Fire Dantoni

[Crash]

Should the Suns fire Dantoni???

 

[mathbzh]

I could not resist to the "Yes NOW!!" vote, but "After the season" is probably better.

 

[Captain America]

Im going to hold my judgement until after the season, but I am leaning more towards replacing him.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

There is a sticky thread at the top for discussing Coach D'Antoni.

 

[Crash]

There is a sticky thread at the top for discussing Coach D'Antoni.

Yes there is, but this is a poll.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Sigh...

 

[TucsonDevil]

Chris, don't let them get away with this... We need to hide the dissatisfaction of the coach in just one thread, and hope most don't see it. Please, lump this in with the above thread. It is not right that people hate the coach or his coaching style. I mean, who are they to question him, right? I am on your side Chris, we need to nip this in the bud!

If action is not taken, soon others will claim, "It is a poll" to get away with criticizing the head coach, the all sacred, all powerful, Mike D'Antoni.

 

[FArting]

Im going to hold my judgement until after the season, but I am leaning more towards replacing him.

 

[shazaam6]

 

[Steel Sun]

Oh my gosh Shazaam,who is that in your avatar!

 

[mojorizen7]

Sigh...

I've only been posting here for a relatively short time Chris so maybe i missed something.
Do you golf with D'Antoni or something?
Are you guys buds?
It seems that out of all of the re-treaded threads that materialize here(and there are alot other than just DA related) that you are genuinely trying to discourage anything anti-D'Antoni.
I'm not attempting to stir up anything here i promise....but it really does sound personal at times.

 

[mojorizen7]

I voted to fire D'Antoni after this season.

 

[Cheesewater]

I voted to fire D'Antoni after this season.

How did you feel about Mike Martz?

 

[Darth Llama]

Firing him now would accomplish nothing at all. It would do nothing but send this team into a deep tail spin and insure that they don't make the playoffs, that would be a bad move.

At the end of the season, the Suns need to take a look at where they want to go with the franchise. If they want to try and rebuild the "run and gun" style of fast break basketball, then they might as well keep D'Antoni. I don't know who would do it better, and that style of basketball doesn't really focus on defense which is D'Antoni's most glaring weakness. Other then Don Nelson or maybe Rick Adleman, who else would be better for that?

If the Suns decide they want to go with a more championship style team that focuses on stopping people and playing solid defense, they would be best served letting D'Antoni go and bringing in a guy like Rick Carlisle who knows how to build that type of team.

It comes down to what the Suns want as their identity. I still maintain that the run and gun style of basketball will never win championships though. It's fun to watch, but the Suns just remind me too much of the Sacramento Kings from 2000-2004. Fun to watch, but nothing to show for it. It's very possible that it's time for change in Phoenix.

 

[Chaplin]

Chris, don't let them get away with this... We need to hide the dissatisfaction of the coach in just one thread, and hope most don't see it. Please, lump this in with the above thread. It is not right that people hate the coach or his coaching style. I mean, who are they to question him, right? I am on your side Chris, we need to nip this in the bud!

If action is not taken, soon others will claim, "It is a poll" to get away with criticizing the head coach, the all sacred, all powerful, Mike D'Antoni.

Good one--insult the moderator. Way to go. Your sarcasm isn't really working all that well.

Chris is right, you let everyone and their brother create threads about the same thing and the board just becomes full of threadcraps. Remember George O'Brien? Knowledgeable guy about the Suns, but he kept starting new threads that repeated the same thing. Why do that? That makes no sense and certainly doesn't help the user experience.

 

[TheHopToad]

Replacing the coach in March is a kiss of death. We might as well just sit Nash, Amare, and Shaq and try to go for the lottery....but alas, we don't even own our own first round pick.

Now in my business, when people complain to me and tell me that something doesn't work or there is a problem, I ask them what their proposed solution is.

Who exactly do we propose to coach this team? If you look at the available coaches out there, there aren't a lot of quality choices. Gregg Popavich, Jerry Sloan, Don Nelson, Pat Riley, and Phil Jackson are already taken, Chuck Daly and Lenny Wilkins are old and retired, Larry Brown and Isiah Thomas are headcases, and Red Auerbach is dead.

I can't think of an available coach out there I would feel comfortable coaching the Suns, except maybe Jeff Van Gundy, and I don't think he wants to go back yet. He's having a fun time broadcasting games and doesn't have any of the stress that caused him to pack it in and quit the Rockets.

I began my allegiance with this team back in the late 70s and endured a lot of bad John MacLeod years, followed by a horrible John Wetzel season. I've gotten my hopes up and heart crushed by Cotton and Paul Westphal and I've suffered through Skiles, Ainge, and Frank Johnson. D'Antoni came in and cleaned up the latter's mess and turned this team around the very next year. Yes, Steve Nash had something to do with that, but even Westphal's great team of Barkley & company couldn't even get back to the Conference Finals after the great season in '93, and IMO they had the best players of any Suns team. Mike D has achieved something no other coach has done in the history of the franchise by winning 60+ games twice and had another amazing 54 win season and second consecutive WCF appearance--without Amare. How many of us expected that?

I'm not totally against replacing the coach, but be careful what you wish for. You better be damn sure that the next one is definitively better, and I just don't see one out there worth that gamble.

 

[MiamiHeat]

you might as well fire him

it doesn't look like he approved the trade for shaq anyway. his philosophy was trampled on with the trade

 

[passenger]

Chuck Daly and Lenny Wilkins are old and retired, Larry Brown and Isiah Thomas are headcases, and Red Auerbach is dead.

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[OldDirtMcGirt]

Replacing the coach in March is a kiss of death. We might as well just sit Nash, Amare, and Shaq and try to go for the lottery....but alas, we don't even own our own first round pick.

Now in my business, when people complain to me and tell me that something doesn't work or there is a problem, I ask them what their proposed solution is.

Who exactly do we propose to coach this team? If you look at the available coaches out there, there aren't a lot of quality choices. Gregg Popavich, Jerry Sloan, Don Nelson, Pat Riley, and Phil Jackson are already taken, Chuck Daly and Lenny Wilkins are old and retired, Larry Brown and Isiah Thomas are headcases, and Red Auerbach is dead.

I can't think of an available coach out there I would feel comfortable coaching the Suns, except maybe Jeff Van Gundy, and I don't think he wants to go back yet. He's having a fun time broadcasting games and doesn't have any of the stress that caused him to pack it in and quit the Rockets.

I began my allegiance with this team back in the late 70s and endured a lot of bad John MacLeod years, followed by a horrible John Wetzel season. I've gotten my hopes up and heart crushed by Cotton and Paul Westphal and I've suffered through Skiles, Ainge, and Frank Johnson. D'Antoni came in and cleaned up the latter's mess and turned this team around the very next year. Yes, Steve Nash had something to do with that, but even Westphal's great team of Barkley & company couldn't even get back to the Conference Finals after the great season in '93, and IMO they had the best players of any Suns team. Mike D has achieved something no other coach has done in the history of the franchise by winning 60+ games twice and had another amazing 54 win season and second consecutive WCF appearance--without Amare. How many of us expected that?

I'm not totally against replacing the coach, but be careful what you wish for. You better be damn sure that the next one is definitively better, and I just don't see one out there worth that gamble.

I think that Jeff Van Gundy, Rick Carlisle, and Larry Brown are all acceptable choices. Also, I wouldn't even mind hiring a guy like Dwayne Casey, who got an unfair shake in Minnesota.

 

[joshstmarie]

you might as well fire him

it doesn't look like he approved the trade for shaq anyway. his philosophy was trampled on with the trade

his philosophy had 3 years to work, they thought they could just keep plugging people in and the system would work and their luck finally ran out.

stache needs to show us he can adjust..if not lets get someone who can in here next year and win one.

i really think we have enought talent but maybe its the coach and not the palyers that needs to be the final piece.

 

[az1965]

his philosophy had 3 years to work, they thought they could just keep plugging people in and the system would work and their luck finally ran out.

stache needs to show us he can adjust..if not lets get someone who can in here next year and win one.

i really think we have enought talent but maybe its the coach and not the palyers that needs to be the final piece.

Grow up... how old are you? 16?

 

[MiamiHeat]

because he called D'Antoni 'stache' ?

over react much?

 

[Sunshooter]

With D'Antoni, no more hope!

 

[Crash]

Right now it's 44-16 in favor of the Suns giving D'Antoni the big boot in some way or another. I has in favor of this move even before the Shaq trade.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I've only been posting here for a relatively short time Chris so maybe i missed something.
Do you golf with D'Antoni or something?
Are you guys buds?
It seems that out of all of the re-treaded threads that materialize here(and there are alot other than just DA related) that you are genuinely trying to discourage anything anti-D'Antoni.
I'm not attempting to stir up anything here i promise....but it really does sound personal at times.

No. The overriding negativity and rehashing of the same old subjects over and over has virtually ruined this board. We get numerous complaints about it.

This board is the black sheep of asfn. The Admins are aware of it and things may have to change in the near future. I am only trying to stem the tide by limiting the dead horse beatdown.

We had almost turned the corner on this prior to the Shaq trade but since then it has only gotten worse.