturbing Yet Cool Avatar" poll.
So long as no one uses the possessed Reagan from the Excorsist, I think I'll be able to maintain my sanity...
So long as no one uses the possessed Reagan from the Excorsist, I think I'll be able to maintain my sanity...
Cardinals.Ken
That's Mr. Riff-Raff to you!
Perhaps Sammy could intigrate the two together...maybe have Spidey team up with Ashley J. Williams to take on the army of the dead that was unknowingly unleashed by Kingpin...
mdamien13
Go Cardinals! Yay!!!
Evil Dead 2 is one of my all-time favorite movies. Everything about it is so over the top and awesome. Good splatter action, some hilarious moments (the fight with the headless, chainsaw-wielding corpse is AWESOME!). I loved all three, but part 2 is the most complete movie IMO.
Another reason Sam Raimi is my hero - he filmed most of the second half of Evil Dead without the actresses. They were so distraught with conditions of filming that he told them to walk if they didn't like it - so they did. He promptly threw Bruce Campbell and his little brother, Ted, into dresses and wigs and went at it without them. If you look at the credits, everyone who stood in for an actress is credited as "Fake Shremf (sp)" in homage to the 3 Stooges. Check out "The Evil Dead Companion" at a local bookstore for all kinds of things you probably didn't know about the movies.
Another reason Sam Raimi is my hero - he filmed most of the second half of Evil Dead without the actresses. They were so distraught with conditions of filming that he told them to walk if they didn't like it - so they did. He promptly threw Bruce Campbell and his little brother, Ted, into dresses and wigs and went at it without them. If you look at the credits, everyone who stood in for an actress is credited as "Fake Shremf (sp)" in homage to the 3 Stooges. Check out "The Evil Dead Companion" at a local bookstore for all kinds of things you probably didn't know about the movies.
mdamien13
Go Cardinals! Yay!!!
Oh, and I found this over at www.creature-corner.com Apparently they performed this over at a horror/sci-fi convention in Chicago this past weekend.
EVIL DEAD! THE MUSICAL
I can't express to you how dead-on this was, except to say that it was an amazingly reverent parody. I laughed before one word of dialogue was spoken - before one note was sung-
There was a Scary Movie poster on the cabin wall - torn in half. Nice.
The production was basically a Cliff's Notes version of the film, introducing characters in the car, getting them to the cabin, playing the Knowby tape, and unleashing Deadite evil. The first song was a jaunty little number (about how the cabin kids just want to get away from the distractions of civilization) entitled "Within the Woods". From there, a horned-out Scotty and Shelly enact the prelude to their sloppy mating ritual entitled "Let's Go Screw" - sung to the tune of "A Whole New World" from Disney's Aladdin. "Oh Linda" was a "Summer Nights" style ode to Ash and Linda's love, which featured Ehren Fournier's Ash explaining:
"And the best thing of all is that you love me the same/although I'm kind of a wimp/and I have a girl's name."
This number led us into Cheryl's exploration of the malevolent woods, and what had to be the most obvious - and yet, most hysterical - performance in the piece.
When Cheryl (Dorislee Jackson) is attacked and raped by trees, slap-bass 70's porno funk and a bit of orgasmic moaning turns a particularly sleazy and brutal scene from the film into a particularly sleazy and hilarious dance sequence.
It is exactly what any of us would have done if we were forced to turn that sequence into musical comedy, and it was perhaps the idea that they were doing the whole thing exactly as you and your friends pictured it must be - should you have been possessed of the demented spark of genius in the first place - made it that much more a triumph - it was something every goofball kid could share in.
There were references to Jesus Christ Superstar, Michael Jackson's Thriller - and so much more. The fact that Fournier spent nearly all of the Deadite attacks-as-dance choreography lying on the floor wrestling with the weakest, flimsiest bookcase you've ever seen should confirm for you the level of detail…and cheese…and reverence - director (and NMTC Artistic Head) Chad Wise and his cast were aspiring to.
The rest of the Musical was just as fab, and its finale was met with rousing applause.
EVIL DEAD! THE MUSICAL
I can't express to you how dead-on this was, except to say that it was an amazingly reverent parody. I laughed before one word of dialogue was spoken - before one note was sung-
There was a Scary Movie poster on the cabin wall - torn in half. Nice.
The production was basically a Cliff's Notes version of the film, introducing characters in the car, getting them to the cabin, playing the Knowby tape, and unleashing Deadite evil. The first song was a jaunty little number (about how the cabin kids just want to get away from the distractions of civilization) entitled "Within the Woods". From there, a horned-out Scotty and Shelly enact the prelude to their sloppy mating ritual entitled "Let's Go Screw" - sung to the tune of "A Whole New World" from Disney's Aladdin. "Oh Linda" was a "Summer Nights" style ode to Ash and Linda's love, which featured Ehren Fournier's Ash explaining:
"And the best thing of all is that you love me the same/although I'm kind of a wimp/and I have a girl's name."
This number led us into Cheryl's exploration of the malevolent woods, and what had to be the most obvious - and yet, most hysterical - performance in the piece.
When Cheryl (Dorislee Jackson) is attacked and raped by trees, slap-bass 70's porno funk and a bit of orgasmic moaning turns a particularly sleazy and brutal scene from the film into a particularly sleazy and hilarious dance sequence.
It is exactly what any of us would have done if we were forced to turn that sequence into musical comedy, and it was perhaps the idea that they were doing the whole thing exactly as you and your friends pictured it must be - should you have been possessed of the demented spark of genius in the first place - made it that much more a triumph - it was something every goofball kid could share in.
There were references to Jesus Christ Superstar, Michael Jackson's Thriller - and so much more. The fact that Fournier spent nearly all of the Deadite attacks-as-dance choreography lying on the floor wrestling with the weakest, flimsiest bookcase you've ever seen should confirm for you the level of detail…and cheese…and reverence - director (and NMTC Artistic Head) Chad Wise and his cast were aspiring to.
The rest of the Musical was just as fab, and its finale was met with rousing applause.
Army of Darkness is my pick... Evil Dead and the Remake of Evil Dead (Evil Dead II) are classics.
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Krangodnzr
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I completely agree with everything Chaplin said above. Evil Dead 2 is far and away the best of the three - the hand scene is one of the greatest in cinema.
Evil Ash
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Thanks, that kind of what I was going for! Its difficult in the "Evil Dead" trilogy to find a picture of Evil Ash where he's not covered in blood!
Although I have to admit the avatar that I use now was not my first choice! My original choice was my favorite moment in the trilogy in "Evil Dead 2" when Ash is fighting his severed hand and the severed hand flips him off!! However, I'll go on a limb and say that the moderators of the boards wouldn't be too pleased with that choice!
That would be cool. However, I think I would lose to SeattleCardsFan by a LARGE...LARGE margin!
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Touche, mon ami!
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That would be cool. However, I think I would lose to SeattleCardsFan by a LARGE...LARGE margin!
Yeah, what the hell is his avatar - that's just not right!
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I never saw any of them. Are they worth a rental? Which one should I see first?
What's the story line?
What's the story line?
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Great movies - I think we rented Evil Dead that Memorial Day weekend over @ DJs. We watched it like 7 times.
A mysterious book is found while a bunch of people are in a cabin in the woods. from an IMDB post: "Five friends go to a cabin in the woods for a vacation. They discover The Book of the Dead and a tape recorder belonging to a professor, who also owns the cabin. One of them plays back what is recorded on the tape-- which just happens to be Candarian resurrection passages translated from the Necronomicon (Book of the Dead) by the professor, which unleashes an evil force from the woods. The people start turning into evil deadites, and the others soon learn from the tape that the only way to kill a person who is turned into a deadite is by total body dismemberment."
for ED2 "A sequel/remake of the film The Evil Dead. A young man named Ash takes his girlfriend Linda to a secluded cabin, and plays back a professor's tape recorded recitation of passages from the Book of the Dead. The spell calls up an evil force from the woods which turns Linda into a monstrous Deadite, and threatens to do the same to Ash. When the professor's daughter and her entourage show up at the cabin, the night turns into a non-stop, grotesquely comic battle with chainsaw and shotgun on one side, demon horde and flying eyeball on the other."
for AoD: This is the sequel to "Evil Dead 2." Ash finds himself stranded in the 13th Century with his car, his shotgun, and his chainsaw. Soon he is discovered and thought to be a spy for a rival kingdom and is taken prisoner. After proving his merit in The Pit, he decides to help the kingdom retrieve the Necronomicon (which will also help him return to his own time), which they need to battle the supernatural forces at play in the land. Ash accidentally releases the Army of Darkness when retrieving the book, and a fight to the finish ensues
The 1st one is definitely sppoky while the next one is a little more lighthearted and AoD is just a riot.
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