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[PJ1]

Carson hurt too often.

 

[Stout]

I'd actually be ok with AB. As long as we re-sign Reddick, draft interior OL and CB in the first 3 rounds and AB. I think we make the playoffs with that team.

Yeah, let's throw that headcase into a locker room devoid of leadership. Adding Watt isn't nearly enough. If you thought we lacked discipline and didn't gel as a team well enough last year, go ahead and throw AB into the mix. Crash and burn.

 

[PACardsFan]

Yeah, let's throw that headcase into a locker room devoid of leadership. Adding Watt isn't nearly enough. If you thought we lacked discipline and didn't gel as a team well enough last year, go ahead and throw AB into the mix. Crash and burn.

Stout, can you make yourself more clear. Not sure how you really feel about AB It wouldn't take long before I could picture Watt having AB by the throat up against a locker. It could be like the locker room fight the Cardinals had at halftime of a Monday Night game against the Cowboys back in the Buddy Ryan era. What a debacle that was. As badly as we need receivers (plural), AB could be a death knell. And like Stout says, we DO NOT have the leadership to offset that. Hell, if that ever happened, I could see KK sitting in the corner watching it with a bag of popcorn.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Stout, can you make yourself more clear. Not sure how you really feel about AB It wouldn't take long before I could picture Watt having AB by the throat up against a locker. It could be like the locker room fight the Cardinals had at halftime of a Monday Night game against the Cowboys back in the Buddy Ryan era. What a debacle that was. As badly as we need receivers (plural), AB could be a death knell. And like Stout says, we DO NOT have the leadership to offset that. Hell, if that ever happened, I could see KK sitting in the corner watching it with a bag of popcorn.

AB had brady and still wasnt that good last ear so beyond the fact that he is a knucklehead he just isnt that good either. Go got marvin jones

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Stout, can you make yourself more clear. Not sure how you really feel about AB It wouldn't take long before I could picture Watt having AB by the throat up against a locker. It could be like the locker room fight the Cardinals had at halftime of a Monday Night game against the Cowboys back in the Buddy Ryan era. What a debacle that was. As badly as we need receivers (plural), AB could be a death knell. And like Stout says, we DO NOT have the leadership to offset that. Hell, if that ever happened, I could see KK sitting in the corner watching it with a bag of popcorn.

AB had brady and still wasnt that good last ear so beyond the fact that he is a knucklehead he just isnt that good either. Go got marvin jones

 

[Krangodnzr]

Carson wouldn't be a terrible compliment to Edmonds. They definitely are missing someone who can make the first man miss and break tackles. One reason I feel that Javonte Williams will be a real option for them if he is available in round 2.

We've seen a number of teams over the years try and NOT use at least a 2nd or 3rd on their lead back and then struggle.

What do you think of like a 3/$15 mill deal with 7 guaranteed for Carson?

That wouldn't be too much and I think Carson falls into that tier because of his injury history.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Yeah, let's throw that headcase into a locker room devoid of leadership. Adding Watt isn't nearly enough. If you thought we lacked discipline and didn't gel as a team well enough last year, go ahead and throw AB into the mix. Crash and burn.

I would disagree with the lack of leadership. Fitz, Hop, Budda, DJ, PP, (if he comes back) Jones are all leaders, not to mention Watt.

We have leaders; either they aren't the type you want, or you are trying to use that as an excuse not to sign AB.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I would disagree with the lack of leadership. Fitz, Hop, Budda, DJ, PP, (if he comes back) Jones are all leaders, not to mention Watt.

We have leaders; either they aren't the type you want, or you are trying to use that as an excuse not to sign AB.

Other than Fitz, please describe to me the evidence of leadership we have for the others. Just being a good football player doesn’t make you a leader.

 

[Totally_Red]

I would disagree with the lack of leadership. Fitz, Hop, Budda, DJ, PP, (if he comes back) Jones are all leaders, not to mention Watt.

We have leaders; either they aren't the type you want, or you are trying to use that as an excuse not to sign AB.

J.J. is a "Ray Lewis" type of alpha leader. None of those other guys are at that level of leadership IMO. Brady obviously is.

I saw one commentator who said J.J. could bring the defensive equivalent of what Brady brought to the Bucs. Hope he stays healthy.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Other than Fitz, please describe to me the evidence of leadership we have for the others. Just being a good football player doesn’t make you a leader.

Do I really need to discuss Fitz or Hop?
Everyone on the defense calls Budda the heart and soul of the defense, does that not make him a leader?
Bring 2nd on the DPOY voting and being an all out superstar doesn't make Jones a leader? He is more than 'just a good football player.'
There are reports that DJ has come in and been more vocal on the offensive line.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

J.J. is a "Ray Lewis" type of alpha leader. None of those other guys are at that level of leadership IMO. Brady obviously is.

I saw one commentator who said J.J. could bring the defensive equivalent of what Brady brought to the Bucs. Hope he stays healthy.

Give me a break. You don't have to be outspoken and flamboyant to be a leader. Nobody wouldn't call Peyton a leader and he was as soft spoken as they come...

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Stout]

I would disagree with the lack of leadership. Fitz, Hop, Budda, DJ, PP, (if he comes back) Jones are all leaders, not to mention Watt.

We have leaders; either they aren't the type you want, or you are trying to use that as an excuse not to sign AB.

Bingo. Of that list, Fitz is the only one that stands out as a big leader, and he might be gone. Watt will help, of course, but we're still lacking in the whole culture of leadership. KK certainly ain't providing it, and KM seems more of an introvert type (not a knock on him or the kind of person he is).

Plus, I don't need an excuse to not want AB. He's absolutely poisonous.

 

[Shane]

I would disagree with the lack of leadership. Fitz, Hop, Budda, DJ, PP, (if he comes back) Jones are all leaders, not to mention Watt.

We have leaders; either they aren't the type you want, or you are trying to use that as an excuse not to sign AB.

Bad mouthing your organization on three different occasions in the media and half assing it on the field at times is not leader ship...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Bad mouthing your organization on three different occasions in the media and half assing it on the field at times is not leader ship...

Take PP out as he probably won't be on the team anymore. My point still stands.

A little ironic about the badmouthing leadership stance and leadership, considering your Boldin allegiance...

 

[BigRedRage]

I do not believe for a millisecond that Bidwill would sign a guy like Antonio Brown.

 

[Stout]

I do not believe for a millisecond that Bidwill would sign a guy like Antonio Brown.

Let's hope neither he nor Keim are that idiotic.

 

[FB94]

Bad mouthing your organization on three different occasions in the media and half assing it on the field at times is not leader ship...

I don’t think of PP as leader at all on this team, more of a me player in my eyes

 

[BullheadCardFan]

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[Chris_Sanders]

Antonio Brown is pure human trash. I cannot imagine in a million years that he would let that scumbag wear our helmet.

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[Shane]

I don’t think of PP as leader at all on this team, more of a me player in my eyes

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[dreamcastrocks]

Bingo. Of that list, Fitz is the only one that stands out as a big leader, and he might be gone. Watt will help, of course, but we're still lacking in the whole culture of leadership. KK certainly ain't providing it, and KM seems more of an introvert type (not a knock on him or the kind of person he is).

Plus, I don't need an excuse to not want AB. He's absolutely poisonous.

Bingo. We have leaders, you just want different ones. I guess we came to some sort of agreement...

I absolutely agree that you don't need an excuse to not want AB, most people don't. Just unclear why you tried to throw one in that doesn't really jive.

 

[Shane]

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[Stout]

Bingo. We have leaders, you just want different ones. I guess we came to some sort of agreement...

I absolutely agree that you don't need an excuse to not want AB, most people don't. Just unclear why you tried to throw one in that doesn't really jive.

Bad leaders are still leaders. If you think our cup runneth over with good leaders, you're as savvy as Keim.

 

[PJ1]

Bad leaders are still leaders. If you think our cup runneth over with good leaders, you're as savvy as Keim.

True. Cite last two games of the season.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

Still amazes me that after so many years of Bidwill ownership, we still can't spell the family name correctly. Thanks for stepping up and making the correction.

I hear ya! It's bothered me ever since the days of Antron Rolle!