No excuses!
Just do it!
Just do it!
Fire Davis!
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
I concur.
Fire him today, start talking to people tomorrow. First move and it should be done quickly.
Don't even let him on the plane.
NMCard
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Whiz is to loyal to do something like that.
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I doubt that. I can see alot of guys being let go this week. The DL coach hasn't done anything either. We never get any pressure unless we blitz and then it's only a maybe that any pressure is applied.
Zeno
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Grimm can follow him out the door too.
Chopper0080
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Not many on the staff should stay to be honest.
Grimm should go.
Mike Millar might have to as well.
Running backs coach (no development from Wells, and Hightower is still fumbling)
D-line coach
Bill Davis
Donnie Henderson due to health
Our linebacker coach as well.
Grimm should go.
Mike Millar might have to as well.
Running backs coach (no development from Wells, and Hightower is still fumbling)
D-line coach
Bill Davis
Donnie Henderson due to health
Our linebacker coach as well.
New Mexico
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Davis should absolutely be fired and the Cards should bring in somebody from the outside, but that won't happen.
DieHardCardFan
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I say him and Grimm should have thier bags packed when the plane lands. These guys both suck!
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Gotta happen...I think it will.
az1965
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I don't think Whiz is going to fire Grimm. Just a hunch.
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He's hoping he will take a job elsewhere so he won't have to do it.
But if we can fire a D coach after going to the Super Bowl, then there should be no reason at all why Davis won't be fired after this season.
It's possible Whiz won't fire Grimm as a professional courtesy because he would have a tougher time even getting an interview for a head coach position.
Doing this and then firing him later would, of course, limit the pool of available coaches to replace him
jmho
I honestly went to bed last night thinking this would happen before I woke up, now I am worried. Whiz is a joke if they don't can Davis.
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1. Straighten out the QB mess.
2. Get healthy at LT
3. Acquire 2 big ol' TE's who can block and are dependible targets for our QB.
4. Do whatever it takes on the O-line to effectively run the ball whenever we want to and wherever we want to. (Do whatever it takes in the way of changes, but get it done so that we no longer "hope" it will get done but know we can run the ball).
5. Be more demanding of our defensive players concentration and technique-wise.
6. Attack opposing offenses & their weak points more aggressively.
Don't change assistant coaches just to change coaches, but replace a couple of our guys with strong characters from the outside if it's felt they can singlehandedly turn things around.
I am not a Billy Davis fan. Gotta love Russ Grimm's track record and street creds but - based on O-line production (or lack thereof) - what's he done for us lately? I also have to question the effectiveness of a Running Attack Coach and a Passing Attack Coach instead of a traditional OC. Maybe the concept is "cutting edge" but you have to ask yourself - under this structure, "how's the offense working out for ya?"
My point - "Aim before you fire": First attack the problems and let assistant coaching decisions take the form of possible collateral damage that might occur when you attack those problems - and not the other way around.
2. Get healthy at LT
3. Acquire 2 big ol' TE's who can block and are dependible targets for our QB.
4. Do whatever it takes on the O-line to effectively run the ball whenever we want to and wherever we want to. (Do whatever it takes in the way of changes, but get it done so that we no longer "hope" it will get done but know we can run the ball).
5. Be more demanding of our defensive players concentration and technique-wise.
6. Attack opposing offenses & their weak points more aggressively.
Don't change assistant coaches just to change coaches, but replace a couple of our guys with strong characters from the outside if it's felt they can singlehandedly turn things around.
I am not a Billy Davis fan. Gotta love Russ Grimm's track record and street creds but - based on O-line production (or lack thereof) - what's he done for us lately? I also have to question the effectiveness of a Running Attack Coach and a Passing Attack Coach instead of a traditional OC. Maybe the concept is "cutting edge" but you have to ask yourself - under this structure, "how's the offense working out for ya?"
My point - "Aim before you fire": First attack the problems and let assistant coaching decisions take the form of possible collateral damage that might occur when you attack those problems - and not the other way around.
Maybe Grimm could just resign to spend more time with his family.
az1965
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This is pretty revealing... Whiz will not fire Grimm. Let's just hope Carolina bites on him as a HC. Not sure what they see in him but let's hope!
I guess I have missed that "success"... he did make a difference the first year. I believe the line play was improved from Denny Green days but since then, it has just been downhill both performance and personal selection/position.
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Probably going to be waiting for at least another day or two. Two days for player exit interviews and another 1 or 2 days for staff exit interviews.
I think both of your statements are right on.
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Thanks, I'm not normally known as a prophet, but I hope I'm right this time.
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I agree with a LOT of this.
Here's my take on the Davis. I'm not sure he gets canned because Whiz has stated several times that the Scheme isn't the issue it's the players lack of following the scheme at times (far too often). Very Good Red Zone defense also supports the thinking that Davis isn't clueless.
If Bickley is correct and the Cards want an impact D player in rd1 this also supports the thinking that it's the players and not the DC.
As many have pointed out Davis's stint as the DC in San Fran has enough ???'s since he wasn't really calling the shots but Nolan was. Since Nolan is a very good DC I don't know that the above helps Davis's case.
Bottom line for me is that as the DC it is Davis's job to not only scheme well but ensure the players are following the Scheme. If he can't do that I don't care how wonderful or inventive his Schemes are they won't work because he can't get the players to make them work.
Maybe there is more to it then this so I won't go ballistic if Davis is retained or not. But for me the writing is on the wall.
