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Former GM Steve Keim is joining a Cardinals-centric podcast with longtime Valley voices Tim Ring and Mike Jurecki
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I actually like Bo Brack. He always includes his background perspective to support his argumentation.
You can agree or disagree, but there is no ranting and he argues his opinion.
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It’s wild that the NFL knows exactly who Steve Keim is and the best he can do is a scammy recruiting service and a local podcast.
If your assertion is true in regards to the league knowing exactly who keim is....why would it be wild there are no jobs for him?
Oh yeah...and don't discount his memorabilia TikTok shop
I can't stand Keim, and he has some cheek considering the state he left the team and drafting players like Isaiah Simmons at #8 who *checks notes* played only ST's snaps for the 2nd worst team in the league on Sunday.
But can you really disagree with anything he says here?
Keim also talked about the “underfunded, under-talented’ defense, Marvin Harrison, Jr’s slow start and Kelvin Beachum replacing Jonah Williams at right tackle.
Keim on Kyler Murray’s missed opportunities against the Bills: “Trey McBride was open one time. I think it would have been a touchdown down in the red zone. I think he missed Harrison, Jr. There was somebody else I thought he missed on a wide open play, maybe even a busted coverage. Those are all things that come with studying the game, studying the tape. And those were areas that, quite frankly, Kyler had to improve.
“To his defense, sometimes when you get guys like that who are the best athlete on the field their whole life, (they) develop bad habits. Running too much, trying to get outside the pocket instead of hitting your back foot and making a quick decision.”
More Keim on Murray: “The thing with him, obviously, is can he do it on a consistent basis, for 16, 17, whatever weeks? That is, for me, the million dollar question. I think sometimes you get guys like him, the more athletic quarterbacks, who can develop bad habits because they can do so many things athletically that they can get away with it.
“So studying the game, learning how to process information, all of those things aren’t as on the forefront as it would be for a pocket passer that stands tall in the pocket. The guy does things that are just rare, but at the same time, the studying, the processing of information, that’s what makes you great and consistent in this league at that position.”
Keim on the defense being underfunded, and if Ossenfort is on a budget (presumably set by owner Michael Bidwill): “He’s certainly on a budget. I think we all know football well enough to know that if you have to manufacture pressure, you’re going to get caught. They don’t have guys on the edge that can get pressure naturally with a four-man front. So when they do have to bring it, it’s just a matter of time (before they get burned). You get the big lead, and then you give up that big lead because of your inability to consistently pressure the quarterback. He sits back there all day, and if it’s a guy like Josh Allen, who is a tremendous talent, it’s going to catch up to you eventually.
“That, to me, is probably the most concerning thing, is that we (the Cardinals) weren’t able to put our foot on their throat when we had them down. So, again, underfunded, under-talented.”
Keim on Marvin Harrison Jr.’s debut: “I think the guy is a tremendous prospect, and obviously is going to be a great player for many years, in my opinion. But when I watched the tape, I see a guy that looks like a rookie. And those guys are going to have to go through those growing pains. A guy in a new offense, as a rookie, hadn’t had a lot of time with Kyler in the preseason.
“There are a lot of timing things that have to take place. And also, when you have a young man like that who’s thinking a lot, they don’t get to play as fast as they normally play. They’re thinking, going through the motions, they look a little rigid and stiff in their movement because they’re thinking about what the play-call is.”
Keim on Harrison, Jr’s nerves being a factor: “I don’t care how big of a stage you played on at Ohio State. There is going to be jitters. It’s a different speed of the game. Let’s not forget: Larry Fitzgerald was not the best player on the field his rookie year every game.”
Keim on the Jonah Williams injury: “It certainly affected the team, but at the same time, Kelvin Beachum is a true pro. He is certainly good enough to get by, be sort of a patchwork player. … Any time you lose an offensive lineman, and particularly a tackle, those guys are hard to find. Supply and demand is a real issue at that position. That’s why guys are making $20 million at tackle.”
Keim on the eroding skills of Beachum: “Beach is more of a finesse player, a technician. At this point in his career – guys’ skills diminish to a degree. At the same time, everybody’s got injuries and everybody’s got excuses. But excuses don’t matter at the end of the day when you win or lose.”
But can you really disagree with anything he says here?
Keim also talked about the “underfunded, under-talented’ defense, Marvin Harrison, Jr’s slow start and Kelvin Beachum replacing Jonah Williams at right tackle.
Keim on Kyler Murray’s missed opportunities against the Bills: “Trey McBride was open one time. I think it would have been a touchdown down in the red zone. I think he missed Harrison, Jr. There was somebody else I thought he missed on a wide open play, maybe even a busted coverage. Those are all things that come with studying the game, studying the tape. And those were areas that, quite frankly, Kyler had to improve.
“To his defense, sometimes when you get guys like that who are the best athlete on the field their whole life, (they) develop bad habits. Running too much, trying to get outside the pocket instead of hitting your back foot and making a quick decision.”
More Keim on Murray: “The thing with him, obviously, is can he do it on a consistent basis, for 16, 17, whatever weeks? That is, for me, the million dollar question. I think sometimes you get guys like him, the more athletic quarterbacks, who can develop bad habits because they can do so many things athletically that they can get away with it.
“So studying the game, learning how to process information, all of those things aren’t as on the forefront as it would be for a pocket passer that stands tall in the pocket. The guy does things that are just rare, but at the same time, the studying, the processing of information, that’s what makes you great and consistent in this league at that position.”
Keim on the defense being underfunded, and if Ossenfort is on a budget (presumably set by owner Michael Bidwill): “He’s certainly on a budget. I think we all know football well enough to know that if you have to manufacture pressure, you’re going to get caught. They don’t have guys on the edge that can get pressure naturally with a four-man front. So when they do have to bring it, it’s just a matter of time (before they get burned). You get the big lead, and then you give up that big lead because of your inability to consistently pressure the quarterback. He sits back there all day, and if it’s a guy like Josh Allen, who is a tremendous talent, it’s going to catch up to you eventually.
“That, to me, is probably the most concerning thing, is that we (the Cardinals) weren’t able to put our foot on their throat when we had them down. So, again, underfunded, under-talented.”
Keim on Marvin Harrison Jr.’s debut: “I think the guy is a tremendous prospect, and obviously is going to be a great player for many years, in my opinion. But when I watched the tape, I see a guy that looks like a rookie. And those guys are going to have to go through those growing pains. A guy in a new offense, as a rookie, hadn’t had a lot of time with Kyler in the preseason.
“There are a lot of timing things that have to take place. And also, when you have a young man like that who’s thinking a lot, they don’t get to play as fast as they normally play. They’re thinking, going through the motions, they look a little rigid and stiff in their movement because they’re thinking about what the play-call is.”
Keim on Harrison, Jr’s nerves being a factor: “I don’t care how big of a stage you played on at Ohio State. There is going to be jitters. It’s a different speed of the game. Let’s not forget: Larry Fitzgerald was not the best player on the field his rookie year every game.”
Keim on the Jonah Williams injury: “It certainly affected the team, but at the same time, Kelvin Beachum is a true pro. He is certainly good enough to get by, be sort of a patchwork player. … Any time you lose an offensive lineman, and particularly a tackle, those guys are hard to find. Supply and demand is a real issue at that position. That’s why guys are making $20 million at tackle.”
Keim on the eroding skills of Beachum: “Beach is more of a finesse player, a technician. At this point in his career – guys’ skills diminish to a degree. At the same time, everybody’s got injuries and everybody’s got excuses. But excuses don’t matter at the end of the day when you win or lose.”
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Glad the drunk found a place where he can’t hurt an NFL team any longer.
Couldn’t care less what he says about the Cardinals.
Couldn’t care less what he says about the Cardinals.
I've been saying this for years about KM
SK is correct here
If he only would learn to read defenses his game would become so much better and he would be able to find the open receivers
It requires a lot of film study and again it looks like he did the physical come back strong and not the film study part
I'm hoping to see him improve, but he has to show me
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I don't know why fans are so eager to doubt Keim about this. Yes the man is a clown, but he's a clown that spent 4 years in the building with Kyler and spoke to Kliff about him frequently. There was absolutely no advantage to them putting a study clause in his contract unless they had concrete knowledge he wasn't doing the required work.
I feel like this is in the past and Kyler has changed, but he's now behind the curve of where a QB should be in year 6 because he didn't do the previous work.
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is there another NFL team where the former GM has a podcast talking about the current team? I dont think so.
to K9s point --
the NFL is a buddy system, and its shocking that Keim cant get a mid-tier personnel role in some franchise somewhere -- even if its a favor from a friend / former colleague. Jason Licht cant give him a role in TB? Just curious if there is a rep out there that makes him untouchable --
to K9s point --
the NFL is a buddy system, and its shocking that Keim cant get a mid-tier personnel role in some franchise somewhere -- even if its a favor from a friend / former colleague. Jason Licht cant give him a role in TB? Just curious if there is a rep out there that makes him untouchable --
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Can we add STEVE and KEIM to the bad language filter?
What words?
Even Graves was hired by the Jets after his tenure with the Cards
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He really has some nerve talking about the teams talent deficiency that he created.
I for one am not going to be a listener.
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He was on the Herd. Supposedly some good news is happening for Steve soon.
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Makes sense. Keim is the Mike Jurecki of former NFL GM’s and Jurecki is the Steve Keim of former journalists.
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So, again, underfunded, under-talented
Keim has a lot of blame when it comes to the "under-talented" part. If his drafting hadn't been so terrible we might have a better defense.
Keim has a lot of blame when it comes to the "under-talented" part. If his drafting hadn't been so terrible we might have a better defense.
This is the best non-profanity laced quip I’ve ever heard.
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