Favre back to Pack?

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Don't forget about Brohm who was drafted in the 2nd rd. this year. Farve has heart and probably already misses the game. If Farve wants to comeback, they'll let him. He will start too. those 253 straight starts mean something to Packer fans.

I was wrong about Farve, I was thinking he was just worried about his numbers last season.
 

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Favre is a goof. Why announce your retirement and the retract it a few months later? If he had doubts he should have kept quiet. And the fans do not "rule the roost" in Green Bay or anywhere else in professional sports.

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I'm guessing he realizes he doesn't really like his wife as much as he though now that he is spending all day with her.

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So last night ESPN reports that Favre says this is "all rumor."

Then dummy EPSN shill Karl Ravitch says "everything is a rumor until it happens." Thanks idiot.
 

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So last night ESPN reports that Favre says this is "all rumor."

Then dummy EPSN shill Karl Ravitch says "everything is a rumor until it happens." Thanks idiot.


They had Al Harris on last night, who said he spoke with Favre who told Harris that "he's got the itch"... LMAO!
 

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This morning, Jurecki had a long discussion on this. I'm screwing some of this up but I'm sure others can fill in.

1. Favre's brother went public in the last two weeks and said Brett is working out and wants to play this year. I think Mike said he spoke to him by phone. Brett's family is encouraging him to play again.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d806a3052&template=with-video&confirm=true

2. An article in a Milwaukee paper said Favre has 3 years left on his contract at $11 mill this year, $12 mill next year and $14 mill in the last year. If he tells Green Bay he wants to be reactivated, the team has 3 options:

a) Reactivate him and put his $11 mill on the books apply it against the CAP. No problem, Packers have over $20 mill cap rooim available.
b) Trade him.
c) Release him.​

3. Don't remember the sources (one is Chris Mortenson) but the other items were:

a) Favre's agent either has said nothing or has not responded to calls.
b) Green Bay's entire front office is on vacation and none of the people have responded to any requests for comment.
c) Brett spoke to Mike McCarthy 10 days ago and let him know he wants to play.
d) The Packer GM has let Favre know the Packers are not receptive to bringing Brett back.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=768751

4. Brett's only communication on this is a text message saying "It's all rumor".

Favre could kill the "rumor" with a two minute phone call to any reporter.

You cheeseheads are in denial. Favre is done in Green Bay. And he's not walking away from $27 million.
 
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Favre is a goof. Why announce your retirement and the retract it a few months later? If he had doubts he should have kept quiet. And the fans do not "rule the roost" in Green Bay or anywhere else in professional sports.
GBR!

When it comes to Brett Farve in the state of wisconsin......yes they do.He wants to play then he plays. If not....The packers better win 10+ games next year or people will lose there jobs
 

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It should be an interesting month. The Packer GM Ted Thompson hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often while rebuilding the Packers the last 3 years with the youngest roster. He hasn’t spent a lot of money on high priced free agents while fans and Favre were complaining to give Favre more weapons with all the cap room Thompson created by getting rid of all the dead weight. Thompson prefers to build through the draft by trading down and acquiring more picks instead of spending crazy money on free agents like the Redskins and Vikings do every year. And Thompson has stated in the past how he believes no one is put above the team and how his decisions are always for the good of the team. Thompson has strong convictions and hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often. It will be interesting to see if he sticks to them this time too.

I think coach McCarty was stunned when Favre announced his retirement and sincerely wanted Favre back at the time to take another run with a young and improving team, but since he and the team have moved forward since then getting Aaron Rodgers ready, I don’t know if he’d want to pull the rug out from Aaron at this point. Without Favre there this year, Rodgers has really gone out of his way to try to lead and pull the team together by having his teammates over at his place for weekly barbecues.

If Favre never would have announced his retirement I would have liked to have seen him back. But since the team has moved on without him since then, I’m starting to think it’s time to move forward with Rodgers instead of pulling the rug out from him now at this point. For as much as I love Favre, I too believe no one player should be above the team. I have no idea what will happen though.
 

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It should be an interesting month. The Packer GM Ted Thompson hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often while rebuilding the Packers the last 3 years with the youngest roster. He hasn’t spent a lot of money on high priced free agents while fans and Favre were complaining to give Favre more weapons with all the cap room Thompson created by getting rid of all the dead weight. Thompson prefers to build through the draft by trading down and acquiring more picks instead of spending crazy money on free agents like the Redskins and Vikings do every year. And Thompson has stated in the past how he believes no one is put above the team and how his decisions are always for the good of the team. Thompson has strong convictions and hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often. It will be interesting to see if he sticks to them this time too.

I think coach McCarty was stunned when Favre announced his retirement and sincerely wanted Favre back at the time to take another run with a young and improving team, but since he and the team have moved forward since then getting Aaron Rodgers ready, I don’t know if he’d want to pull the rug out from Aaron at this point. Without Favre there this year, Rodgers has really gone out of his way to try to lead and pull the team together by having his teammates over at his place for weekly barbecues.

If Favre never would have announced his retirement I would have liked to have seen him back. But since the team has moved on without him since then, I’m starting to think it’s time to move forward with Rodgers instead of pulling the rug out from him now at this point. For as much as I love Favre, I too believe no one player should be above the team. I have no idea what will happen though.

Thanks for the info and reasoned analysis.
 

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Prisco on Favre

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10885122

I agree but not quite. Brett can force a trade or release, if he really wants to go to Chicago or Minnesota. Those might be the only places that would want him. And I'm not sure they would want him either.

Can Favre master a new offense quickly? I doubt it. He has never had to and was a slow learner the first time. So, with training camp looming and no play book yet to learn, he might not be effective until the 2009 season, barring injury.

Edit: Thinking about it further, if Favre would be willing to play without a huge salary or bonus, on an incentive-laden contract, the Bears or Vikings might take him. Whoever does runs a big risk of a disappointing underperformance in 2009.
 
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You know what? The respect that Favre re-gained in my mind is starting to fade away real fast. In the years he hemmed and hawed and held his team hostage, with nasty comments about how they can simply be on his schedule, I became a Favre hater. The last two seasons (I think it's been 2), he's made quick decisions, and so I stopped calling him Farva. If he comes back, I'll consider him the biggest dillweed around. What a douchebag move if he now decides he wants to come back.
 

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Farve reminds me of Rodger Clemens in a way. Except Farve gets paid for the same team.
 

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Skkorps quote..

You cheeseheads are in denial. Favre is done in Green Bay. And he's not walking away from $27 million.


What does this mean?
 

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It should be an interesting month. The Packer GM Ted Thompson hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often while rebuilding the Packers the last 3 years with the youngest roster. He hasn’t spent a lot of money on high priced free agents while fans and Favre were complaining to give Favre more weapons with all the cap room Thompson created by getting rid of all the dead weight. Thompson prefers to build through the draft by trading down and acquiring more picks instead of spending crazy money on free agents like the Redskins and Vikings do every year. And Thompson has stated in the past how he believes no one is put above the team and how his decisions are always for the good of the team. Thompson has strong convictions and hasn’t bowed to public pressure very often. It will be interesting to see if he sticks to them this time too.

I think coach McCarty was stunned when Favre announced his retirement and sincerely wanted Favre back at the time to take another run with a young and improving team, but since he and the team have moved forward since then getting Aaron Rodgers ready, I don’t know if he’d want to pull the rug out from Aaron at this point. Without Favre there this year, Rodgers has really gone out of his way to try to lead and pull the team together by having his teammates over at his place for weekly barbecues.

If Favre never would have announced his retirement I would have liked to have seen him back. But since the team has moved on without him since then, I’m starting to think it’s time to move forward with Rodgers instead of pulling the rug out from him now at this point. For as much as I love Favre, I too believe no one player should be above the team. I have no idea what will happen though.

I hear what you are saying, but this team went 13-3 last year and was one win away from the super bowl. If Rodgers plays this year and they win 6 or 7 games, The fans will forever hate Rodgers and it will take a miracle for him to have any future with the Packers

If the Packers want to stop this then just let him go. If Rodgers is the guy then who cares. Let Brett go and move on. They wont because they do not want him to go to Minnesota and win the division.
 

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For discussion sake, let us say that Farve forces the Packers hand to release him. People have mentioned the other Nfc north teams, Tampa Bay, & the Dolphins. The one team I think would love him the most is the Buffalo Bills. Farve could take the Bills to that next level. It would be a good fit because the Bills real needs are QB. They have a decent running game & good WR. If Farve comes back, he wouldn't want to go to some team that is in a rebuilding process.
 

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Black, I meant it was my opinion that Green Bay will not take Favre back. And since Brett is healthy, believes he can still play, wants to play and is owed $27 mill on his contract, he will unretire and try to play elsewhere.

That's all.
 

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I don't agree with "the team has moved on" argument. It's been a month or two and a few OTA's and the Packers have somehow forgotten Brett Favre and fully integrated Aaron Rodgers?

If Favre wants to come back, I say let him. So, he thought he was done. I'm sure the disappointment of coming up one game short had nothing to do with that. Now that he's had time to cool off, he wants to come back(allegedly). Can he be blamed? He just put up the best season of his career! The NFC doesn't have a powerhouse team and the Packers have just as good a shot this year as last.

In the short term, it might piss of Aaron Rodgers but who really cares? The Packers don't owe him anything and Favre gives them a much better chance to win in 2008. Just restructure his deal a little so it doesn't look like they're catering to him and everyone will forget about the aborted retirement.
 

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For discussion sake, let us say that Farve forces the Packers hand to release him. People have mentioned the other Nfc north teams, Tampa Bay, & the Dolphins. The one team I think would love him the most is the Buffalo Bills. Farve could take the Bills to that next level. It would be a good fit because the Bills real needs are QB. They have a decent running game & good WR. If Farve comes back, he wouldn't want to go to some team that is in a rebuilding process.

Trent Edwards is the Bills QBOF and showed why last year. The Bills are not in the market for an aging QB, in my opinion, unless he'll agree to a backup's salary and a backup role.
 

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Black, I meant it was my opinion that Green Bay will not take Favre back. And since Brett is healthy, believes he can still play, wants to play and is owed $27 mill on his contract, he will unretire and try to play elsewhere.

That's all.
ok, thanks.:thumbup:
 

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If this is true, Farve ( intentionally mispelled ) is the ultimate drama queen.
 

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I don't agree with "the team has moved on" argument. It's been a month or two and a few OTA's and the Packers have somehow forgotten Brett Favre and fully integrated Aaron Rodgers?

If Favre wants to come back, I say let him. So, he thought he was done. I'm sure the disappointment of coming up one game short had nothing to do with that. Now that he's had time to cool off, he wants to come back(allegedly). Can he be blamed? He just put up the best season of his career! The NFC doesn't have a powerhouse team and the Packers have just as good a shot this year as last.

In the short term, it might piss of Aaron Rodgers but who really cares? The Packers don't owe him anything and Favre gives them a much better chance to win in 2008. Just restructure his deal a little so it doesn't look like they're catering to him and everyone will forget about the aborted retirement.

Favre has proven he can still win in this league. My guess though is Packer GM Ted Thompson is asking if he feels Favre is still good enough to win a Super Bowl? If the answer is no, then he might be thinking it’s time to find out if Rodgers is good enough, and if he isn’t, see if Brian Brohm is in a couple of years. For as well as Favre has played, the 2 tendencies that have emerged over the last few years if you look at his stats is his level of play wasn’t as high as the season wore on, and he has played poorly in cold weather games where he used to dominate. If he wears down as the season goes on or can’t win anymore in cold weather in January, Thompson might be thinking Favre won’t be able to get them to a Super Bowl anymore.

Thompson has also stated in the past regarding other positions, that he doesn’t want an older player taking a spot from a talented young player who needs the reps to develop his talent.

I can’t speak for Thompson and don’t know what his reasons are because he is pretty tight lipped about everything, but there has definitely been a vibe the last couple of years that Thompson isn’t as high on Favre. Only he knows why though.

After the Packers went 13-3, both the GM Thompson and coach McCarthy got contract extensions. So they are probably secure even with a bad year or two. If Rodgers wins 6 games and turns out to be a bust, Thompson just drafted Brian Brohm who isn’t ready now but would have a chance in a year or two. So Thompson has a chance with 2 Qbs he drafted to replace Favre before his contract expires. If either QB wins before his contract is up, Thompson’s tenure goes on. If both QBs bomb, then Thompson will probably be gone in a couple of years.

Maybe the Packers will bring back Favre if he decides to play again. Without Favre, Thompson is taking a big risk because Rodgers hasn’t proved himself or his durability up to now, and because his backups are 2 rookies who aren’t ready to play yet. It seems pretty risky if Rodgers gets hurt or falters to not have a veteran QB on a team that‘s pretty solid everywhere else. So maybe they would bring back Favre to protect themselves. But the last couple of seasons you just got the sense that Thompson would like to move on without Favre, though he would never publicly say it.
 
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