For all who don't think the REFS cannot be rigged

[Russ Smith]

Not necessarily, leaks can be contained with strong non-disclosure agreements and if even if leaks did emerge look no further than what happened in pro soccer where match fixing problems are routinely investigated, even at the FIFA level, including looking at the referees, yet the sports remains as popular as ever.

Yep, in the Pats case the whole reason one former employee waited so long to show the tapes he had was he'd stolen the tapes from the Pats and they'd made it very clear they'd prosecute and sue him if he did anything with it.

They eventually reached a settlement and it's widely believed part of that settlement was he only gave the NFL the tapes the pats approved which is why the tape of them filming the Rams walkthrough before the Super Bowl was not there even though the guy had told numerous people he had it.

 

[Jetstream Green]

lol... having to play "perfect". we turned the ball over THREE TIMES, missed a FG, got a stupid penalty to take us out of another FG, threw TDs in the dirt, threw AN AWFUL pick into double coverage at the end of the game and the defense allowed a 3rd String QB to score on 5 consecutive drives. they didn't have to play perfect... they had to play AVERAGE and they win that game. Same thing with the Rams game.

There is nothing funny about the post if one considers events in a game do not happen in a vacuum. Sports are a mental as well as a physical event which follow though the whole game and is interconnected. After one gets dumped on though out a game which is played for a very small margin of error, it takes more than average focus after these events which occur late in the game where our inability then is questioned to follow through. After looking at the game. Calls like the TD for Pitt, I get because it is hard to tell how the guy landed on his ass and it was called a TD. I'm cool with that and accept it. The one late hit on Campbell was legit, he hit the QB below the knees and I get it... but after so many dang plays of WTH that where completely unacceptable by a ref, it narrows ones ability and you have to be in a perfect state of mind to follow through in my opinion

 

[BigRedRage]

Reminds me of the John Brown fumble yesterday. He clearly had the ball and it showed on the replay. But, they let it be decided on all the Steelers grinding away at the ball. No way they were going to give it back to Az being that it was in Pitt

on the replay the ball definitely came out before he was down and he did not recover it

 

[Sandan]

I'm not aware of any logic as to why the NFL would've been favoring the Pats over the Colts. The Pats and the NFL don't like each other very much right now. If they were out to favor a team, I think it would've been the Colts.

Bad calls every game, some worse than others, and with the instant coverage the NFL gets every fan who cares to, nationwide, knows within minutes a botched call has been made. Whether they are watching that game or not.

Pats = > $$

 

[Cheesebeef]

There is nothing funny about the post if one considers events in a game do not happen in a vacuum. Sports are a mental as well as a physical event which follow though the whole game and is interconnected. After one gets dumped on though out a game which is played for a very small margin of error, it takes more than average focus after these events which occur late in the game where our inability then is questioned to follow through. After looking at the game. Calls like the TD for Pitt, I get because it is hard to tell how the guy landed on his ass and it was called a TD. I'm cool with that and accept it. The one late hit on Campbell was legit, he hit the QB below the knees and I get it... but after so many dang plays of WTH that where completely unacceptable by a ref, it narrows ones ability and you have to be in a perfect state of mind to follow through in my opinion

again, you're talking about PERFECTION when the team was making major mistakes ALL game long. Missed FG early, throwing the ball to Brown in the dirt on a sure TD, Floyd getting interfered with early in the play, but STILL dropping the ball for no apparent reason after. And then continued mistakes later in the game... while we were STILL winning.

And calls like the TD for Pitt... you get? It wasn't a disputed call. It was a TD as he got his butt, foot and knee in bounds. Seriously, when you're complaining about LEGIT calls that happened and then saying the mind can't take it, you might as well be saying the mind can't take ANYTHING.

That was a BAD team we played with terrible QBs and huge chunks of an average defense missing and we got jobbed on one drive. Big whoop. If you can't overcome that, you're mentally freaking weak.

 

[ajcardfan]

That was a BAD team we played with terrible QBs and huge chunks of an average defense missing and we got jobbed on one drive. Big whoop. If you can't overcome that, you're mentally freaking weak.

You are making a major leap in logic there.

I don't think there is any tangible evidence to believe this team is mentally weaker than last season when they pulled out all those Ws late in games. Last year, we DID get some key bounces, calls and big plays that EASILY could've broke the other way for our opponent. Versus the Rams and Steelers, those things didn't happen. You can't always win just by force of will, there is randomness to the game that is unpredictable. Breaks, bad calls, big plays by your guys or the others.... tend to even over time.

That said, our mistakes put us in the position where the unpredictability of the game could bite us in the butt. And it did.

 

[NJCardFan]

You are making a major leap in logic there.

I don't think there is any tangible evidence to believe this team is mentally weaker than last season when they pulled out all those Ws late in games. Last year, we DID get some key bounces, calls and big plays that EASILY could've broke the other way for our opponent. Versus the Rams and Steelers, those things didn't happen. You can't always win just by force of will, there is randomness to the game that is unpredictable. Breaks, bad calls, big plays by your guys or the others.... tend to even over time.

That said, our mistakes put us in the position where the unpredictability of the game could bite us in the butt. And it did.

Actually, in both losses this year dumb mistakes all around. We weren't beaten. We beat ourselves.

 

[Cards_Campos]

You are making a major leap in logic there.

I don't think there is any tangible evidence to believe this team is mentally weaker than last season when they pulled out all those Ws late in games. Last year, we DID get some key bounces, calls and big plays that EASILY could've broke the other way for our opponent. Versus the Rams and Steelers, those things didn't happen. You can't always win just by force of will, there is randomness to the game that is unpredictable. Breaks, bad calls, big plays by your guys or the others.... tend to even over time.

That said, our mistakes put us in the position where the unpredictability of the game could bite us in the butt. And it did.

Perfectly said. The bad calls kept Pittsburgh in the game and then with the game close our mistakes became more glaring. Make the calls correct and even our bad play wouldn't have made us lose. We probably win 27-15 and the experts would be saying look how good this team is because they had 3 turnovers And still won. We had 500 yards of offense. Plus don't you find it strange EPSN has us 4th still?? Maybe some or most watched the film and said. Man they got screwed.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You are making a major leap in logic there.

I don't think there is any tangible evidence to believe this team is mentally weaker than last season when they pulled out all those Ws late in games. Last year, we DID get some key bounces, calls and big plays that EASILY could've broke the other way for our opponent. Versus the Rams and Steelers, those things didn't happen. You can't always win just by force of will, there is randomness to the game that is unpredictable. Breaks, bad calls, big plays by your guys or the others.... tend to even over time.

That said, our mistakes put us in the position where the unpredictability of the game could bite us in the butt. And it did.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Dude]

As we learned with the NBA a ref with some problems can and has rigged some outcomes. I wouldn't doubt it has happened in all sports. But to think the NFL and the refs got together to rig the league for a few teams year in and year out is just full blown stupid.

All the teams out of the fix would have to be in on it. Why would they want a winning team. They're all in for the Patriots and a chosen few. Lord knows our franchise is wasting their money and hard work trying to build something. Senior wasn't so cheep after all he just knew better. It only takes a few hundred people every year working together for years keeping it hush for years for this whacked out conspiracy to work.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As we learned with the NBA a ref with some problems can and has rigged some outcomes. I wouldn't doubt it has happened in all sports. But to think the NFL and the refs got together to rig the league for a few teams year in and year out is just full blown stupid.

All the teams out of the fix would have to be in on it. Why would they want a winning team. They're all in for the Patriots and a chosen few. Lord knows our franchise is wasting their money and hard work trying to build something. Senior wasn't so cheep after all he just knew better. It only takes a few hundred people every year working together for years keeping it hush for years for this whacked out conspiracy to work.

my lord... how can the NFL be ALL IN for the Patriots? Trying to suspend their QB for four games and dragging his name through the mud for 8 months is a funny way of being all in. If that was truly the case, wouldn't they have had the report mended to say Brady and the Pats did nothing wrong?

 

[Cards_Campos]

I'm not saying they constantly cheat or rig games. The Cardinals are good and I think that is an accepted fact. But if the Steelers lost that game they would have been 3 games back. The Steelers are a money maker If they are relevant. Cards lose that game they still win 11-12 this year. Why did the refs blow the Seattle game against Detroit. Before the game was over an ex ref was on the broadcast saying they blew the call. That rule is as basic as offside. You cannot bat the ball period. Yet Seattle winning meant more than Detroit winning. Seattle can still get a wild card or catch us if they get hot. They don't care if a few low followed teams make the playoffs or super bowl. They Just want to make sure the big 6 are relevant. Which those teams get the calls.

 

[ajcardfan]

Seattle is not one of the big 6 franchises of the NFL. As soon as they start losing they will go back to barely being noticed again.

 

[Dude]

my lord... how can the NFL be ALL IN for the Patriots? Trying to suspend their QB for four games and dragging his name through the mud for 8 months is a funny way of being all in. If that was truly the case, wouldn't they have had the report mended to say Brady and the Pats did nothing wrong?

That's my point. It's all hogwash.