Fire Petzing now

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Humm... you go back in the game if you like; I'll go back one play.

The timing makes literally no difference. The one I referenced was much closer in terms of fact pattern. That does make a difference.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Check down

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You keep showing a play where kyler failed to throw a good ball. Now THAT’s funny.

 

[602 Native]

Firing Peturd is a majority of fans

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[slanidrac16]

And you said that K1 is check down king which is it?

Check down king. One or two deep passes doesn’t change that.

 

[602 Native]

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[PJ1]

You keep showing a play where kyler failed to throw a good ball. Now THAT’s funny.

Really? Should have been caught in my opinion.

 

[ajcardfan]

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I think there is no way Petzing gets axed. Unless his personality is just rubbing Gannon the wrong way. Which there is nothing at all to indicate that. In fact, the reason Petzing came out of nowhere to get this OC job is Gannon knew him and liked him already.

Here is what the team will look at:

2023 offense: 19th overall yards. 4th in rushing and 26 passing. 23rd in scoring 19.4 a game.

2024 offense: 11th overall yards. 4th in rushing 18th in passing. 15th in scoring 22.1 points a game.

He isn't getting fired IMO. Eat that contract when he can show improvement basically across the board? Doesn't sound like something Bidwill does to me.

 

[602 Native]

I think there is no way Petzing gets axed. Unless his personality is just rubbing Gannon the wrong way. Which there is nothing at all to indicate that. In fact, the reason Petzing came out of nowhere to get this OC job is Gannon knew him and liked him already.

Here is what the team will look at:

2023 offense: 19th overall yards. 4th in rushing and 26 passing. 23rd in scoring 19.4 a game.

2024 offense: 11th overall yards. 4th in rushing 18th in passing. 15th in scoring 22.1 points a game.

He isn't getting fired IMO. Eat that contract when he can show improvement basically across the board? Doesn't sound like something Bidwill does to me.

Keeping Peturd puts JG in danger if he comes out and starts slow next season especially if we lose next week and don’t score.

There will be questions in the exit if we have another half where we don’t score which has been a them since the bye.

MO: JG what is going to change next season to improve our passing attack which limited us this season?

That single question will start the snowball

 

[ajcardfan]

Keeping Peturd puts JG in danger if he comes out and starts slow next season especially if we lose next week and don’t score.

There will be questions in the exit if we have another half where we don’t score which has been a them since the bye.

MO: JG what is going to change next season to improve our passing attack which limited us this season?

That single question will start the snowball

Yeah, maybe if Monti had full control of football decisions including contracts. I do not believe he does. Bidwill will be sitting in the room as well.

 

[602 Native]

Yeah, maybe if Monti had full control of football decisions including contracts. I do not believe he does. Bidwill will be sitting in the room as well.

“We found our Alpha Bird” - MO drafting MHJ

Well that bird looks pretty meh compared to the other pass catchers drafted. Will MO put the blame on K1 who had a 1k yard TE that MO didn’t draft or the scheme?

I’m betting on the scheme but we will see.

Hopefully next game we get a win and end this season on a high note and none of this will take place.

 

[Chopper0080]

“We found our Alpha Bird” - MO drafting MHJ

Well that bird looks pretty meh compared to the other pass catchers drafted. Will MO put the blame on K1 who had a 1k yard TE that MO didn’t draft or the scheme?

I’m betting on the scheme but we will see.

Hopefully next game we get a win and end this season on a high note and none of this will take place.

I expect more of a convo on positional coaching vs an OC change.

 

[slanidrac16]

Keeping Peturd puts JG in danger if he comes out and starts slow next season especially if we lose next week and don’t score.

There will be questions in the exit if we have another half where we don’t score which has been a them since the bye.

MO: JG what is going to change next season to improve our passing attack which limited us this season?

That single question will start the snowball

And what if Kyler comes out and crsps the bed again with 3 picks and an overall terrible game. Does he get the ax?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Really? Should have been caught in my opinion.

I agree. It should have.

Did kyler maximize his ability to make an easy catch or make him slow his route for an unnecessary contested catch?

Both can be (and are) true.

 

[kerouac9]

Firing Peturd is a majority of fans

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Oh man. If you lose KylerSzn and Andy Kwong you’ve lost the fan base. Very hard day for Drew Petzing and his family.

I bet Michael Bidwill is one of Andy Kwongs 4500 followers.

 

[602 Native]

And what if Kyler comes out and crsps the bed again with 3 picks and an overall terrible game. Does he get the ax?

He should absolutely be on the chopping block if he craps the bed again like that.

I’m all for finding replacements that can help us win, K1 is no exception.

 

[PJ1]

I agree. It should have.

Did kyler maximize his ability to make an easy catch or make him slow his route for an unnecessary contested catch?

Both can be (and are) true.

It’s the NFL. The ball went through his hands. Defender never touched it or came close to touching the ball. End of story.

 

[slanidrac16]

He should absolutely be on the chopping block if he craps the bed again like that.

I’m all for finding replacements that can help us win, K1 is no exception.

Honestly, who is out there to replace Kyler anyway? Like it or not we have to continue to build this team on the foundation that’s in place.
Kirk Cousins? Kenny Pickett? Justin Fields? There are times Cousins can put the team on his back but 1/2 the time he’s poo.
It’s going to be a entertaining off season.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It’s the NFL. The ball went through his hands. Defender never touched it or came close to touching the ball. End of story.

“Never came close?” Okay. Tough to discuss anything with someone unable to talk reasonably about a play. Have a good night.

 

[QuebecCard]

The timing makes literally no difference. The one I referenced was much closer in terms of fact pattern. That does make a difference.

They were both runs; mine was closer, as in ONE play!

 

[PJ1]

“Never came close?” Okay. Tough to discuss anything with someone unable to talk reasonably about a play. Have a good night.

Actually it is tough to discuss with someone trying to make a point with the wrong play. That ball was over the defenders and into Wilson’s hands and he missed it. Stepped out of bounds so it didn’t matter at that point but find another throw to bash Kyler which you absolutely did while making a point with another poster.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[602 Native]

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JV is beside himself with Peturd

 

[HairZach]

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Marvin would have easily had 1000 yards with his opportunities if he wasn't a very, painfully, average player.

 

[Card'em]

I would be shocked if Petzing doesn't return as OC. While Cards fans are disappointed in the poor play after the bye, I think the Cards coaches and front office will look at 2024 as year 2 of the rebuild, which started in 2023 with one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Where fans see the late season collapse and not making the playoffs as failure, I think Gannon and Ossenfort will take the long view and see the progress that the team made in 2024.

My guess is they will run it back in 2025 with the coaching staff in tact, and hope for significant improvement in the offense with better O-line play, a speed WR, and an improved Kyler/MHJ connection.

 

[kerouac9]

I would be shocked if Petzing doesn't return as OC. While Cards fans are disappointed in the poor play after the bye, I think the Cards coaches and front office will look at 2024 as year 2 of the rebuild, which started in 2023 with one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Where fans see the late season collapse and not making the playoffs as failure, I think Gannon and Ossenfort will take the long view and see the progress that the team made in 2024.

My guess is they will run it back in 2025 with the coaching staff in tact, and hope for significant improvement in the offense with better O-line play, a speed WR, and an improved Kyler/MHJ connection.

I agree with you in general, but I'd like to remind you in the specific that our roster was below average but fine in 2023. Monti fashioned the 2023 Cardinals into one of the worst rosters in the NFL.