Forget Mike Adams

[BigRedRage]

I don't care that he smokes pot. I care that he's dumb enough to do it before the combine and jeopardize his big payday.

it is sad, most potheads clean up to get measily job. This dude is interviewing for his career and a lifetime of wealth. At least drink a detox drink, dummy.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't care that he smokes pot. I care that he's dumb enough to do it before the combine and jeopardize his big payday.

Yes, this is the biggest red flag for me. To know you have a drug test which will directly effect your ability to get a job or influence the level of your pay and still test positive is really telling.

 

[Chopper0080]

it is sad, most potheads clean up to get measily job. This dude is interviewing for his career and a lifetime of wealth. At least drink a detox drink, dummy.

It could have come up as a diluted sample which most testing sites would register as a positive test. I know where my organization tests this is the case. We can't ever really know, but that might have been it.

 

[Jetstream Green]

And half of the players in the NFL are laying back and smoking a joint now in the off season going "I can't believe he pulled a Ricky Williams and got caught" lol

 

[52brandon]

Vicodin - A substance regulated and approved by the federal government to line pockets of pharmasuetical companies that has a massive list of horrible side affects and is incredibly addictive. Also if too much is taken, deadly.

Marijuana - A substance the government refuses to acknowledge that has a very small amount of side affects and has 0 cases of death no matter how much you take. Not addictive.

Sure its regulated, who gives a ****? regulation doesnt mean it is safe, not addictive or a good thing.

I am for vicoden, it does great things. its also very dangerous and addictive. Lets not be dense sheeple.

"abusing" marijuana is an oxymoron in comparison to Vicodin. Marijuana is not dangerous enough to inherit regulation.

If you follow the law of the land just because they say you should, there is no point in talking to me about it. They also fill your kids with pink slime, allow massive antibiotics in your chicken and much much more. Follow the herd.

I've heard the 0 cases of deaths stat before, but take it with a grain of salt. Smoking pot is rough on your lungs just like smoking cigarettes. Being that pot is illegal, I would imagine anybody that did get cancer from it would not say it was from pot out of fear of losing their insurance. Not to mention, it really slows down reaction speeds, etc. So driving high could also lead to death

however, I have absolutely no problem with people smoking pot. I personally don't, it makes me too lazy (I'm lazy enough without it lol). But I have plenty of friends that still do. Off the top of my head, the best examples I can think of for how it doesn't make EVERYBODY a lazy turd like it does me, is 2 friends of mine that work in construction 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, smoke all day every day. Alcohol is more addictive and dangerous as well

 

[WildBB]

At the same time, the rules are the rules and its not too smart to test postiive at the combine.

Dumb or not....bottom line, this.

 

[WildBB]

Good

1 #75 from the Big 10 who's average is enough

And This!

 

[pinetopred]

I'm a carpenter by trade, Ive had to take one piss test in my life about 6 months ago to get a gov. job( I don't do any drugs so no worries ), got the job, worked there for 4 months, anyway overtime come to find out most of the guys on the job were drugies that cleaned up for the piss test, then went right back to what they were doing. I don't think the NFL is any different, (no doubt there are a number of guys with drug problems)but how dumb is this dude that he can't even clean up for the piss test HE KNOWS IS COMING, I don't want him!!! even if he has once in 20 year type ability, you can't fix stupid.

 

[JeffGollin]

It's rumored Adams will now go to whatever team drafts Weeden.

 

[desertdawg]

All pot politics, rumors, facts, and endorsements aside...that is pretty stupid. I imagine many of these cats chill out when it comes draft time, the ones caught up are stupid, not because the use ganja, but because they know it can effect their future. Stupid stupid stupid, young is an excuse but you gotta have folks around you, in your ear and head letting you know this isn't party time. I wouldn't pull a Ricky Williams and I'm a big fan of this plant. Not judging anybody, I get down because it does help me out day to day, but I've dropped it often when a hoop has to be jumped through for me to achieve a goal. I've gone years without when I was doing CNC machine work for aerospace and Gov Jobs. To get caught up in this shows lack of vision, just plain weak in the head if you can't turn down the headdies with millions on the line.

 

[Buckybird]

It's rumored Adams will now go to whatever team drafts Weeden.

 

[Cardiac]

Just another check mark in the "he makes stupid choices" column.

What round does he drop to now? 4th or 5th is my guess.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Just another check mark in the "he makes stupid choices" column.

What round does he drop to now? 4th or 5th is my guess.

They seem to treat the issue in isolation these days. If it's one of several negative check marks then he's severely downgraded. If not, then not much of a drop in status.

 

[BigRedRage]

It could have come up as a diluted sample which most testing sites would register as a positive test. I know where my organization tests this is the case. We can't ever really know, but that might have been it.

Not tons of water but a detox drink itself. You only drink 64 ounces and its 3 hours before a test so it doesnt show diluted. have done it many times over.

I've heard the 0 cases of deaths stat before, but take it with a grain of salt. Smoking pot is rough on your lungs just like smoking cigarettes. Being that pot is illegal, I would imagine anybody that did get cancer from it would not say it was from pot out of fear of losing their insurance. Not to mention, it really slows down reaction speeds, etc. So driving high could also lead to death

however, I have absolutely no problem with people smoking pot. I personally don't, it makes me too lazy (I'm lazy enough without it lol). But I have plenty of friends that still do. Off the top of my head, the best examples I can think of for how it doesn't make EVERYBODY a lazy turd like it does me, is 2 friends of mine that work in construction 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, smoke all day every day. Alcohol is more addictive and dangerous as well

Smoking is bad no matter what you do but keep in mind, the average weed smoker is a bowl a day. The average cigarette smoker is a pack a day. Unless you are 100% out of control with your weed smoking the stats will still be FAR less than that of a cigarette smoker.

PS if your in a huge medical problem, youll tell your doctor you smoke pot. What are they gonna do, arrest you?

 

[Rats]

Stories out he may still go top 10 to Buffalo...I can see it happening. Lot of this gets blown out of proportion. Still probably best Ot in the draft. If he falls we should trade down abd get him. I said the same on Sapp years ago and had us taking Dockett with our 2nd rd if he fell. Both have worked out well. Not many of these guys are rocket scientist so they make million dollar mistakes.

 

[52brandon]

Not tons of water but a detox drink itself. You only drink 64 ounces and its 3 hours before a test so it doesnt show diluted. have done it many times over.

on some tests it does. I've only known 1 person that actually had that happen though

Smoking is bad no matter what you do but keep in mind, the average weed smoker is a bowl a day. The average cigarette smoker is a pack a day. Unless you are 100% out of control with your weed smoking the stats will still be FAR less than that of a cigarette smoker.

PS if your in a huge medical problem, youll tell your doctor you smoke pot. What are they gonna do, arrest you?

not arrest you, but dropping medical coverage could be a huge issue in that case

 

[Cardiac]

Stories out he may still go top 10 to Buffalo...I can see it happening. Lot of this gets blown out of proportion. Still probably best Ot in the draft. If he falls we should trade down abd get him. I said the same on Sapp years ago and had us taking Dockett with our 2nd rd if he fell. Both have worked out well. Not many of these guys are rocket scientist so they make million dollar mistakes.

I have seen a mock with him in the top 10. There were already concerns about his commitment, motivation and decision making. Now he pulls the ultimate stupid decision......so yeah I think he slides big time.

I would bet he is off some teams boards entirely. I hope he is off the Cards board or at least they won't look at taking him until the 6th rd.

This isn't Warren Sapp who was and still is an idiot but was also a great talent.

 

[TigToad]

I agree completely. One is illegal, one is not.

Wow, I disagree and really believe there is a significant difference between vicodin (a substance prescribed by a medical professional in a recommended dosage) and marijuana (a substance that is not prescribed by a medical professional in a recommended dosage). Both can be abused, but vicodin is much more regulated.

 

[52brandon]

I agree completely. One is illegal, one is not.

kinda. Vicodin is still illegal without a prescription. And pot is legal with a card on the state level in some states. Consistency would be nice, but not in the new USA...

 

[BigRedRage]

kinda. Vicodin is still illegal without a prescription. And pot is legal with a card on the state level in some states. Consistency would be nice, but not in the new USA...

progress

 

[52brandon]

progress

true. I'm not gonna get into politics, but I don't see the purpose in outlawing pot. The arrests and felonies (in some states, like here) can ruin good people's lives for what I would consider a civil ticket offense. Plus, if they tax it like booze and cigs, it can provide crazy revenue, that they can always use, especially now

 

[BigRedRage]

preach on. its all a giant orgy of idiocracy.

 

[52brandon]

preach on. its all a giant orgy of idiocracy.

lol, pretty much

 

[JeffGollin]

...I don't see the purpose in outlawing pot. The arrests and felonies (in some states, like here) can ruin good people's lives for what I would consider a civil ticket offense. Plus, if they tax it like booze and cigs, it can provide crazy revenue, that they can always use, especially now

I by and large agree - legal and social attitudes toward weed are hypocritical and overreaching. However, it's all not that simple. There are legal and health concerns that need addressing:

Legal - If grass or other drugs directly or indirectly jeopardize public safety (for example, DUI or committing crimes to support a habit) then that's a problem - possibly best addressed by penalizing the behavior rather than banning pot altogether.

Health - Back in the day, grass was considered non-addictive and "organic." Since then, other (real or imagined) health issues have come to the fore; most notably: Potency is many-times what it used to be. Changes in brain-chemistry and degradation of the immune system are suspect. And a whole range of psychological issues associated with pot continue to be debated.

Specific to football performance on the field & in the training room, we might want to ask ourselves the following question - "If you were about to be operated on, would you want your brain-surgeon to be sober or high?"

If I were a GM, I'd be leery of drafting a guy with a grass or other substance-abuse problem, but also believe that, as a society, our anti-weed laws are hypocritical and tantamount to killing a mosquito with an elephant gun.

 

[BigRedRage]

I by and large agree - legal and social attitudes toward weed are hypocritical and overreaching. However, it's all not that simple. There are legal and health concerns that need addressing:

Legal - If grass or other drugs directly or indirectly jeopardize public safety (for example, DUI or committing crimes to support a habit) then that's a problem - possibly best addressed by penalizing the behavior rather than banning pot altogether.

Health - Back in the day, grass was considered non-addictive and "organic." Since then, other (real or imagined) health issues have come to the fore; most notably: Potency is many-times what it used to be. Changes in brain-chemistry and degradation of the immune system are suspect. And a whole range of psychological issues associated with pot continue to be debated.

Specific to football performance on the field & in the training room, we might want to ask ourselves the following question - "If you were about to be operated on, would you want your brain-surgeon to be sober or high?"

If I were a GM, I'd be leery of drafting a guy with a grass or other substance-abuse problem, but also believe that, as a society, our anti-weed laws are hypocritical and tantamount to killing a mosquito with an elephant gun.

potency has equated to less risk IMO as now instead of a giant joint, people smoke one bowl or less.

Psychosis issues could still be present but if you have psychosis issues, all drugs affect that. Even Alcohol.

High at work on ANYTHING is unnacceptable.