Fassel Update:

[Tangodnzr]

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7615357.htm

Posted on Thu, Jan. 01, 2004

Jim Fassel interviews with Redskins
BY RALPH VACCHIANO
New York Daily News

NEW YORK - (KRT) - Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder's quick-strike approach to wooing Jim Fassel began with a four-hour interview on Thursday night, followed by dinner in San Francisco. The two will meet again for a few hours on Friday.

Snyder and Redskins vice president Vinny Cerrato flew to San Francisco, where Fassel attended the San Francisco Bowl on Wednesday night, so they could get the jump on the Arizona Cardinals, who will interview Fassel in Tempe on Saturday and Sunday. Fassel is believed to be the Cards' top choice and there's speculation they're preparing to offer him their job.

Fassel's agent, Steve Rosner, said his client still plans to interview with all the teams that want him, including the Chicago Bears, who have set up an interview for Monday.

"By next Wednesday or Thursday, if he does have an offer and an opportunity that fits his criteria, the process will be done," Rosner said.

 

[Tangodnzr]

"By next Wednesday or Thursday, if he does have an offer and an opportunity that fits his criteria, the process will be done," Rosner said.

I would now translate this as:

"If everything goes as expected, he will be the new coach of the Arizona Cardinals Saturday."

Everything just adds up to this now, to me.

I spend a lot of time today doing "homework" on this.

Denny Green was at his best, and put on a good performance. The Cards do indeed seem to have a plan.
They have done what they need to do to cover sufficent bases.
...and Fassel seems to be the man.

That's what all the "dangling indicators" seem to add up to.

Those of you who are afflicted with the gambling virus, this would probably be a chance to recoup some of your losses by betting on his being named Card's coach by monday, if not sooner.

 

[CaliCards]

Good analysis Tangodnzr. However, I believe since Fassel is now the most sought after NFL coach, the Cards chances of landing him are only good because:

If Fassel really want to coach the Cards, no amount of money offered by Mr. Snyder will make Fassel go to Washington.

And not good because:

1. The Bills job is tempting with Drew Bledso at QB. All Fassel would need to do to make the playoff in 2004, is fix the O-line and strengthen the defense.

2. Mr. Snyder will throw lots of $$$$ at Fassel and the Cards might not be able or unwilling to get into a biding war with Mr. Snyder.

 

[red desert]

As much as Fassel may say money will not be the determining factor (and I believe him to be sincere in that) Snyder can throw a ton of it at him. So much so, that the Washington may end up with him. I hope not, because Fassel is my top choice.

 

[Harry]

I think Snyder ends up with Green. However, that doesn't mean the Cards get Fassel. If you had to rank the 7 jobs available according to their appeal, the Cards' slot would be the least desirable. That means it's likely Fassel goes elsewhere.

 

[imaCafan]

I like this line from AzCentral:

Fassel's plan is to "respect the process" and interview with teams he thinks might be good fits for him, Rosner said. However, he added, an offer from a team might speed the process.

Maybe his agent is saying "Give me an offer and I'm your's" to Micheal and Rod?!?!?

 

[Shane]

Tango your nuts. Fassell may be our man but that doesnt mean we are Fassells choice.

I doubt highly we are.

We will end up with some no name coach who is willing to accept around 1 million per season!

 

[pinnacle]

I hope Harry is wrong....but unfortunately he is usually not. If things have changed and the Cardinals are willing to step up and pay $2.5 - $4 million per season to a coach..we have a shot. if they pay $1.5 million or less - we will end up with a lessor name coach. While Tobin and Mcginnis were lower paid coaches - was Buddy Ryan also one of the lowest paid coaches in the league at the time? just curious...

 

[imaCafan]

I think I'll disagree with you on that one. I believe Fassel will be our next HC. Just a feeling.....

 

[Brevity]

Someone pleae help me understand. Why do we want to rid ourselves of one 4-12 coach for another 4-12 coach?

Were the Giants really that low on talent?

I am not being facetious. Just asking a question in order to find out the answer.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Brevity
Someone pleae help me understand. Why do we want to rid ourselves of one 4-12 coach for another 4-12 coach?

Were the Giants really that low on talent?

I am not being facetious. Just asking a question in order to find out the answer.

Im personally not a big fan of Fasell. But I will give him his due he had a whole bunch of injuries this year. But this is the NFL so you cant really use that as an excuse!

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by Brevity
Someone pleae help me understand. Why do we want to rid ourselves of one 4-12 coach for another 4-12 coach?

Were the Giants really that low on talent?

I am not being facetious. Just asking a question in order to find out the answer.

Well, he won his division three times and got a pretty mediocre team to the Super Bowl. That would give him god-like status around here based on how ga-ga people were over McGinnis after a 7-9 season.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Brevity
Someone pleae help me understand. Why do we want to rid ourselves of one 4-12 coach for another 4-12 coach?

Were the Giants really that low on talent?

I am not being facetious. Just asking a question in order to find out the answer.

I would say that, yes, the Giants were that low on talent. Pre-season, they were a hip Super Bowl pick, but I personnally didn't think that they were that good. I thought that they'd probably be a Wild Card.

As the season wore on, they lost their offensive catalyst in Shockey for most of the season, and they're two best defensive players in Will Allen and Will Peterson. Combine that with the fact that they had nobodies playing offensive line (I think they were playing something like three undrafted rookies at the beginning of the season) in front of a statuesque QB in Collins and no WRs for the last quarter of the season, and you have the disaster that was the Giants 2003.

The players were quick to put the blame on Fassel because they have a hard time looking in the mirror when things are going wrong. Fassel always seems to have his teams playing above expectations, except for this season, when the expectations were totally overblown. Because Fassel's teams seem to overachieve, I think he'd be a good fit here.

That being said, he won't be here. I don't think that he'll go to Buffalo or Washington. I personally think that he'd be an interesting fit in Oakland. I hope that the Cards get either Charlie Weis or Mike Heimlinger. They're both coaches that have been controlling thier sides of the ball for some time and can be had at moderate salaries.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by kerouac9
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The players were quick to put the blame on Fassel because they have a hard time looking in the mirror when things are going wrong. Fassel always seems to have his teams playing above expectations, except for this season, when the expectations were totally overblown. Because Fassel's teams seem to overachieve, I think he'd be a good fit here.

That being said, he won't be here. I don't think that he'll go to Buffalo or Washington. I personally think that he'd be an interesting fit in Oakland. I hope that the Cards get either Charlie Weis or Mike Heimlinger. They're both coaches that have been controlling thier sides of the ball for some time and can be had at moderate salaries.

Skip Bayless wrote an article today saying the Raiders should hire Jimmy Johnson! He also said his darkhorse candidate is ex Raider RB Terry Robiskie, he says Davis likes to hire unknowns or up and comers not established guys like Fassel.

I missed the press conference but reports are that Denny Green basically came out and said of course I'm interested in the Cards job if I weren't, I wouldn't have interviewed, even if he doesn't want it that's at least good that someone high profile came out speaking highly of us.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by Brevity
Someone pleae help me understand. Why do we want to rid ourselves of one 4-12 coach for another 4-12 coach?

Were the Giants really that low on talent?

I am not being facetious. Just asking a question in order to find out the answer.

The Giants' O-line blew, Shockey was often hurt, Tiki Barber is a fumbling machine (the guy must have hands the size of a 12-year old girls'), Collins was inconsistent, the defense is getting older and lacked an identity.

Overall, I think the Giant's talent level is far below that of the Cardinals'. Fassel could come in here and make a difference. He's like Mac in that his guys never quit on him, but he's unlike mac in that he can game plane the hell out of an opponant.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Originally posted by Shane H
Tango your nuts. Fassell may be our man but that doesnt mean we are Fassells choice.

I doubt highly we are.

We will end up with some no name coach who is willing to accept around 1 million per season!

I've been "doing my homework". The more I do, the less I am enamored with Green.

I've stated many of the specific reasons why.

I must have missed any of your posts doing the same.

You can call me nuts all you want.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I find it very ironic, to say the least, thay you call ME nuts, based strictly on YOUR opinion, and without any tangible "reason" for doing so.'

I'd be glad to hear what ever justification you have for calling me names like that.


"We will end up with some no name coach who is willing to accept around 1 million per season!"

You could start here, and enlighten some of the rest of us as to what basis you make this statement. Do you have some divine knowledge that this is a fact?

Would you care to wager that the Cards end up spending only "around 1 million" per year for their new coach?

 

[PACardsFan]

Originally posted by CaliCards
Good analysis Tangodnzr. However, I believe since Fassel is now the most sought after NFL coach, the Cards chances of landing him are only good because:

If Fassel really want to coach the Cards, no amount of money offered by Mr. Snyder will make Fassel go to Washington.

And not good because:

1. The Bills job is tempting with Drew Bledso at QB. All Fassel would need to do to make the playoff in 2004, is fix the O-line and strengthen the defense.

2. Mr. Snyder will throw lots of $$$$ at Fassel and the Cards might not be able or unwilling to get into a biding war with Mr. Snyder.

My sources in upstate NY indicate that Bledsoe could be cut next year for $$$ reasons & because he has NO mobility. So don't buy into that being a reason why Fassel would go to Buffalo. Bledsoe is a negative at this point. McCown would be far more intriguing to Fassel than Bledsoe, especially since Fassel was handcuffed offensively with Collins, a CLONE of Bledsoe. That's the last thing that Fassel wants. If Fassel doesn't believe that McCown is the guy, then the 3rd pick will be a QB, a very good one at that!!

 

[General Chaos]

There is nothing wrong will Collins. He can be a very good QB if they don't start 3 rookie O-Linemen. I would be excited to have either collins or bledsoe.

 

[pinnacle]

speculation is that Fassel wants to return to the west coast (where he is from).. I have no idea if that is anywhere close to accurate or not.... I think Chicago, the Raiders and Buffalo would not be his top choice - unless they outbid everyone else... From a money standpoint - Washington will win...so I would guess he would end up in Arizona or Washington...

The raiders are on the west coast...and it is one the most storied organizations in the NFL and over the past 30 years have a very good win loss record.....but I would doubt at this stage of his life Fassel wants to work for Al Davis - who seems to get crazier every year...while in theory the Bidwills reputation is worse - the Rod and Michael show is hopefully starting to change the perception... With Al Davis - if you lose - he will be in the locker room telling you the 100 things you did wrong during the game...at from what I understand about 1/2 the 100 things you did wrong were Al's idea in the 1st place (I gleamed this from being a Raider season ticket holder for a few seasons..and listening to Don Debaca on KDUS (worked for the raiders for 10 years or so) and Bill Lewis of KDUS (who as a rookie was drafted by and played for the raiders.) Rod Frederickson used to also be on KDUS every week..and he pretty much said the same thing.

and Al davis is not exactly Mr. moneybags when it comes to paying coaches...so I doubt that is a west coast option for Fassel...I think he ends up in AZ or Washington.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Originally posted by General Chaos
There is nothing wrong will Collins. He can be a very good QB if they don't start 3 rookie O-Linemen. I would be excited to have either collins or bledsoe.

Yeah bledsoe/blake and smith on the same team. That would take us from the youngest to oldest team in the nfl. lol

 

[john h]

Originally posted by red desert
As much as Fassel may say money will not be the determining factor (and I believe him to be sincere in that) Snyder can throw a ton of it at him. So much so, that the Washington may end up with him. I hope not, because Fassel is my top choice.

Snyder will have to throw a lot of money at any good coach because of his medling and reputation.

Of course we have a problem with the smallest crowds in the NFL and our own owers reputation. This will be all very interesting. I think we need to put an offer on the table promptly if there is someone we really want and advise them we need an answer withing 72 hours. Do not give them an opportunity to shop around and leaving us holding the bag.

 

[john h]

Originally posted by Shane H
Tango your nuts. Fassell may be our man but that doesnt mean we are Fassells choice.

I doubt highly we are.

We will end up with some no name coach who is willing to accept around 1 million per season!

Shane I fear you may be correct. Bidwill has probably put a cap on what he will pay and it probably want be much higher than what we are now paying. What does that get us? I have no idea. More than likely an assistant coach and not a Green or Fassell

 

[Jttsaz]

Originally posted by john h
Shane I fear you may be correct. Bidwill has probably put a cap on what he will pay and it probably want be much higher than what we are now paying. What does that get us? I have no idea. More than likely an assistant coach and not a Green or Fassell

If that is truley the case then why such a high profile search? Why would the Cards come out and name thier top 4 choices full well knowing they would dissappoint everyone by not comming close to thier respective prices?? That does not make any sense. Will they be out bid by $nyder? Probably...but they had better be in the ball park. They will have to pay $$$ for Fassel or Green...or any of these high profile and in-demand coaches. This is make or break time...it really is...

 

[CaptTurbo]

No one wants to work with snyder. You dont have to beat him $ wise just get close.

 

[john h]

Originally posted by Jttsaz
If that is truley the case then why such a high profile search? Why would the Cards come out and name thier top 4 choices full well knowing they would dissappoint everyone by not comming close to thier respective prices?? That does not make any sense. Will they be out bid by $nyder? Probably...but they had better be in the ball park. They will have to pay $$$ for Fassel or Green...or any of these high profile and in-demand coaches. This is make or break time...it really is...

This may well be an indicator of our future. If we lose a coach or coaches because of money we will sort of be on the same track as we have always been. Bidwill has to interview some minorities because of league rules even though he may not be able to afford Green. Snyder is moving fast and hopped in his jet and flying around at near the speed of sound interviewing. You can expect him to announce a hire early next week in my opinion. I do not know how fast we are moving or how long it will take for us to put an offer on the table but it better be quick if we stand a chance of getting one of the good ones. I would imagine some of these coaches come here for an interview just to drive their price up much like free agents and have no intention of comming here. There are some good jobs opening up for coaches. More than I have ever seen.