Fitz on Doucet: "He reminds me of Q..."
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If I was Early I would quell this talk. Talk about setting the bar high for a player. Anquan was Anquan. He was a freak, and you are not going to find another.
That is not to bash Early, but Early has his own game. I am excited for Doucet, and more excited to see how Doucet, Breaston, and Fitzgerald work as a unit.
That is not to bash Early, but Early has his own game. I am excited for Doucet, and more excited to see how Doucet, Breaston, and Fitzgerald work as a unit.
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Throw in Roberts & the Cards still have a top 3 WR unit w/o Quan.
Within the next 3 years, Roberts will make people forget #81 because I think he will be that good.
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Throw in Roberts & the Cards still have a top 3 WR unit w/o Quan.
Nobody is going to forget Q. I'm surprised by how often I hear this...
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Realistically, the skill-set is there.
The only question I have is: "Can Early be as physically tough as Q was?"
No knock on Doucet - Boldin was a beast and the bar he set in terms of toughness & determination was extremely high.
The only question I have is: "Can Early be as physically tough as Q was?"
No knock on Doucet - Boldin was a beast and the bar he set in terms of toughness & determination was extremely high.
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Anyone who went through the awful, awful seasons in the early the 2000's well never forget the Big Bang that start to turn this organization around.
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I like our new pecking order at WR. Considering how good our run game will be( I Think) it should open up many options for Matt. However, I watched Q, when he was healthy he was a beast. No one can replace his strenght after the catch. I think Early can fill nicely into the number 3. Breaston is a beast in his own way and there is always Larry. But, I repeat no one will fill the shows that Q ran around in!
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To go through what he did without pain medication??????
I can't imagine ANY player ever being tougher than Q.
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Maybe on a few Sundays we'll see some Q like plays from Doucet but there is a reason Q was one of a kind (workout warrior, he is THE GAM [Grown A$$ Man], lockerroom leader, and one of the best RAC players to ever play the game). We'll never have another player "like Q" but it's nice to see that Early Doucet has the skills to make good things happen on Sundays.
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Q was a special and we dont need to or should ever forget what he has done for this franchise.
I do agree with Bucky though as i too think Roberts can be a special WR in his own right which is probably what Bucky was referring to. Doucet is a very talented and physically gifted receiver and will just have to show that he can perform like he did toward the end of last year and the playoffs game in game out.
This is what i would think people mean about forgetting Boldin i.e. not missing him too much as the other wide receivers step up and fill the gap voided by him. Dont get me wrong Anquan was an immense performer and its never easy to replace a perennial pro bowler in any spot, but i like the depth and quality we have at WR enough to believe we can still be a similarly potent offense as last year.
I do agree with Bucky though as i too think Roberts can be a special WR in his own right which is probably what Bucky was referring to. Doucet is a very talented and physically gifted receiver and will just have to show that he can perform like he did toward the end of last year and the playoffs game in game out.
This is what i would think people mean about forgetting Boldin i.e. not missing him too much as the other wide receivers step up and fill the gap voided by him. Dont get me wrong Anquan was an immense performer and its never easy to replace a perennial pro bowler in any spot, but i like the depth and quality we have at WR enough to believe we can still be a similarly potent offense as last year.
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kerouac9
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Are you talking about Larry Fitzgerald? Because the most hopeless season in Arizona Cardinals history featured #81 scampering around when the score was 35-7.
I truly believe that Anquan Boldin had very, very little to do with this organization turning around. He wasn't even around during the offseasons where the team really turned the corner.
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What made the Cardinals competitive, recognizable and relevant was the emergence of arguably the best WR duo in the league and that all started with Anquan coming into the mix. For the longest time, Q was a leader on this team, and Whisenhunt went on record to say as such. When Q started his contract disputes with the organization, it sent shockwaves throughout the locker room because of the impact he has had on this team. Largely, he is responsible for the growth of Fitzgerald because Fitz looked up to him and was his biggest advocate along with Dockett when the contract issues surfaced.
By your logic, anyone on this team prior to 2007, which would include Fitz, is irrelevant to our current success. It was the gradual acquisition of several players that made the Cardinals what they are today. To say Q, who was a perennial pro bowler for many years, had no impact on this franchise is way (and I mean WAY) off base IMO.
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what made the Cardinals competitive, recognizable and relevant was WIZ and winning games. They weren't ANY of those things before he got there.
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This goes without saying. The premise of the argument was whether or not Q was any part of the mix. That also goes without saying
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eh... you could say that about pretty much the whole team though. it was basically the same team for years that would put up pretty stats which had no impact on winning games.
TJ
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Yes, but some of the leftovers that come with that are Reggie Wells and Gerald hayes.
The only two guys that came over from the McGinnis era that had any impact on the Super Bowl team were Q and AW.
My issue is with people mitigating what Q brought to this team. Very easy to do now that he is a Raven.
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That's not what I said:
The "shockwaves" that his holdouts sent through the lockerroom resulted in two NFC West titles and a Super Bowl appearance. Where's the evidence of the leadership when it counted? Where was Q during the most important road game maybe in Cardinals history (against Carolina two seasons ago)?
For all the "competitiveness and fire" that Anquan Boldin allegedly brought to this team before coach Whis got here, they really weren't that competitive, were they?
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eh, I did back when he was on the team as well. This team won with or without him once Wiz got here, as any good team should.
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Anyone that wants to hear the debate points about the differences in the value of Boldin to this team that K9 and myself have can go to the top right hand corner and search for Boldin and our screen names. Have fun reading the equivalent of war and peice. And yes, to answer a 3 year old question, Steve Smith, in his prime, was a spectacular reciever, better than I gave him credit for at that time.
Cause I am not hashing this out again.
In my extremely humble opinion, Boldin had a lot to do with turning this franchise around. It has been a constant message that has come from the Cardinals coaches, front office and players. Not to mention he was a fan favorite of many, and was the only thing going for the Cardinals for a while.
Again, it is an opinionated statement and please take it with a grain of salt. He is not even on the team anymore so I it is a moot point ot discuss.
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TJ
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As did his leadership to the team. He was the conduit between the old regime and the new. His ability to explain how the team came from the depths of hell (aka Sun Devil Stadium) to what it became once Whis jumped on board
In 2008, Q was the unquestioned leader of the WR corp. Fitz's only knack that year is that he didnt take the reigns as any sort of leader until pushed into the role the following season. And Breaston was too young.
Fitz was a quiet, reserved type of guy while Q was the type who instilled fire and desire into his fellow man. Who do you think the team is going to latch on to for a psychological boost. And while his contributions against Carolina were not on the field, without him, that corp would have been lost.
I hate to lump you in to one of those "dont let the door hit you on the way out" type of guys, but you are completely mitigating what the guy brought to the team.
If you were to sit down and ask Whis what Q meant to the franchise, he would say the same things Im telling you. He has alluded to this in every interview he's done that mentioned Q, even the ones after the trade.
True. It is hard to believe that the Cards had Warner, Boldin, Fitzgerald, Berry, Dansby, Dockett, Hayes, RWells, Okeafor, Rolle and Wilson, half the starters from the SB team in '08, and went 5-11 two years in a row.
Pretty stats? How about finishing first in passing yards and last in rushing yards in 2005? Or having to attempt FORTY-TWO Field Goals while only scoring 2 rushing TDs!
Then what can you say about 2006? The year the phrase "how Cardinal is that" came into common use.
Forget the players or the front office, the Cards turn around is due to one man, Ken Whisenhunt, who should have been the unanimous choice for Coach of the Year in 2008.
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You can be almost like Quan. Remind of him in some ways. But nobody is really like him and probably will never be...
Early is good and going to be great, but he is no Anquan Boldin
Andre Roberts is our best draftpick this year IMO from what i have seen on tapes. He is going to be amazing footballplayer
Fitz, Doucet, Breaston and Roberts, that is still going to be the best unit in the NFL
Early is good and going to be great, but he is no Anquan Boldin
Andre Roberts is our best draftpick this year IMO from what i have seen on tapes. He is going to be amazing footballplayer
Fitz, Doucet, Breaston and Roberts, that is still going to be the best unit in the NFL
