Fisher back to LA!

[slinslin]

Yes, whatever. Fisher was absolutely terrible. That guy can't play anymore. The notion that Derek Fisher is supposed to tutor a promising young player is just pretty funny in my opinion.
Maybe we can get Greg Buckner on our team to tutor Alando Tucker.

 

[slinslin]

You stopped watching when Boris Diaw was playing?

Diaw at his worst is still twice as good as Fisher.

I can't remember any other player taking as many dumb 3s and missing as badly as Derek Fisher. I bet he leads the league in airballs from behind the arc, if not total at least on a per minute basis.

Lets just be happy the Lakers signed Derek Fisher and not Mo Williams or someone else.

 

[Russ Smith]

rofl

Fisher was the WORST player I saw on any team during the playoffs.

I am glad the Lakers wasted their money on him instead of someone who can actually play.

He hit the key shots in their series win over the warriors. Not a great player but he's the type of veteran you don't mind tutoring a young player like Crittenton who is still learning the game. That's been Fisher's rep for years he's very good with the younger players, Monta Ellis can't stop praising him for example. He makes too much money, keeps lucking into big contracts.

I don't think they will trade Farmar yet, don't think he has much trade value and I think they want to wait and see how he develops too. Right now he's just as good as Crittenton, smaller, better playmaker, and he's only a month older than Javaris so they're basically the same age. They can afford to carry both and see who develops.

 

[Russ Smith]

Diaw at his worst is still twice as good as Fisher.

I can't remember any other player taking as many dumb 3s and missing as badly as Derek Fisher. I bet he leads the league in airballs from behind the arc, if not total at least on a per minute basis.

Lets just be happy the Lakers signed Derek Fisher and not Mo Williams or someone else.

He was terrible against SA, but he was the reason they beat the Warriors, if he hadn't returned they lose that series.

Now that is mainly because SA plays much better defense so he couldn't get all the open looks the Warriors gave him, but every team he plays for says the same thing about his work with the younger players.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

rofl

Fisher was the WORST player I saw on any team during the playoffs.

I am glad the Lakers wasted their money on him instead of someone who can actually play.

:roll:

Tell me about it. We had worst players on our own team. What are you thinking? Fisher was critical in the series against GS.

 

[slinslin]

I doubt there is room for any PG to actually devellop playing with Kobe Bryant since he dominates most plays anyway.

Farmar has not much value imo, he was a late first round pick and hasn't shown anything to prove that he should have been more than that. He isn't as good as someone like Steve Blake right now and hasn't shown anything that he will be better than Blake down the road.

 

[Russ Smith]

I doubt there is room for any PG to actually devellop playing with Kobe Bryant since he dominates most plays anyway.

Farmar has not much value imo, he was a late first round pick and hasn't shown anything to prove that he should have been more than that. He isn't as good as someone like Steve Blake right now and hasn't shown anything that he will be better than Blake down the road.

I agree no trade value now. He's only 21(will be in Dec) so he has upside but he has the same problems he had at UCLA, very inconsistent outside shot, turns it over too much, trouble defending quick players. They took Crittenton on potential, great athlete, very raw PG, I assume they think Fisher can help him the way Monta Ellis says he helped him as a rookie.

But if they really want to package for a trade I would assume Farmar would be in it because nobody is going to want Parker and they aren't going to trade Crittenton so soon I assume.

 

[slinslin]

I like Crittenton but I doubt he will work out for LA. He will have the same problems that Parker has.
Basically your PG next to Bryant does not do much of anything except defending and spot-up shooting. I think both of these areas are rather his weak spots.

 

[Russ Smith]

I like Crittenton but I doubt he will work out for LA. He will have the same problems that Parker has.
Basically your PG next to Bryant does not do much of anything except defending and spot-up shooting. I think both of these areas are rather his weak spots.

Yep they need more of a Steve Kerr type shooter, but who can defend.

Crittenton is a great athlete not a great shooter. I was surprised they passed on Gabe Pruitt for that reason, better shooter.

 

[hcsilla]

Crittenton surely will need time to learn how to run an NBA team but he is probably already a more fluid and better one-on-one player than Parker ever will be.

How that will be a fit to Kobe and the triangle, that's another question.

 

[Chaplin]

Crittenton surely will need time to learn how to run an NBA team but he is probably already a more fluid and better one-on-one player than Parker ever will be.

How that will be a fit to Kobe and the triangle, that's another question.

The word here in L.A. is that Crittendon played in a version of the triangle in high school and his learning curve is small.

 

[D-Dogg]

The word here in L.A. is that Crittendon played in a version of the triangle in high school and his learning curve is small.

Yeah, a rudimentary version, but he is said to understand the concepts.

He looked good in the SPL game I watched yesterday. A project, but one with tremendous upside.

 

[mjb21aztd]

good for fisher I hope he does well their expect for when they play us in the playoffs of course and best of wishes to his daughter

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah, a rudimentary version, but he is said to understand the concepts.

He looked good in the SPL game I watched yesterday. A project, but one with tremendous upside.

I guess I'll wait and see but the triangle is hard for NBA vets to pick up, a kid with one year of HS who wasn't exactly savvy in college isn't going to pick it up rapidly IMHO.

Remember last year Rambis said that they went into summer league planning to send Farmar to the D League but he picked up the triangle quicker than expected so he made the team. He wound up playing in the D league too just to get more minutes.

Crittenton has a ton of talent but he's raw, in the Maui classic last year he had 6 TO's in a win over Memphis and 4 in the loss to UCLA. He got completely outplayed by Collison. He had a 1.48 A/To ratio last year, and in his only NCAA tourney game he really struggled in their loss to UNLV.

he has great talent I think he's a great pick but he won't be ready to run that offense as a rookie so Fisher will help him in that regard.

It's funny a lot of UCLA fans are also Laker fans(not me) and they're all torn on the UCLA boards between cheering for Farmar, and wanting Crittenton to pan out for the Lakers.

 

[F-Dog]

Fisher's defense at PG is worse that Smush Parker's. So, the Lakers get more one-dimensional here, spend more of their money...the signing doesn't make sense without a big trade, but their front office won't be bending other GMs over any time soon.

At least Kobe finally grew up enough that he doesn't cry when they lose any more.



My guess is that Utah was happy to get out of paying the rest of Fisher's contract. Notice that the Lakers wound up paying him less money than Utah owed him, even though they're stupid and desperate.