Football's Future Mock 4/20 3 Round

[earthsci]

RD 1 - Jay Cutler, QB
RD 2 - Daniel Bullocks, S
RD 3 - Ryan O'Callaghan, OL

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/mock2006.html

 

[ChemTheThriller]

I hope to god we don't take Cutler, he isn't going to do well in the NFL...

 

[sr7706]

How the hell do you know?

 

[bankybruce]

I hope to god we don't take Cutler, he isn't going to do well in the NFL...

is this vince young?

 

[Arizona's Finest]

RD 1 - Jay Cutler, QB
RD 2 - Daniel Bullocks, S
RD 3 - Ryan O'Callaghan, OL

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/mock2006.html

I could live with that but i just think its a mistake to place a second round priority on a position like FS. Especially when we have stud guys like Wilson and Rolle back there.

I think a FA signee like Hope or Demps would have been the smartest thing to do, but I'm just a stupid fan....

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I hope to god we don't take Cutler, he isn't going to do well in the NFL...

How the hell do you know?

 

[football karma]

Im off OCallaghan -- he has had at least two shoulder surgeries in college--

no thanks

 

[seesred]

These folks don't know Green very well !!!! BPA, these are clearly not, with maybe Cutler as the excpetion. I said Maybe..

GBR
40

 

[ChemTheThriller]

Because i'm a n00b on these forums doesnt mean jack...

over at maddenmania.com I have around 9,600 posts (awhole lot dealing with NFL/NCAA discussion)

Jay Cutler was decent in college, he was the leader of a team that was awful every year, he has hit or miss accuracy, he has a cannon but a lot of QBs do and he is another that doesnt really know how to use it...

Jay cutler was 61st in QB rating last season... 61st
His completion % last year he was ranked.... 61st
His YPA he came in with at 73rd
he also was tied with 4 other players for 24th most passing TDs

He was only top 20 in 1 Catagory... Passing yards 17th

On top of all of that he has combined wins of 11 TOTAL WINS in college football and get this since being at Vandy here our there wins since 2002
Furman- 02
Uconn - 02
tenn. chattenooga - 03
kentucky - 03
miss. st - 04
east. kentucky - 04
Ricmond - 05
Miss - 05
ark - 05
wf - 05
tenn - 05

There combined records are: 28-49 (im discluding the d1-aa teams since they might be badass in d-1aa and of course they still arent anyones level in d-1a their combined records were 25-23)

So a kid that only can win against the poorest competition they throw at him, and a kid that isn't statistically near the top in anything SHOULD be drafted at #10 overall?

give me a break please....

 

[Shogun]

Because i'm a n00b on these forums doesnt mean jack...

over at maddenmania.com I have around 9,600 posts (awhole lot dealing with NFL/NCAA discussion)

Is that you Peppers?

 

[ChemTheThriller]

Peppers90..... who are you? noble?

 

[Shogun]

I am not fond of that mock.

 

[Pariah]

Because i'm a n00b on these forums doesnt mean jack...

over at maddenmania.com I have around 9,600 posts (awhole lot dealing with NFL/NCAA discussion)

Jay Cutler was decent in college, he was the leader of a team that was awful every year, he has hit or miss accuracy, he has a cannon but a lot of QBs do and he is another that doesnt really know how to use it...

Jay cutler was 61st in QB rating last season... 61st
His completion % last year he was ranked.... 61st
His YPA he came in with at 73rd
he also was tied with 4 other players for 24th most passing TDs

He was only top 20 in 1 Catagory... Passing yards 17th

On top of all of that he has combined wins of 11 TOTAL WINS in college football and get this since being at Vandy here our there wins since 2002
Furman- 02
Uconn - 02
tenn. chattenooga - 03
kentucky - 03
miss. st - 04
east. kentucky - 04
Ricmond - 05
Miss - 05
ark - 05
wf - 05
tenn - 05

There combined records are: 28-49 (im discluding the d1-aa teams since they might be badass in d-1aa and of course they still arent anyones level in d-1a their combined records were 25-23)

So a kid that only can win against the poorest competition they throw at him, and a kid that isn't statistically near the top in anything SHOULD be drafted at #10 overall?

give me a break please....

And yet, somehow he's the 5th ranked passer in 2005. I guess he must be doing something right.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2005&div=4&rpt=IA_playerpass&site=org

Cutler will be a pretty good pro early in his NFL career. He's got the arm and the instincts that it takes to stay succeed.

 

[Shogun]

Peppers90..... who are you? noble?

Yup.

 

[ChemTheThriller]

And yet, somehow he's the 5th ranked passer in 2005. I guess he must be doing something right.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2005&div=4&rpt=IA_playerpass&site=org

Cutler will be a pretty good pro early in his NFL career. He's got the arm and the instincts that it takes to stay succeed.

The arm and instincts!?!

He's quoted as a poor mans brett favre... most take it good but sadly to tell you its a terrible thing, because only favre can do what he does... Cutler wont be able to work it like favre does... He has a strong arm sure, but so did Ryan leaf and Jeff George.

 

[Pariah]

The arm and instincts!?!

He's quoted as a poor mans brett favre... most take it good but sadly to tell you its a terrible thing, because only favre can do what he does... Cutler wont be able to work it like favre does... He has a strong arm sure, but so did Ryan leaf and Jeff George.

I don't know about a "poor man's Brett Farve." I know he's being compared to Favre, though. And I'm not sure how you can call that a bad thing. Like him or not, Farve is one of the best QBs to have played in the NFL. Hell, if Jay Cutler ends up being 75% of what Farve is, he'll be a helluva QB.

Leaf didn't have the maturity that Cutler has, and George didn't have the leadership skills (and Cutler doesn't have George's chip on the shoulder).

Nice of you to stop in and hand us down wisdom from the mountain, though.

 

[ChemTheThriller]

And yet, somehow he's the 5th ranked passer in 2005. I guess he must be doing something right.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2005&div=4&rpt=IA_playerpass&site=org

Cutler will be a pretty good pro early in his NFL career. He's got the arm and the instincts that it takes to stay succeed.

actually lets take a closer look at this list
For the draft its pretty safe to stay the QB list goes

Leinart
Young
Cutler

Now according to this list
these players are better then Leinart (who has a heisman/only lost what? 1 game in his career?)

Cody Hodges
Colt Brennan
John Beck
Brett Basanez
Jay Cutler
Brady Quinn
Kent Smith
Josh Betts
Matt Bohnet
Darrell Hackney

Ok so not that many more are considered better then Leinart only 10 QBs... that have 0 National Championships/3 are from throw every down offenses...

but what is more astounding is the fact they have Vince Young ranked 61st in QBs... Yet he wont fall out of the top 7 in the NFL draft and of those 60 other QBs ahead of hm maybe 8 will be drafted...

How can you even use that list...

 

[ChemTheThriller]

I don't know about a "poor man's Brett Farve." I know he's being compared to Favre, though. And I'm not sure how you can call that a bad thing. Like him or not, Farve is one of the best QBs to have played in the NFL. Hell, if Jay Cutler ends up being 75% of what Farve is, he'll be a helluva QB.

Leaf didn't have the maturity that Cutler has, and George didn't have the leadership skills (and Cutler doesn't have George's chip on the shoulder).

Nice of you to stop in and hand us down wisdom from the mountain, though.

No, no 75% of brett Favre is a INT every other pass way? because he does stupid things that only 100% of him can do, he plays crazy makes poor decisions but because he has the experiance/luck/arm strength he makes some good happen...

trust me man ive lived in wisconsin my whole life watching just about every game of his...

oh and no problem to stop by and drop knowledge


oh and to the poster that said he just found it didnt write it, I know I just said I hope we dont draft cutler because he will be a bust...

 

[Shogun]

I'd take Cutler in a heartbeat....










....if we traded down. I like him, but not lotto pick like. He'll be solid. Now let's get back on the Ernie Sims bandwagon!

 

[Pariah]

How can you even use that list...

The list is compiled by the NCAA. But, you are right about one thing--it doesn't rank what I thought it did. I thought it compiled some of these stats to come up with this ranking--it doesn't; it ranks average number of completetions per game. The stat category isn't clearly called out in the title.

So, it makes sense that Younbg would be 61st--he didn't throw as much as the other guys.

I'll still stand by my assertion that Cutler will be a good pro, though, just as I'm sure you'll stand by yours.

 

[BigRedFan]

Good post. Maybe it was the team that pulled down his stats and he will be a good pro. Maybe not. The point is no one knows and there are too many questions to justify a 10th round pick. At that level you want a sure thing or close to it.

Because i'm a n00b on these forums doesnt mean jack...

over at maddenmania.com I have around 9,600 posts (awhole lot dealing with NFL/NCAA discussion)

Jay Cutler was decent in college, he was the leader of a team that was awful every year, he has hit or miss accuracy, he has a cannon but a lot of QBs do and he is another that doesnt really know how to use it...

Jay cutler was 61st in QB rating last season... 61st
His completion % last year he was ranked.... 61st
His YPA he came in with at 73rd
he also was tied with 4 other players for 24th most passing TDs

He was only top 20 in 1 Catagory... Passing yards 17th

On top of all of that he has combined wins of 11 TOTAL WINS in college football and get this since being at Vandy here our there wins since 2002
Furman- 02
Uconn - 02
tenn. chattenooga - 03
kentucky - 03
miss. st - 04
east. kentucky - 04
Ricmond - 05
Miss - 05
ark - 05
wf - 05
tenn - 05

There combined records are: 28-49 (im discluding the d1-aa teams since they might be badass in d-1aa and of course they still arent anyones level in d-1a their combined records were 25-23)

So a kid that only can win against the poorest competition they throw at him, and a kid that isn't statistically near the top in anything SHOULD be drafted at #10 overall?

give me a break please....

 

[CardinalChris]

Because i'm a n00b on these forums doesnt mean jack...

over at maddenmania.com I have around 9,600 posts (awhole lot dealing with NFL/NCAA discussion)

Jay Cutler was decent in college, he was the leader of a team that was awful every year, he has hit or miss accuracy, he has a cannon but a lot of QBs do and he is another that doesnt really know how to use it...

Jay cutler was 61st in QB rating last season... 61st
His completion % last year he was ranked.... 61st
His YPA he came in with at 73rd
he also was tied with 4 other players for 24th most passing TDs

He was only top 20 in 1 Catagory... Passing yards 17th

On top of all of that he has combined wins of 11 TOTAL WINS in college football and get this since being at Vandy here our there wins since 2002
Furman- 02
Uconn - 02
tenn. chattenooga - 03
kentucky - 03
miss. st - 04
east. kentucky - 04
Ricmond - 05
Miss - 05
ark - 05
wf - 05
tenn - 05

There combined records are: 28-49 (im discluding the d1-aa teams since they might be badass in d-1aa and of course they still arent anyones level in d-1a their combined records were 25-23)

So a kid that only can win against the poorest competition they throw at him, and a kid that isn't statistically near the top in anything SHOULD be drafted at #10 overall?

give me a break please....

The guy played at VANDERBILT..... you know, the JC team that plays in argueably the toughest conference in college fotball. Win mean squat because he had squat.

Now if you wanna talk about ability to read defenses, mechanics, etc to make your arguement, fine. But quoting stats and wins in his situation is sort of short sighted.

 

[ChemTheThriller]

The guy played at VANDERBILT..... you know, the JC team that plays in argueably the toughest conference in college fotball. Win mean squat because he had squat.

Now if you wanna talk about ability to read defenses, mechanics, etc to make your arguement, fine. But quoting stats and wins in his situation is sort of short sighted.

a top QB will rise his team above and do at least SOMETHING...

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I think they got that from John Cena, a pro wrestler. He does it to say "you can't see me."





oops....wrong thread

 

[CardLogic]

I think they got that from John Cena, a pro wrestler. He does it to say "you can't see me."

oops....wrong thread

No, I think your post fits in perfectly with this thread...