Floyd just lit up DRC!!!!

[Mulli]

I can't decide who I think is more overrated:

Vick or DRC.

 

[Russ Smith]

I can't decide who I think is more overrated:

Vick or DRC.

Asked to do what he does, cover and make plays, DRC is a very good CB. He won't play the run and he will lose concentration now and then but I strongly believe if he were still a Card, Horton would figure out how to use such a great athlete and the D would be even better.

Doesn't mean I don't like Flemming and I love what Gay has done, but DRC is such a gifted athlete Horton would figure out how to use that.

But I'm fine they got DRC and Kendricks, we have Kolb playing fairly well and we needed a QB to keep Fitz.

 

[Mulli]

Asked to do what he does, cover and make plays, DRC is a very good CB. He won't play the run and he will lose concentration now and then but I strongly believe if he were still a Card, Horton would figure out how to use such a great athlete and the D would be even better.

Doesn't mean I don't like Flemming and I love what Gay has done, but DRC is such a gifted athlete Horton would figure out how to use that.

But I'm fine they got DRC and Kendricks, we have Kolb playing fairly well and we needed a QB to keep Fitz.

Very good corners play the run WAY more than DRC does and don't make the mental errors DRC does. I will always believe that.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Pretty smart of Floyd not to retaliate and draw a penalty himself. Didn't lose his head and go after him.

 

[Russ Smith]

Very good corners play the run WAY more than DRC does and don't make the mental errors DRC does. I will always believe that.

Deion was the best cover CB ever and didn't play the run a lick. DRC can't cover like Deion did but the point is if you can cover, there's a way to use that in a defense.

The concentration thing drove me nuts though, never forget him trying to sucker the Eagles into a pick in the playoff game and letting DeSean Jackson get behind him for that TD, he was baiting them the whole time he just underestimated how fast DeSean is and how far the QB could throw the ball and nearly lost the game for us.

Those were the things with him that drove me nuts but then there's the picksix to beat the Texans, the awesome game against Atlanta in the playoffs etc.

He had his moments.

 

[Mulli]

Deion was the best cover CB ever and didn't play the run a lick. DRC can't cover like Deion did but the point is if you can cover, there's a way to use that in a defense.

The concentration thing drove me nuts though, never forget him trying to sucker the Eagles into a pick in the playoff game and letting DeSean Jackson get behind him for that TD, he was baiting them the whole time he just underestimated how fast DeSean is and how far the QB could throw the ball and nearly lost the game for us.

Those were the things with him that drove me nuts but then there's the picksix to beat the Texans, the awesome game against Atlanta in the playoffs etc.

He had his moments.

he did have his moments. But he is just nickel corner now.

And Deion was Deion.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That's a rookie vs a pro-bowl vet. DRC missed a few tackles in this game.

 

[Duckjake]

The Cards must have really dropped the ball on their pre draft due diligence on DRC if he is this bad and they used the 16th pick in the first round on him.

I just hope we're not seeing threads like this about Floyd 5 years from now.

 

[Mulli]

The Cards must have really dropped the ball on their pre draft due diligence on DRC if he is this bad and they used the 16th pick in the first round on him.

I just hope we're not seeing threads like this about Floyd 5 years from now.

You don't really know whatsuccess like DRC had his first year will do to a person. It isn't like he is out of the league like Wendall Bryant or something.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Asked to do what he does, cover and make plays, DRC is a very good CB. He won't play the run and he will lose concentration now and then but I strongly believe if he were still a Card, Horton would figure out how to use such a great athlete and the D would be even better.

Doesn't mean I don't like Flemming and I love what Gay has done, but DRC is such a gifted athlete Horton would figure out how to use that.

But I'm fine they got DRC and Kendricks, we have Kolb playing fairly well and we needed a QB to keep Fitz.

DRC is about as much of an anti-Horton guy as there is in the game today. If you can't tackle, you ain't a Horton guy, period!

 

[CardLogic]

Asked to do what he does, cover and make plays, DRC is a very good CB. He won't play the run and he will lose concentration now and then but I strongly believe if he were still a Card, Horton would figure out how to use such a great athlete and the D would be even better.

Doesn't mean I don't like Flemming and I love what Gay has done, but DRC is such a gifted athlete Horton would figure out how to use that.

Russ, it was Horton's doing that the Cardinals traded DRC. Ray knew that DRC didn't fit what he wanted in a CB.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ, it was Horton's doing that the Cardinals traded DRC. Ray knew that DRC didn't fit what he wanted in a CB.

I know that Horton wasn't a DRC fan and that's why the Cards were open to dealing him to get a QB. I'm just saying if the Cards had been able to make that deal and keep DRC, Horton would have figured out how to use him.

The kid had issues we all saw first hand, but he has tons of talent that could have been utilized. I get that because he left people liked what Floyd did, hell I did. I'm just saying DRC is still a very good cover CB and he actually played fairly well yesterday. You heard what they said Fitz said DRC is the best athlete he's ever seen in person. A guy who's played that long in the NFL that's a pretty big statement.

He doesn't fit the way Horton wants to play and again i'm fine with that we needed to get a QB.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I know that Horton wasn't a DRC fan and that's why the Cards were open to dealing him to get a QB. I'm just saying if the Cards had been able to make that deal and keep DRC, Horton would have figured out how to use him.

The kid had issues we all saw first hand, but he has tons of talent that could have been utilized. I get that because he left people liked what Floyd did, hell I did. I'm just saying DRC is still a very good cover CB and he actually played fairly well yesterday. You heard what they said Fitz said DRC is the best athlete he's ever seen in person. A guy who's played that long in the NFL that's a pretty big statement.

He doesn't fit the way Horton wants to play and again i'm fine with that we needed to get a QB.

Russ - you're missing the extremely simple/fundamental point... DRC on a defense led by Horton would never happen... Ever. DRC is not at all the type of player Horton would coach. DRC is a soft-ass pansy who refuses to tackle. The two would never co-exist...

 

[Chopper0080]

The Cards must have really dropped the ball on their pre draft due diligence on DRC if he is this bad and they used the 16th pick in the first round on him.

I just hope we're not seeing threads like this about Floyd 5 years from now.

Well, we changed systems which hurt DRC's value because he was never much of a physical pressence. Also, in regards to small school prospects, there is always a reason they didn't play for a big time college program. For some kids it's acedemics, others it's legal issues, and for some it is drugs. The common factor with these players is having to coach the "big man on campus" syndrome out of them. DRC got by on pure athletic ability in college, flashed at the combine, and teams assumed he would work to develop into a top Pro. Now, we are 4 years in and he is still a great athlete, but he obviously isn't very mature or disciplined mentally. I can't speak to his time dedicated to film study, but I would imagine he does the minimum.

The hardest thing to determine with prospects is their desire to be great, how hard they are willing to work to get there, and how hard they are willing to work to stay there.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ - you're missing the extremely simple/fundamental point... DRC on a defense led by Horton would never happen... Ever. DRC is not at all the type of player Horton would coach. DRC is a soft-ass pansy who refuses to tackle. The two would never co-exist...

From Darren Urban 3 days ago.

"When the Cardinals hired Ray Horton to be defensive coordinator, Horton talked about having “little guys who could hit,” and anyone who watched DRC had to wonder if DRC fit that bill.

(Although I will say this — Horton has made it clear to me that if a guy is a good enough cover corner, other issues can be overlooked.)"

I'm not saying he's Horton's ideal player he clearly isn't. I am saying if he were still on the team Horton would find a way to utilize him well, that's what horton does he figures out how to get the most out of his players on defense. I'm sure he'd be telling DRC to be tougher that comes wtihout saying, but I don't think DRC would be riding the bench because he doesn't tackle. He's just too talented to keep off the field.

 

[BigRedRage]

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[Cardiac]

DRC is a lazy, immature punk. Mad athletic skills and his first year he looked like a keeper but his 2nd year was not good at all.