Film study

[Stout]

Not true even a little bit.

It proves that ownership may have that perception. What a great way to make your QB look like an idiot.

So you have blinders on and think he didn't need to improve his study habits? Go on shouting into the wind

 

[Krangodnzr]

So you have blinders on and think he didn't need to improve his study habits? Go on shouting into the wind

Read your post again and you'll see why I'm laughing.

 

[Stout]

Read your post again and you'll see why I'm laughing.

So they put the clause in to...humiliate him for no reason? And he and his agent accepted it without complaint why?

 

[Krangodnzr]

So they put the clause in to...humiliate him for no reason? And he and his agent accepted it without complaint why?

Occam's razor.

A franchise with a century of mostly incompetence.

Why accept it? He has 230 million reasons to accept a pitiful requirement.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

So they put the clause in to...humiliate him for no reason? And he and his agent accepted it without complaint why?

According to Rapport, Michael would have put that clause in any players contract of that dollar figure. It wasn't really about Kyler but about Michael protecting his money.

Right after that report came out they rescinded the clause. Like 3 hours later.

 

[Krangodnzr]

According to Rapport, Michael would have put that clause in any players contract of that dollar figure. It wasn't really about Kyler but about Michael protecting his money.

Right after that report came out they rescinded the clause. Like 3 hours later.

What's really ridiculous is the four hour requirement. It's so pitiful.

 

[TRW]

According to Rapport, Michael would have put that clause in any players contract of that dollar figure. It wasn't really about Kyler but about Michael protecting his money.

Right after that report came out they rescinded the clause. Like 3 hours later.

He's an attorney and he knows there is very little he can do to go about "protecting his money". It just shows how arrogant, petty and vindictive MB truly is IMO. The Bidwills might not be on the "Mt. Rushmore" of the worst sports owners in history but they make honorable (maybe dishonorable) mention.

 

[cardpa]

Not true even a little bit.

It proves that ownership may have that perception. What a great way to make your QB look like an idiot.

Your making the assumption that Murray's game preparation is flawless and his history had nothing to do with the clause. I find it hard to believe that the clause is totally on management and zero, nada is on Murray. I can't wrap my head around the notion that management put that clause in with absolutely no reason at all other than to piss off their QB. Common sense said otherwise.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He's an attorney and he knows there is very little he can do to go about "protecting his money". It just shows how arrogant, petty and vindictive MB truly is IMO. The Bidwills might not be on the "Mt. Rushmore" of the worst sports owners in history but they make honorable (maybe dishonorable) mention.

We live in a right to work state but I have a No Compete clause that I had to sign. It likely would never hold up but I still had to do it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Occam's razor.

A franchise with a century of mostly incompetence.

Why accept it? He has 230 million reasons to accept a pitiful requirement.

Are you just ignoring the genesis of all this? Kylers own comments. We would never have had any of these conversations if not for kylers own comments. The clause likely never exists but for kylers own comments. In court those would likely be considered an admission.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We live in a right to work state but I have a No Compete clause that I had to sign. It likely would never hold up but I still had to do it.

There’s a chasm of difference between your bargaining power and kyler’s. How would a holdout on your part go over with your employer?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Are you just ignoring the genesis of all this? Kylers own comments.

Nope, not ignoring. I'm just stating that I think it was a gross overreaction by an incompetent owner.

We would never have had any of these conversations if not for kylers own comments. The clause likely never exists but for kylers own comments. In court those would likely be considered an admission.

According to information that came out after the extreme overreaction on this board, the clause had nothing to do with Kyler's comments. Bidwill would put this clause in any contract of that size.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nope, not ignoring. I'm just stating that I think it was a gross overreaction by an incompetent owner.

According to information that came out after the extreme overreaction on this board, the clause had nothing to do with Kyler's comments. Bidwill would put this clause in any contract of that size.

Come on, Krang… you are not this naive.

 

[82CardsGrad]

According to information that came out after the extreme overreaction on this board, the clause had nothing to do with Kyler's comments. Bidwill would put this clause in any contract of that size.

Huh? Of what size? Does Bidwill have some predetermined contract value where, anytime that value is hit he puts in an Independent Study clause?
Or, maybe he reacted to the chorus of concerns sent his way, about Kyler's poor preparation habits... It will be debated for years to come as to whether or not he should've put that clause into the contract, regardless of Kyler's poor study habits... But make no mistake, the value of contract sits WAY behind the real reason that clause was there.

As an aside...the fact that Bidwill felt the need to put that clause into the contract certainly speaks volumes about Kyler. But, IMHO, it also speaks equally loud about Kliff and his inability to actually lead. I mean, can you imagine Parcells, Belichick, Arians, Cowher, etc.. putting up with Kyler? Hell no...

 

[Chopper0080]

Except Kingbury always calls the plays. This is new. It shows leadership

I think it gives Kliff great insight to how Kyler likes plays called and sees things.

 

[Chopper0080]

Huh? Of what size? Does Bidwill have some predetermined contract value where, anytime that value is hit he puts in an Independent Study clause?
Or, maybe he reacted to the chorus of concerns sent his way, about Kyler's poor preparation habits... It will be debated for years to come as to whether or not he should've put that clause into the contract, regardless of Kyler's poor study habits... But make no mistake, the value of contract sits WAY behind the real reason that clause was there.

As an aside...the fact that Bidwill felt the need to put that clause into the contract certainly speaks volumes about Kyler. But, IMHO, it also speaks equally loud about Kliff and his inability to actually lead. I mean, can you imagine Parcells, Belichick, Arians, Cowher, etc.. putting up with Kyler? Hell no...

Parcels, Belichick, and Arians would not have drafted Kyler. Cowher would have given him the Cordell Stewart treatment.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Huh? Of what size? Does Bidwill have some predetermined contract value where, anytime that value is hit he puts in an Independent Study clause?
Or, maybe he reacted to the chorus of concerns sent his way, about Kyler's poor preparation habits... It will be debated for years to come as to whether or not he should've put that clause into the contract, regardless of Kyler's poor study habits... But make no mistake, the value of contract sits WAY behind the real reason that clause was there.

As an aside...the fact that Bidwill felt the need to put that clause into the contract certainly speaks volumes about Kyler. But, IMHO, it also speaks equally loud about Kliff and his inability to actually lead. I mean, can you imagine Parcells, Belichick, Arians, Cowher, etc.. putting up with Kyler? Hell no...

Can you imagine them being bad enough to be in a position to draft someone like those listed? Hell no.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Man, I have been away for 10 days on a cruise and I miss and don't miss this offseason at all. What a joke.

Train wrecks are fun to watch.

 

[Shane]

According to information that came out after the extreme overreaction on this board, the clause had nothing to do with Kyler's comments. Bidwill would put this clause in any contract of that size.

According to a reporter?? Guaranteed those words didn’t come from MB. SMH

 

[Cheesebeef]

According to a reporter?? Guaranteed those words didn’t come from MB. SMH

And if they did, they were spin after the fact and public ridicule Kyler was taking. That’s called jumping on the grenade for the player you basically blasted with that contract clause.

 

[kerouac9]

If you haven't listened to it, I recommend you check out last week's Big Red Rage podcast. You can hear Rob Fredrickson do an about-face on this issue IN REAL TIME.

Start of show: The clause is good and it shows accountability.
2 minutes in: BULLETIN: The clause has been removed.
Next 58 minutes: Actually the clause didn't matter and now we've moved on.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Come on, Krang… you are not this naive.

You can speculate all you want.

Either way, the FOUR HOURS part was exceedingly dumb. It was reported that Kyler and his camp were like...."uh ok, 4 hours...I do way more than that anyway...".

If it was such a problem, 4 hours doesn't address the problem.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Huh? Of what size? Does Bidwill have some predetermined contract value where, anytime that value is hit he puts in an Independent Study clause?
Or, maybe he reacted to the chorus of concerns sent his way, about Kyler's poor preparation habits...

What chorus? Rumors and a comment he made about not killing himself with film study.

It will be debated for years to come as to whether or not he should've put that clause into the contract, regardless of Kyler's poor study habits... But make no mistake, the value of contract sits WAY behind the real reason that clause was there.

As an aside...the fact that Bidwill felt the need to put that clause into the contract certainly speaks volumes about Kyler. But, IMHO, it also speaks equally loud about Kliff and his inability to actually lead. I mean, can you imagine Parcells, Belichick, Arians, Cowher, etc.. putting up with Kyler? Hell no...

I could see McVay putting up with Kyler.

 

[DVontel]

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[dreamcastrocks]

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Must have got it studying film...